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Fleet Armada - Possible issue

floppytechiefloppytechie Member Posts: 136 Arc User
After the Japori incident and the Mirror Invasion debacle, i have learnt not to stray too far of the cryptic's beaten path. I really don't want to get called a cheater again, OR have my stuff taken away from me, so im making this thread, just to cover all bases.

Specifically, my concern is at the bonuses granted. Consider this scenario :

"Fleet Alpha gets fealty from fleets Beta1,Beta2 and Beta 3.They in turn get fealty from Gamma 1 and so on. Now, a new player(or heck, even a new alt) is created, and this alt (ill call him toon1) joins Fleet Alpha. With the exp bonuses granted by the armada system, he fast tracks to lvl 60.Then,
with permission from Alpha Fleet command, he leaves Alpha and joins one of the 9 gamma fleets. Now, he grinds dilithium and buys fleet gear at super cheap rates(taking advantage of the dilithium discount). After fully kitting out, he goes back to Alpha. "

Basically my concern is, are we allowed to take the best of both worlds? Or will we be nerfsmacked and called cheaters again? >_<
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  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    i think the dil discount is in regards to dilithium inputs on the fleet projects.
  • lsegnlsegn Member Posts: 594 Arc User
    What he said ^^
  • bloodyrizbloodyriz Member Posts: 1,756 Arc User
    And the XP bonuses will be holding XP.
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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    And the XP bonuses will be holding XP.

    That's not what I've been hearing. I've heard it's XP skill bonus. Why would Alpha fleet need more Holding XP it's probably fully done. That would be stupid for Gamma's too. Less Dilithium but you have to do more of them cause of less XP. Might as well put the small Gamma fleet as Alpha and pump the Dil into them and get to Tier V fast.

    I'm pretty sure it's skill point XP.

    As far as leaving a fleet and coming back you can already do that. We have many members that leave our fleet temporarily to donate to our smaller allied fleets and then come back.
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    Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
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  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    And the XP bonuses will be holding XP.

    That's not what I've been hearing. I've heard it's XP skill bonus. Why would Alpha fleet need more Holding XP it's probably fully done. That would be stupid for Gamma's too. Less Dilithium but you have to do more of them cause of less XP. Might as well put the small Gamma fleet as Alpha and pump the Dil into them and get to Tier V fast.

    I'm pretty sure it's skill point XP.

    As far as leaving a fleet and coming back you can already do that. We have many members that leave our fleet temporarily to donate to our smaller allied fleets and then come back.


    correct the bonuses are only Skill Point boost and Dilithium Discounts. However these are only achived when an Armada reaches a level of 50...

    Here is how the Armada UI looks: KcWHRbo.jpg
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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    And the XP bonuses will be holding XP.

    That's not what I've been hearing. I've heard it's XP skill bonus. Why would Alpha fleet need more Holding XP it's probably fully done. That would be stupid for Gamma's too. Less Dilithium but you have to do more of them cause of less XP. Might as well put the small Gamma fleet as Alpha and pump the Dil into them and get to Tier V fast.

    I'm pretty sure it's skill point XP.

    As far as leaving a fleet and coming back you can already do that. We have many members that leave our fleet temporarily to donate to our smaller allied fleets and then come back.


    correct the bonuses are only Skill Point boost and Dilithium Discounts. However these are only achived when an Armada reaches a level of 50...

    Here is how the Armada UI looks: KcWHRbo.jpg

    Thank you for this. Do you know what the boost and discount is at 50? Also, is there a multiplier or any increase for more level points? The way I see it 13 fleets x 20 each right now max would be 260 armada level without the new fleet holding.

    Fleet Admiral Thomas Winston James a.k.a. The Grayfox
    Fleet Leader of:
    Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
    Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
    Liberty Guardians
    U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class

    Game Handle: Grayfox@GrayfoxJames
    Website: https://www.libertytaskforce.com
    Armada (STOFA Member Fleet): https://www.libertytaskforce.com/stofa
    Discord: https://discord.gg/bGp9N7z
    Twitter: STOFA@LTFGrayfox
    Email: CSDynamix@Hotmail.com
  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2015
    bloodyriz wrote: »
    And the XP bonuses will be holding XP.

    That's not what I've been hearing. I've heard it's XP skill bonus. Why would Alpha fleet need more Holding XP it's probably fully done. That would be stupid for Gamma's too. Less Dilithium but you have to do more of them cause of less XP. Might as well put the small Gamma fleet as Alpha and pump the Dil into them and get to Tier V fast.

    I'm pretty sure it's skill point XP.

    As far as leaving a fleet and coming back you can already do that. We have many members that leave our fleet temporarily to donate to our smaller allied fleets and then come back.


    correct the bonuses are only Skill Point boost and Dilithium Discounts. However these are only achived when an Armada reaches a level of 50...

    Here is how the Armada UI looks: KcWHRbo.jpg

    Thank you for this. Do you know what the boost and discount is at 50? Also, is there a multiplier or any increase for more level points? The way I see it 13 fleets x 20 each right now max would be 260 armada level without the new fleet holding.

    I am not aware of the discounts yet as we have not reached level 50. However I do know that bort mention that the boost/bonuses doubles?! Every 50 levels... I'll edit this post once I have the link. Few mins.


    Here we go:
    entnx01 wrote: »
    I'm currently not seeing any bonuses for the Armada I'm in. Also, only one Beta fleet is properly showing its Fleet Level as 11. I know my fleet is also Level 11, and if the Armada's contributions screen is showing properly, the Alpha fleet's level is also 11.

    Right now, the first Armada Bonus kicks in at Armada Level 50, then increases for every 50 levels after that.

    These might not be the final values. Just what was included on the first pass.

    I was also told that the Armada bonuses were causing a builder error in one of our builds and had to be turned off until they could be debugged (which already happened). I don't know if they are actually active on the current Tribble build or not.
    http://perfectworld.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/12588193/#Comment_12588193
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    correct the bonuses are only Skill Point boost and Dilithium Discounts. However these are only achived when an Armada reaches a level of 50...

    And, how does an Armada get to level 50????

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  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »
    correct the bonuses are only Skill Point boost and Dilithium Discounts. However these are only achived when an Armada reaches a level of 50...

    And, how does an Armada get to level 50????

    (I can tell this is not gonna be my cup of tea)

    I believe it's by adding all the fleet levels together. A maxed out fleet with everything done is level 20 already, 3 of those and you're at 60.
    Fleet Admiral Thomas Winston James a.k.a. The Grayfox
    Fleet Leader of:
    Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
    Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
    Liberty Guardians
    U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class

    Game Handle: Grayfox@GrayfoxJames
    Website: https://www.libertytaskforce.com
    Armada (STOFA Member Fleet): https://www.libertytaskforce.com/stofa
    Discord: https://discord.gg/bGp9N7z
    Twitter: STOFA@LTFGrayfox
    Email: CSDynamix@Hotmail.com
  • comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    What Grayfox said! :)
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  • where2r1where2r1 Member Posts: 6,054 Arc User
    I believe it's by adding all the fleet levels together. A maxed out fleet with everything done is level 20 already, 3 of those and you're at 60.

    So, no one gets any bonus XP or any DL discounts unless the entire Armada is at a certain level.
    And the BEST "step" of Bonuses or Discounts stays locked....until what?
    Every Fleet in the Armada is close to done?

    What is the point in THAT? The fleets need the discounts to FINISH the projects...NOT AFTER!!!

    And what fleet would want stay at the "Gamma" tier once their projects are completed??? What would be the incentive? Finished....don't need the DL discounts on projects.

    OH...I just got the big picture. OK.... Gotcha.
    Yeah, maybe all the fleets will dissolve into the big giant Alpha fleet...but I doubt it.

    (l live for conspiracy theories..... Just leave me alone in my little fleet, over here....)
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,451 Arc User
    The bonuses increase every 50 fleet levels.
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  • zobovorzobovor Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    where2r1 wrote: »

    So, no one gets any bonus XP or any DL discounts unless the entire Armada is at a certain level.
    And the BEST "step" of Bonuses or Discounts stays locked....until what?
    Every Fleet in the Armada is close to done?

    What is the point in THAT? The fleets need the discounts to FINISH the projects...NOT AFTER!!!

    Dil sink ?

    Revival of the Fleet system ?

    Borrowing a system that is close to (from what I could understand) a new system that is being introduced to NW ?
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