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zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
Any PWE Vanilla forum thread. :o

I just tried doing a search for forum info on a thread title I know well. It could not find it. ...until I added the word vanilla to the search. Then it was right on top.

Does anyone know how long it takes for Search Engines to catch back up with a big change to page like we just had? Is it weeks, months, years?

Edit - spelling error. always a spelling error.
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    tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2015
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
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    iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
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    Definitely.
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    Please try it on some older thread titles. Pre-move header titles.

    Hey, if I'm wrong, then tell me what you did and I'll try that?
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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I found this...
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    Why you steal Groucho's mustache??
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    watch out, I think he wants it back
    B)
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    belidosbelidos Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »

    That's directly searching for the site by URL, the OP is talking about keyword searches.

    OP it probably just hasn't been long enough for Google to index and propagate keyword searches on the forum, it's not our fault it's googles.
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    I found this...
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    Why you steal Groucho's mustache??
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    B)

    I found that, too. I think the guys has a stapler fetish. LOL

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    daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    daveyny wrote: »
    I found this...
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    Why you steal Groucho's mustache??
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    B)

    I found that, too. I think the guys has a stapler fetish. LOL

    That's just to keep his tie secure.
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    dgdolphdgdolph Member Posts: 592 Arc User
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    Working fine for me
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    ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,571 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    If you find posts in a Google search from the old forums, when you click to go to it you are just brought to the STO Vanilla overall Forum Index.
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    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
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    dgdolphdgdolph Member Posts: 592 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    If you find posts in the search from the old forums, when you click to go to it you are just brought to the STO Vanilla Forum Index.

    Depends. It's just a matter of time until googles bots have tracked all pages. Some already work fine - even old ones.

    If you google for "I hate geko sto" you'll find alot old and working links.

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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User

    the Taco has trolled .... tiger-3.gif

    Yeah. He got me. 'sokay. I... :: confused look :: ...had it - comin' to me? :/

    ;)


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    flyingfinnflyingfinn Member Posts: 6,694 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Why G00GLE? We have working Search in the Forums. Just like before the Migration.
    Right?
    That's why it's so easy to find old Bookmarks.
    Even with G00GLE.
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    Obligatory Chico Marx pic.
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    Hey. He was lonel with out his other brothers. :(
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    frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    I posted this in another thread.
    frtoaster wrote: »
    To search a specific website with Google, use the "site" operator; for example,

    site:perfectworld.vanillaforums.com Emei Arena Guide LaVidaLoca

    A few caveats:

    1. If Google hasn't indexed the page that you're looking for, then it won't show up in the search results. So if the content is new, it may not show up. For example, currently, this thread doesn't show up if I search for

    site:perfectworld.vanillaforums.com New Forum Survival Tips

    But I expect that will change in a few days.

    2. Google thinks these forums live on perfectworld.vanillaforums.com, not arcgames.com. The following search will come up empty:

    site:arcgames.com Emei Arena Guide LaVidaLoca

    Does anyone know how long it takes for Search Engines to catch back up with a big change to page like we just had? Is it weeks, months, years?
    Honestly, I couldn't say. It might be a while before Google finds many of the older threads. It depends on how deep Google has to dig to find the links and how important it thinks your site is.

    ltminns wrote: »
    If you find posts in a Google search from the old forums, when you click to go to it you are just brought to the STO Vanilla overall Forum Index.
    That's because PWE is redirecting all the old links to

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/categories/startrekonline

    and the last I heard, they don't intend to fix it. It would have been easy to redirect the old links properly if they had planned on doing it before the forum migration, but I guess they don't care that the old links are broken.
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    kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    Google finds everything, eventually.
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    Google finds everything, eventually.

    Yup. Google finds everything.

    epilepsy.com/learn/triggers-seizures/photosensitivity-and-seizures

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    tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    belidos wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »

    That's directly searching for the site by URL, the OP is talking about keyword searches.

    OP it probably just hasn't been long enough for Google to index and propagate keyword searches on the forum, it's not our fault it's googles.

    Check my "ORLY" above. That isn't searching the site.

    But I guess I don't understand what you'd want to search for on the site, if you're not searching the site? (huh?)

    I mean, if you are intentionally searching for an old thread ON THIS SITE, why would you not search ON THIS SITE?
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    tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    the Taco has trolled .... tiger-3.gif

    How did I troll?! I just did a search, and posted the results.
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    tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    Also, what? No Karl?

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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    tacofangs wrote: »
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    How did I troll?! I just did a search, and posted the results.



    honestly.... I don't know... but it was funny tiger-2.gif
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    berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    belidos wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »

    That's directly searching for the site by URL, the OP is talking about keyword searches.

    OP it probably just hasn't been long enough for Google to index and propagate keyword searches on the forum, it's not our fault it's googles.

    Check my "ORLY" above. That isn't searching the site.

    But I guess I don't understand what you'd want to search for on the site, if you're not searching the site? (huh?)

    I mean, if you are intentionally searching for an old thread ON THIS SITE, why would you not search ON THIS SITE?

    As far as I can tell, the search function on this site is sadly lacking.

    Also, thanks for showcasing another "feature" that bothers people here. It was not apparent that your ORLY was a link at all. Links should look different, but don't.
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    comrademococomrademoco Member Posts: 1,694 Bug Hunter
    In a more serious note. I'm pretty sure that as time passes google is going to be able to recognize the new forums and give links to it, instead of the old ones...
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    belidos wrote: »
    tacofangs wrote: »

    That's directly searching for the site by URL, the OP is talking about keyword searches.

    OP it probably just hasn't been long enough for Google to index and propagate keyword searches on the forum, it's not our fault it's googles.

    Check my "ORLY" above. That isn't searching the site.

    But I guess I don't understand what you'd want to search for on the site, if you're not searching the site? (huh?)

    I mean, if you are intentionally searching for an old thread ON THIS SITE, why would you not search ON THIS SITE?

    Well, in my experience, with forums, like our old one, searching ON the forums did not give the results I was hoping for, but somehow Google was always able to find that forgotten thread what I was looking for. A thread that held that one post by that one guy who knew how to get a specific mission done because there was a tiny glitch now and doing this one "trick" made it possible to complete. Or other stuff like that.

    IOW - Old habits die hard. :: shrugs ::

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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Also, what? No Karl?

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    Now Zeppo wants to say hello.
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    zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,777 Arc User
    Oh, and here are the Marx Sisters.
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    That's Coko, on the left, and Drinko on the right.

    Drinko is a mime who staggers around a lot, then falls down, while Coko is the hyped up, fast talker who's comedy routines consist of joke after joke lacking coherence or punchlines, but routine always ends with her screaming at the top of her lungs, "IT'S TOO HOT IN HERE!" right before she runs from the room while tearing off her clothes, searching for a pool, or a fountain or a Koi pond to jump into.

    Hilarious stuff, really. They were both far ahead of their time.
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    tempus64tempus64 Member Posts: 806 Arc User
    Any PWE Vanilla forum thread. :o

    I just tried doing a search for forum info on a thread title I know well. It could not find it. ...until I added the word vanilla to the search. Then it was right on top.

    Does anyone know how long it takes for Search Engines to catch back up with a big change to page like we just had? Is it weeks, months, years?

    Edit - spelling error. always a spelling error.

    I saw a page from the new forum listed when I did a search yesterday. Google has indexed some of it already, but it will take a bit longer for it to start showing up on the first page for most things. Could use the "site:" search parameter though to get to what they've indexed.

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    kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Member Posts: 1,606 Arc User
    Google finds everything, eventually.

    Yup. Google finds everything.

    epilepsy.com/learn/triggers-seizures/photosensitivity-and-seizures

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    protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    tacofangs wrote: »
    Also, what? No Karl?

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    Well, if you're going to have Marx, you will also need Lenin ...

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    ... or at least Lennon.
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