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blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
I really like the idea of the chronoton rifle, but can you do something about that graphic effect, it's almost the same as the Synchronic Proton Distortion Prototype Assault Rifle? I was really hoping for something like the dual chronoton beam arrays.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    I think a lot of people were expecting the rainbow beam rather than the distorting blue beam.
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    I think this is a guarantee of Chroniton weapons hitting the next (probably Krenim) lock box.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    You guys mean Antiproton, right? Because that's what these things still are regardless of the fancy name :D
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    I wish the model wouldn't look so generic...
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    I really like the idea of the chronoton rifle, but can you do something about that graphic effect, it's almost the same as the Synchronic Proton Distortion Prototype Assault Rifle? I was really hoping for something like the dual chronoton beam arrays.

    I suspect there is a very good reason why it looks like that weapon in particular.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    I suspect there is a very good reason why it looks like that weapon in particular.

    Huh? My chroniton rifle looks like a default fed mk xi phaser rifle without the holo effects. It looks nothing like the ghostbusters proton pack?

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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    blitzy4 wrote: »
    I really like the idea of the chronoton rifle, but can you do something about that graphic effect, it's almost the same as the Synchronic Proton Distortion Prototype Assault Rifle? I was really hoping for something like the dual chronoton beam arrays.

    I suspect there is a very good reason why it looks like that weapon in particular.
    angrytarg wrote: »
    artan42 wrote: »
    I suspect there is a very good reason why it looks like that weapon in particular.

    Huh? My chroniton rifle looks like a default fed mk xi phaser rifle without the holo effects. It looks nothing like the ghostbusters proton pack?

    The firing effect not the shell.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

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    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    The firing effect not the shell.

    Ah, I got that wrong. Alright :)
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    Even the firing effect is only barely similar to the Proton Rifle.
    The Proton Rifle's basic shot is an energy ball, while the Chroniton Rifle fires a beam.
    I mean, honestly? The only thing they have in common is they happen to both fire somewhat wavy blue beams. But the Proton Rifle has a much more corrugated and radical looking secondary fire, as well as red lightning-like effects mixed into the stream FX; the Chroniton Rifle just fires more wavy blue madness beams.
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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    Yes the firing effect, I'm okay with the shell.
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  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    You guys mean Antiproton, right? Because that's what these things still are regardless of the fancy name :D

    Yes, it is antiproton, which is unfortunate. It would be nice if it were an actual chroniton beam, and the FX for that are in game (check out the Lobi Consortium).
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Is it any good?
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Is it any good?

    Can't say yet; I just got mine last night, upgraded it to Mk XIV, and then went back to Risa. I'll give it a test when I get the quality improved as well (epic would be the goal, of course). However, one of my fleetmates was rather unimpressed with its performance at Mk XII. But since my two mains and one of my DeltAlts have time travel as part of their stories, I had to have it just as part of my schtick.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    I hate how they copy/pasted the phaser weapon visuals for it. Seriously Cryptic, if you need to copy/paste visuals, don't copy/paste the worst visuals. :/
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  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    I actually like the rifle though it does need to be upgraded. I upgraded mine to Ultra Rare; I might consider going for the Epic one. Epic seems to deal out some interesting power.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    velqua wrote: »
    I actually like the rifle though it does need to be upgraded. I upgraded mine to Ultra Rare; I might consider going for the Epic one. Epic seems to deal out some interesting power.


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    Looks like an increase of 2.2 damage per shot and 2% crit chance for a cost of about 900,000 dilithium to me. Not sure I consider that worthwhile.

    From the Reddit here:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/3acyu9/update_time_in_a_bottle_rewards_at_epic/
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    I will get the rifle when I do the FE. Just love collecting a new ground weapon.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    I hate how they copy/pasted the phaser weapon visuals for it. Seriously Cryptic, if you need to copy/paste visuals, don't copy/paste the worst visuals. :/

    Its actually better looking than the even mark level Phaser stuff that has the holobits on it.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    protogoth wrote: »
    You guys mean Antiproton, right? Because that's what these things still are regardless of the fancy name :D

    Yes, it is antiproton, which is unfortunate. It would be nice if it were an actual chroniton beam, and the FX for that are in game (check out the Lobi Consortium).

    The Lobi store weapon is also Antiproton. Chroniton beams in STO are represented by Antiproton beams with Chroniton procs to reduce the need to stock additional damage resists/damage boosters.

    This weapon has a different visual from the Lobi space weapon and instead looks like the Chroniton beams used by the Krenim on the show. But, regardless, it is likely that any Chroniton beams -- like the original Lobi ones -- will be Antiproton with a completely different proc.
  • torgaddon101torgaddon101 Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    I like it, combined with sniper seems to do alot off flanking damage..

    so power creep again..

    time will tell.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    I just tried it today, it's a pretty effective weapon. I think it's a nice reward for a featured mission, I'll probably get a few for my bridge officers. :)
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  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    What i think about the new SBR is that it should get a skin change, maybe make the rifle look like the anti-replicator device from Stargate SG-1, or something not really rifle like.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    I think the 29th century weapons deserve a new take.

    Not the existing ones but if they're going to reuse weapon models, maybe AP "Chroniton" variants of the Relativity rifle and pistol.

    My take would be to treat the pistol as a sniper rifle, mechanically, and give the rifle some shield pen. In the future, I'd like to think a pistol's range can increase and it would allow the future pistols to hold up unusually well for a pistol without being OP. Rainbow beams for the Relativity Chroniton beams, of course.
  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,454 Arc User
    > @kayajay said:
    > I think this is a guarantee of Chroniton weapons hitting the next (probably Krenim) lock box.

    Disruptor, actually.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    edited June 2015
    Here is a Chroniton weapon from STV - Year of bleepinHell.
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    What color would you say it is? Is that glow yellow? Gold?
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    Sig? What sig? I don't see any sig.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    Well... that is a Chroniton Torpedo. But as we know, when most torpedoes are flying, they have some kind of energy shroud around them, like Photon Torpedoes. Your pic shows the Chroniton Torpedo casing, which itself seems to be glowing, but that could be from damage or something else.

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    Seen here is a Photon Torpedo launched from the rear of a Galaxy class.

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    This is a Chroniton Torpedo in flight.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    So basically, the color of Chroniton energy was at Michael Okuda;'s whim.
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  • oldkhemaraaoldkhemaraa Member Posts: 1,039 Arc User
    The rifle seems to be particularly weffective agains heralds and such.. some contrusts will freeze in place for a while..think of it as a "crowd Control" wepon. I don't seem to generate as much aggro with it which is fine with me..My mains a sci, Thats what TACs and ENG away team members are for.. My job is to make them more effective at thier jobs, and mess up the important targets and make them more vulnerable!

    Its effect on Iconian and Iconian 1st tier servitors like the heralds seems to be a hidden thing.

    What I do know is I went and did a replay of one of the FE's today, and using the silly thing was the first time I didn't loose a single away team member, nor die a single time. Cronitons mess with 'em apparently, but its not obvious!
    Against Vaadwar, and anything else its a Split beam AP weap.. nothing overly spectacular.

    As for it's looks... Hey you got it from NOG!... Come on guys,, It's a fed made weapon modified my a very mechanically talented Ferengi who learned his trade at the feet of his father Rom, and Chief O'Brian!
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