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Will the Developers ever make the Red Matter Capacitor code an account-wide unlock?

sftim725sftim725 Member Posts: 13 Arc User
A long while back in a live stream, the Developers gave away the RMC code but neglected to tell everyone it was a one-time code. I am among a mass of loyal STO gamers who inadvertently used the code on an alternate character and not my main one. Playing STO is my hobby of choice. Some people play sports or paint. I game. I am not exaggerating when I say I have poured thousands of dollars into STO and I consider it money well spent. I and many others would greatly appreciate it if the developers would fix the code to make it an account-wide unlock, just like the Holo-Leeta DOFF.The RMC is the only device I am missing for my main captain.Trendy, Smirk, Devs, please hear my prayers and grant us a fix. Anyone who feels the same as I do, please second this post.
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  • hipachilleshipachilles Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    During the livestream in Sept 2014 when it was given away, Smirk said it was account unlock. As I am sure you know (since you have it for an alt), that was incorrect. Despite the error when giving out the code, they refused to open it up to account unlocks. If they didn't open it up then (when the error occurred), I really doubt they will open it up now.

    Word is there was more than a little irritation that so many people redeemed the code who were not on the livestream.

    On unrelated notes:
    • Smirk is no longer a community manager
    • They no longer give out mass redemption codes
    • There aren't many (any?) streams anymore
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    It was meant to be an account unlock. But folks spammed the code all over the place for folks not watching the stream, so they changed it to a character unlock. The sheer number of folks that started using the code went well beyond the number they had planned to give away...so that was that. Players ruined it...like they do so many things...meh.
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Players ruining these type of codes hit Neverwinter bad during the last big update where the Players were selling their codes on the AD market and making new accounts to do this. If you go to the forums, it was the Devs' fault because they should have foreseen this.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,557 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Buy a lifetime subscription. I have the rmc on all of my characters
  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    indyshark wrote: »
    Buy a lifetime subscription. I have the rmc on all of my characters

    Newsflash -
    RMC doesn't come with lifetime sub ;)
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  • chastity1337chastity1337 Member Posts: 1,608 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    sftim725 wrote: »
    A long while back in a live stream, the Developers gave away the RMC code but neglected to tell everyone it was a one-time code. I am among a mass of loyal STO gamers who inadvertently used the code on an alternate character and not my main one. Playing STO is my hobby of choice. Some people play sports or paint. I game. I am not exaggerating when I say I have poured thousands of dollars into STO and I consider it money well spent. I and many others would greatly appreciate it if the developers would fix the code to make it an account-wide unlock, just like the Holo-Leeta DOFF.The RMC is the only device I am missing for my main captain.Trendy, Smirk, Devs, please hear my prayers and grant us a fix. Anyone who feels the same as I do, please second this post.

    Those of us who paid for the Collector's Edition got the RMC for the whole account. Why should random slackers get it for free?

    So I oppose this idea.
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Those of us who paid for the Collector's Edition got the RMC for the whole account. Why should random slackers get it for free?

    So I oppose this idea.

    Seconded.

    Oh wait... It's not worth a ****, never mind. Seriously people it's recharge time is WAY to slow to make it useful.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    samt1996 wrote: »
    Seconded.

    Oh wait... It's not worth a ****, never mind. Seriously people it's recharge time is WAY to slow to make it useful.

    Would the battery cd-reduction doff work on it? (I don't have a RMC, so all y'all should count yourselves lucky to begin with).
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Those of us who paid for the Collector's Edition got the RMC for the whole account. Why should random slackers get it for free?

    So I oppose this idea.

    hah! that same arguement was used in the past for a number of items that were restricted, they have since been unrestricted. like buying lts access gets you all the 1k day rewards, all the bells and whistles.

    consider as well that a lot of players come to this game new and only a hadful of the "old guard" are still around. what would it serve to keep them on a perch with such an advantage when everyone should have ait and the RMC would most certainly be a best seller by itself.
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  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    deokkent wrote: »
    As far as I can tell, no it does not. 3 min cool down. But it's possible that I'm wrong, cool down animations are very strange. Someone told me once that seconds are rounded up (never rounded down). So, if 30 seconds are removed from the cool down, I can never tell without actually timing it. Sigh, yeah...

    The purple battery cd-reduction doff would shave off 50% of the cd; so you'd probably notice it when it got to be 90 secs only now. :) Still a long time, I reckon; but still faster than something comparable, like EPS Power Transfer (Engineers only).
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  • samt1996samt1996 Member Posts: 2,856 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Would the battery cd-reduction doff work on it? (I don't have a RMC, so all y'all should count yourselves lucky to begin with).

    If you spec into starship batteries and use two extremely expensive duty officers you can have +30 all subsystems for 30 seconds on a 90 second cool down. I haven't attempted this its just theoretical. That makes it somewhat useful, but between Plasmonic leech and Supremacy I can have 35-40 bonus power to every subsystem.

    Toss in maintenance engineers and two EPX abilities I can keep ALL my subsystems at 100 AND overcap weapons without even trying. That's without even taking player skills into account. So, aside from the complete lack of useful starship devices, on what planet do you actually need this thing? The only time I find it useful is whenever I respawn in STF's.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    samt1996 wrote: »
    If you spec into starship batteries and use two extremely expensive duty officers you can have +30 all subsystems for 30 seconds on a 90 second cool down. I haven't attempted this its just theoretical. That makes it somewhat useful, but between Plasmonic leech and Supremacy I can have 35-40 bonus power to every subsystem.

    Toss in maintenance engineers and two EPX abilities I can keep ALL my subsystems at 100 AND overcap weapons without even trying. That's without even taking player skills into account. So, aside from the complete lack of useful starship devices, on what planet do you actually need this thing? The only time I find it useful is whenever I respawn in STF's.


    I have 5 points in Starship Batteries; that gives me a 17.2 (iirc) secs battery effect duration, enough to bridge the 15 secs gap from the EPS Manifold Efficiency Trait (which is activated upon any EPtX, normally at global for me).

    And, btw, I didn't say I needed a RMC; I was merely wondering whether a battery cd-reduction doff would work on it. Personally, I love my EPS Power Transfer: very useful for coming out of Full Impulse. So, I was thinking that, with the battery cd-reduction doff, non-Engineers might enjoy a similar privilege with the RMC.
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  • m1957flaxm1957flax Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    @op
    No, they are running the "exclusivity" train now. No freebie for the masses anymore.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    m1957flax wrote: »
    @op
    No, they are running the "exclusivity" train now. No freebie for the masses anymore.

    Outside of no longer even having to run an Event once on an alt, that the ship is an account unlock once completed with the main...but other than that! :rolleyes:
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Speaking for only myself as an "Old Guard", I have no objection to seeing any of the special edition or pre-order perks re-released, given away or put on sale in the C-Store.

    New people getting access to that stuff won't negatively impact my game play, and I don't have a fragile ego that will shatter if I'm no longer a unique snowflake with delusions that some digital geegaws makes me superior to those without said geegaws.


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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    I kinda think they should have a "devices" R&D school... then release the RMC as a new recipe that unlocks at Level 15 (at least).

    Or, just throw it in Science school. (Although, I'd love to craft an upgraded frequency remodulator, too.)
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  • aesicaaesica Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Speaking for only myself as an "Old Guard", I have no objection to seeing any of the special edition or pre-order perks re-released, given away or put on sale in the C-Store.

    New people getting access to that stuff won't negatively impact my game play, and I don't have a fragile ego that will shatter if I'm no longer a unique snowflake with delusions that some digital geegaws makes me superior to those without said geegaws.


    Free worthless TRIBBLE for everyone!!! :D
    It's really a shame that more people don't think like this. Special snowflake syndrome is something I'll never fully understand--other than the fact that it spreads throughout the population of any given game, infecting and consuming everything it touches like a creeping fungus.
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  • senatorvreenaksenatorvreenak Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I will never understand the entitlement issues people have these days that keeps infecting every game. :rolleyes:

    It used to be that exclusive was permanently exclusive. You want the unique and special shinies you get them when the opportunity is offered to you or you don't, its plain and simple.
    Sadly MMO developers these days seem to be listening more and more to entitled whiners and no longer honor what "exclusive" actually means.

    In fact one wonders why they even bother with the "exclusive" moniker for anything anymore, seeing as its its so often misleading a big fat lie.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Newsflash -
    RMC doesn't come with lifetime sub ;)

    Yup, you need the collectors edition for the RMC.

    Not many of them left out there....
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2015
    I will never understand the entitlement issues people have these days that keeps infecting every game. :rolleyes:

    It used to be that exclusive was permanently exclusive. You want the unique and special shinies you get them when the opportunity is offered to you or you don't, its plain and simple.
    Sadly MMO developers these days seem to be listening more and more to entitled whiners and no longer honor what "exclusive" actually means.

    In fact one wonders why they even bother with the "exclusive" moniker for anything anymore, seeing as its its so often misleading a big fat lie.

    Well, yeah... but, at the same time, exclusivity can be taken to ridiculous extremes (thus, giving consumers a legit reason to gripe). Case and point: Paramount's handling of the DVD/Blu-ray release of Star Trek Into Darkness spread "exclusive" extras across multiple venues and formats, with no one release having all of the special features. An irritating thing, for sure... and it didn't help when Paramount changed their mind and released the film again in the box set (with the 2009 movie) for anyone to buy, all at once. (They offered some voucher/refund thing, because of all of the outcry... but, that began with having to buy the movie 3 or 4 times.)

    So, should the RMC remain "exclusive"? Meh, I don't know. I have the livestream character-only version... it's nice, but not THAT big of a deal. The fact that "old timers" still have it as an account unlock still differentiates them from the rest... so, no big, IMO.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    It was meant to be an account unlock. But folks spammed the code all over the place for folks not watching the stream, so they changed it to a character unlock. The sheer number of folks that started using the code went well beyond the number they had planned to give away...so that was that. Players ruined it...like they do so many things...meh.

    Just proposing a friendly counter opinion here.. but in that scenario it's still on Cryptic. I mean, how could they possibly not know that the code would be re-distributed and posted on forums and social media? Was this the first time Smirk had ever been on the internet? Anyone could have told them that the code would blow up all over the internet. They should have expected this when they announced it as a free account wide unlock. They should have known that it more then likely would result in a majority of players getting the item. The players didn't ruin anything by trying to help each other out, there was nothing wrong with giving other players the code. Cryptic changed their mind and used this as an excuse.
    Speaking for only myself as an "Old Guard", I have no objection to seeing any of the special edition or pre-order perks re-released, given away or put on sale in the C-Store.

    New people getting access to that stuff won't negatively impact my game play, and I don't have a fragile ego that will shatter if I'm no longer a unique snowflake with delusions that some digital geegaws makes me superior to those without said geegaws.


    Free worthless TRIBBLE for everyone!!! :D

    Great attitude, I share it as well. If I have something 'exclusive' the chances are I have had it for quite a while and have had use of it all this time. If someone else gains access to it now, it doesn't diminish me in any way. If they gave out any of the event items or ships I have acquired over the years, I would be fine with it. I'm not under the impression that me having an item that few other people have somehow makes me special. Guess our egos just aren't as fragile as some. :cool:
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  • vulcancouriervulcancourier Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Being one of many players who remember 'where's sulu?' and experienced 'shaka, when the server fell', I would like to see all these trifles, from the RMC to currency conversion Boffs to the Neodymium Deflector Array become lobi items or summer/winter event rewards to increase participation.
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Its the players fault since the devs hadnt learned their lesson the dozen times they give things away prior to this. I like that line of thinking. Its like leaving the door open and wondering that you are missing a few accessoirs and items out of your flet/house. Yes, thats still not morally justified for the one who did it, but try selling this "argument" to your insurance company ;)
  • narthaisnarthais Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    woodwhity wrote: »
    Its the players fault since the devs hadnt learned their lesson the dozen times they give things away prior to this. I like that line of thinking. Its like leaving the door open and wondering that you are missing a few accessoirs and items out of your flet/house. Yes, thats still not morally justified for the one who did it, but try selling this "argument" to your insurance company ;)

    Just because they should have known better still doesn't remove the blame from the players the spread the code, insurance company may not pay out in your analogy, but the cops can still arrest the thieves.
  • ussdanubeussdanube Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Aernt the Enhanced Plasma Manifold off the Obereth and the Enhanced Induction Coils off the B'Rolth similar to the RMC?, granted not a boost to all powers, i think Induction gets 33% to weapons and engines and the plasma gets 50% to shield, engines and aux for 25-30 seconds.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    narthais wrote: »
    Just because they should have known better still doesn't remove the blame from the players the spread the code, insurance company may not pay out in your analogy, but the cops can still arrest the thieves.

    The analogy itself is faulty because even if the door is open, stealing from someones house is illegal. When the players distributed the code, that didn't break any rules at all. The RMC was a give away that they did once the live stream reached X Number of viewers (I think it was 800) and then they shouted the code to everyone in the live stream several times.

    In the 'front door' analogy you would need to add a sign in the front yard that said 'free stuff' with an arrow pointing into the house. Cryptic would be the home owner that got angry because people took everything instead of the 20 or so items they figured they would take, even though they didn't put any limit on the 'free stuff' policy.

    Cryptic shouted the code to the player base, they should have expected that tons of people would get it. They were giving away a free item, I don't see how anyone can blame STO players that tried to help fellow players by passing the code along. You can't compare them to thieves, they didn't break any rules or steal anything, they took what was freely and willingly given to them.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ussdanube wrote: »
    Aernt the Enhanced Plasma Manifold off the Obereth and the Enhanced Induction Coils off the B'Rolth similar to the RMC?, granted not a boost to all powers, i think Induction gets 33% to weapons and engines and the plasma gets 50% to shield, engines and aux for 25-30 seconds.

    In effect similar (moar power though only 3 subsystems) but they block an console-slot. the RMC doesnt, its a device.
  • kirimuffinkirimuffin Member Posts: 695 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Speaking for only myself as an "Old Guard", I have no objection to seeing any of the special edition or pre-order perks re-released, given away or put on sale in the C-Store.

    New people getting access to that stuff won't negatively impact my game play, and I don't have a fragile ego that will shatter if I'm no longer a unique snowflake with delusions that some digital geegaws makes me superior to those without said geegaws.


    Free worthless TRIBBLE for everyone!!! :D

    Agreed! :D

    Though I wouldn't mind if they gave us this worthless TRIBBLE in a new, slightly-more-useful form, as they did with the craftable TR-116B. This would allow the fragile-ego crowd to still feel like they had something unique and exclusive, while giving the rest of us stuff we could actually use :)
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