Yeah. I'm pretty sure Carl Sagan mentioned it in the original Cosmos. So yeah I knew about it for a long time, but the video kind of makes it seem more real.
If humans don't get our act together and create a real Star Trek like future, we'll all be dead long before anything collides with our galaxy or even our planet.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure Carl Sagan mentioned it in the original Cosmos. So yeah I knew about it for a long time, but the video kind of makes seems more real.
If humans don't get our act together and create a real Star Trek like future, we'll all be dead long before anything collides with our galaxy or even our planet.
well supposedly our sun goes nova within 3 billion year or something so we'd have no choice but to do that anyway lol
Don't forget about the heat death of the universe. When all the energy in the universe is expended and reality consists nothing but free-floating photons.
And yes, the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with us, but there is no guarantee it will actually change anything.
Given the size of both galaxies, it might be similar to water going through a sieve.
Don't forget about the heat death of the universe. When all the energy in the universe is expended and reality consists nothing but free-floating photons.
And yes, the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with us, but there is no guarantee it will actually change anything.
Given the size of both galaxies, it might be similar to water going through a sieve.
Yeah. Also. Um, no. Largely, both galaxies will eventually blend together and settle down nicely, but during the three collision periods, before that settling down into one new cohesive galaxy, some collisions might take place. If any two suns collide and supernova, nearby safe systems with life will, in all likelihood, die from the X-ray burst. Even near misses might be enough to change planetary orbit. If Earht-like, it might change the status enough to kill the current life-form.
But, by then, Humans will have killed off one another or will will have huge solar system sized Dyson-spheres and be able to take a sun and planets with us to escape the collision. OR perhaps we will have turned ourselves into pure energy being, like the Organians, so that we can watch the cosmic light show from the safety of a sub-space realm.
Or... Make up your own story of how the ever adaptable humans escaped the end of the universe, yet again.
Edit - I had to edit this because I felt that I had chosen the wrong words. I've since tempered them.
Yeah. Also. Um, no. Largely, both galaxies will eventually blend together and settle down nicely, but during the three collision periods, before that settling down into one new cohesive galaxy, many collisions will take place. If any two suns collide and supernova, nearby safe systems with life will, in all likelihood, die from the X-ray burst.
If that happens. The immense size of both galaxies and the immense distance of stars means that more than likely they will simply pass through one another. Most of a galaxy is empty space. That's why I compared the merging of the galaxies closer to water going through a sieve.
The odds of 2 stars colliding from the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxy are extremely miniscule. The sky will most certainly look different, but odds of collisions happening are not that great.
Considering how long the Iconians seem to have been around (they seem to be much older than 200,000 years), waiting 2 billion years for Andromeda to merge with us would be the strategically safer option.
Yeah. Also. Um, no. Largely, both galaxies will eventually blend together and settle down nicely, but during the three collision periods, before that settling down into one new cohesive galaxy, many collisions will take place. If any two suns collide and supernova, nearby safe systems with life will, in all likelihood, die from the X-ray burst.
But, by then, Humans will have killed off one another or will will have huge solar system sized Dyson-spheres and be able to take a sun and planets with us to escape the collision. OR perhaps we will have turned ourselves into pure energy being, like the Organians, so that we can watch the cosmic light show from the safety of a sub-space realm.
Or... Make up your own story of how the ever adaptable humans escaped the end of the universe, yet again.
Its more likely that we'll eventually evolve into something else and whatever that is itll expand out into the galaxy.
There is a running theory right now that sentient species have different levels of technological benchmarks, and those different levels determine our technological advancements. Like travelling across the stars in a reasonable amount of time. The theory holds that not all sentient species will climb to the highest level. And its possible we are unable to make it to that level. It may take evolving to get us to that point.
But if we dont , we'll die off just like 99% of every other species that has existed. I guess you can say if we evolve we're still dying off since humans as we are would no longer exist.
But if we dont , we'll die off just like 99% of every other species that has existed. I guess you can say if we evolve we're still dying off since humans as we are would no longer exist.
That's like saying the 5 yearold you is dead because he grew up and changed into you. So long as our descendants take with them Einstein, Picasso, Mozart, Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King; all our science, history, culture and music and art, then they'll still be human.
That's like saying the 5 yearold you is dead because he grew up and changed into you. So long as our descendants take with them Einstein, Picasso, Mozart, Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King; all our science, history, culture and music and art, then they'll still be human.
There will eventually be a time where our evolutionary descendants will become so advanced that by comparison they will make us look like monkeys. Can you still call a race that is beyond our comprehension as humans?
*star is about to explode. Sisko punches the star. It stops exploding*
*Janeway sees the star explode. She sends herself back in time to stop the star exploding by injecting herself with some experimental matter to restablise the star.*
If humans don't get our act together and create a real Star Trek like future, we'll all be dead long before anything collides with our galaxy or even our planet.
Silly Uu'maans will never learn.
They have not in 300K years, they don't now, so why would they ever?
Only when things run badly out of hand, they will look up...
And do nothing more.
That's like saying the 5 yearold you is dead because he grew up and changed into you. So long as our descendants take with them Einstein, Picasso, Mozart, Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King; all our science, history, culture and music and art, then they'll still be human.
But will we be recognizable as human (both in physical and behavioral realms) ?
I'm asking because we'll be further apart from our current selves then the cave dwelling Neanderthal is from current day "us" .
As things are going as they do, there is no future human species.
We're self-destructive morons, we're the dumbest smart species in the known galaxy.
Intelligent beings would try to prevent things from happening, or they would learn.
In both cases the human species failed miserable, still failing today.
We've been around for say 300K years, we've build piramids, we've build cities, we've got airplanes, we've walked the moon, we got toys hopping over Mars' surface, we can cure quite a few diseases, we've got politics... no disregard this, we somewhat understand a few things, but the two MOST important things we've should've learn, we've failed to learn: living in balance with nature and ourselves (not to mention OTHERS).
Let's make a definition of a human in general:
-we rob the planet (our host) of all and every resource: check.
-we make our host sick (polution/environmental destructon (think of woods for one)): check.
-we're preparing ourselves (let's rephrase: we make ourselves believe that we do, but obviously we're heading nowhere) to infest a next moon/planet: check
-once on this 'new home' we'll start over: robbing the host of all resources, diseasing it, and once done, prep to move onwards: check.
Now let us see what a parasite is...
Ummm...
Never mind.
As things are going as they do, there is no future human species.
We're self-destructive morons, we're the dumbest smart species in the known galaxy.
Intelligent beings would try to prevent things from happening, or they would learn.
In both cases the human species failed miserable, still failing today.
We've been around for say 300K years, we've build piramids, we've build cities, we've got airplanes, we've walked the moon, we got toys hopping over Mars' surface, we can cure quite a few diseases, we've got politics... no disregard this, we somewhat understand a few things, but the two MOST important things we've should've learn, we've failed to learn: living in balance with nature and ourselves (not to mention OTHERS).
Let's make a definition of a human in general:
-we rob the planet (our host) of all and every resource: check.
-we make our host sick (polution/environmental destructon (think of woods for one)): check.
-we're preparing ourselves (let's rephrase: we make ourselves believe that we do, but obviously we're heading nowhere) to infest a next moon/planet: check
-once on this 'new home' we'll start over: robbing the host of all resources, diseasing it, and once done, prep to move onwards: check.
Now let us see what a parasite is...
Ummm...
Never mind.
Nice post .
But you forgot to add that we'd be pissed at the Borg for getting there first and doing what we do on an industrial scale ... .
Well, as for a civilization, the Borg are a huge example to us.
They do not know envy, racial hatred, homophobia, to them, each drone is equal.
They go out of their way to help a fellow drone, and if beyond repair, this drone will be salvaged.
They do not know crime, they do not know discrimination (although they do not assimilate 'lesser' or uninteresting to the Collective species).
If the Borg would arrive here, it'd be for the better of mankind.
If that happens. The immense size of both galaxies and the immense distance of stars means that more than likely they will simply pass through one another. Most of a galaxy is empty space. That's why I compared the merging of the galaxies closer to water going through a sieve.
The odds of 2 stars colliding from the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxy are extremely miniscule. The sky will most certainly look different, but odds of collisions happening are not that great.
Of course you would try to play this down, but your plan is revealed! We will prepare ourselves. We will establish tight Galactic Border Patrols to ensure that no Andromedan star system will slip through!
Star Trek Online Advancement: You start with lowbie gear, you end with Lobi gear.
That IMAGE sequence of Andromeda's approach is amazing. That would be a special gift to future generations.
Quick, someone start doing the time-lapse photography!
One picture ever thousand years aught to do it. Unless you think that will be a waste of film. You're right, one pic every ten-thousand should be exactly right.
And yes, the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with us, but there is no guarantee it will actually change anything.
Given the size of both galaxies, it might be similar to water going through a sieve.
There will be gravity distortions of the shape of the Galaxies / new Galaxy. Possibly new positioning of of our solar system (perhaps further out for some computer models).
Only real danger is getting snagged into the interior and it becomes more active, or moving into a new star birth region where a bunch of new large blue stars are born, burn out, and explode.
But the amount of time it would take for any of that...
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OH TRIBBLE!!!
Someone get me my rubber boots this is gonna be a mighty long swim :eek:
Well, give or take a decade or 3. :P
If humans don't get our act together and create a real Star Trek like future, we'll all be dead long before anything collides with our galaxy or even our planet.
well supposedly our sun goes nova within 3 billion year or something so we'd have no choice but to do that anyway lol
And yes, the Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with us, but there is no guarantee it will actually change anything.
Given the size of both galaxies, it might be similar to water going through a sieve.
Yeah. Also. Um, no. Largely, both galaxies will eventually blend together and settle down nicely, but during the three collision periods, before that settling down into one new cohesive galaxy, some collisions might take place. If any two suns collide and supernova, nearby safe systems with life will, in all likelihood, die from the X-ray burst. Even near misses might be enough to change planetary orbit. If Earht-like, it might change the status enough to kill the current life-form.
But, by then, Humans will have killed off one another or will will have huge solar system sized Dyson-spheres and be able to take a sun and planets with us to escape the collision. OR perhaps we will have turned ourselves into pure energy being, like the Organians, so that we can watch the cosmic light show from the safety of a sub-space realm.
Or... Make up your own story of how the ever adaptable humans escaped the end of the universe, yet again.
Edit - I had to edit this because I felt that I had chosen the wrong words. I've since tempered them.
If that happens. The immense size of both galaxies and the immense distance of stars means that more than likely they will simply pass through one another. Most of a galaxy is empty space. That's why I compared the merging of the galaxies closer to water going through a sieve.
The odds of 2 stars colliding from the Andromeda and Milky Way galaxy are extremely miniscule. The sky will most certainly look different, but odds of collisions happening are not that great.
Its more likely that we'll eventually evolve into something else and whatever that is itll expand out into the galaxy.
There is a running theory right now that sentient species have different levels of technological benchmarks, and those different levels determine our technological advancements. Like travelling across the stars in a reasonable amount of time. The theory holds that not all sentient species will climb to the highest level. And its possible we are unable to make it to that level. It may take evolving to get us to that point.
But if we dont , we'll die off just like 99% of every other species that has existed. I guess you can say if we evolve we're still dying off since humans as we are would no longer exist.
That's like saying the 5 yearold you is dead because he grew up and changed into you. So long as our descendants take with them Einstein, Picasso, Mozart, Gandhi and Mandela and Martin Luther King; all our science, history, culture and music and art, then they'll still be human.
There will eventually be a time where our evolutionary descendants will become so advanced that by comparison they will make us look like monkeys. Can you still call a race that is beyond our comprehension as humans?
- Kirk'd
That was so bad I laughed
"Yes, (Insert your Captain's name here). You saved the Sun. You saved us all."
"I never ran Japori for as an exploit for 17x the Specialization Points. What do you think of my solution?"
Had to do a Picard...
*star is about to explode. Sisko punches the star. It stops exploding*
*Janeway sees the star explode. She sends herself back in time to stop the star exploding by injecting herself with some experimental matter to restablise the star.*
"You Klingon son, you killed my TRIBBLE!"
They have not in 300K years, they don't now, so why would they ever?
Only when things run badly out of hand, they will look up...
And do nothing more.
Silly, silly Uu'maans....
But will we be recognizable as human (both in physical and behavioral realms) ?
I'm asking because we'll be further apart from our current selves then the cave dwelling Neanderthal is from current day "us" .
We're self-destructive morons, we're the dumbest smart species in the known galaxy.
Intelligent beings would try to prevent things from happening, or they would learn.
In both cases the human species failed miserable, still failing today.
We've been around for say 300K years, we've build piramids, we've build cities, we've got airplanes, we've walked the moon, we got toys hopping over Mars' surface, we can cure quite a few diseases, we've got politics... no disregard this, we somewhat understand a few things, but the two MOST important things we've should've learn, we've failed to learn: living in balance with nature and ourselves (not to mention OTHERS).
Let's make a definition of a human in general:
-we rob the planet (our host) of all and every resource: check.
-we make our host sick (polution/environmental destructon (think of woods for one)): check.
-we're preparing ourselves (let's rephrase: we make ourselves believe that we do, but obviously we're heading nowhere) to infest a next moon/planet: check
-once on this 'new home' we'll start over: robbing the host of all resources, diseasing it, and once done, prep to move onwards: check.
Now let us see what a parasite is...
Ummm...
Never mind.
Nice post .
But you forgot to add that we'd be pissed at the Borg for getting there first and doing what we do on an industrial scale ... .
They do not know envy, racial hatred, homophobia, to them, each drone is equal.
They go out of their way to help a fellow drone, and if beyond repair, this drone will be salvaged.
They do not know crime, they do not know discrimination (although they do not assimilate 'lesser' or uninteresting to the Collective species).
If the Borg would arrive here, it'd be for the better of mankind.
Now, thankfully, I am an optimist. *grins*
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...and by extension, sentient...
Did you guys see The Big Bang Theory this week?
Aliens might well see Earth as an out of the way diner.
Alien One: That soft pink alien looks delicious.
Alien Two: I could eat."
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Of course you would try to play this down, but your plan is revealed! We will prepare ourselves. We will establish tight Galactic Border Patrols to ensure that no Andromedan star system will slip through!
One Big Bad to Rule them all and in the Darkness Grind them."
Quick, someone start doing the time-lapse photography!
One picture ever thousand years aught to do it. Unless you think that will be a waste of film. You're right, one pic every ten-thousand should be exactly right.
There will be gravity distortions of the shape of the Galaxies / new Galaxy. Possibly new positioning of of our solar system (perhaps further out for some computer models).
Only real danger is getting snagged into the interior and it becomes more active, or moving into a new star birth region where a bunch of new large blue stars are born, burn out, and explode.
But the amount of time it would take for any of that...