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Confusion about T6/T5U

zeryon01zeryon01 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
edited March 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I really just have a quick question about this; and after searching the threads I still couldn't find an answer as everything seemed to devolve quickly.

Basically, it's simply this:
Are T5U ships the same as T6--just without the trait?

I know that upgrading you ships allows for additional console slot, and hull/shield modifers, etc. But I'm wondering what exactly IS the difference beyond the trait?

Thanks in advance!
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  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    They are basically the same but without the trait.
    T6's have less hp's but get an extra ability. And if you have a t6 everyone makes fun of you because they say "what do you think you need to fight with that".
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    zeryon01 wrote: »
    I really just have a quick question about this; and after searching the threads I still couldn't find an answer as everything seemed to devolve quickly.

    Basically, it's simply this:
    Are T5U ships the same as T6--just without the trait?

    I know that upgrading you ships allows for additional console slot, and hull/shield modifers, etc. But I'm wondering what exactly IS the difference beyond the trait?

    Thanks in advance!


    No. T6 ships all have at least 1 hybrid station (Intel/something; Command/something; or Intel/Command/something even, in case of new Bug ship). T5-U ships do not.
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  • dabelgravedabelgrave Member Posts: 979 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The engineering report about the differences: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7002133-tier-5-starship-upgrades
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  • jarvisandalfredjarvisandalfred Member Posts: 1,549 Bug Hunter
    edited March 2015
    zeryon01 wrote: »
    I really just have a quick question about this; and after searching the threads I still couldn't find an answer as everything seemed to devolve quickly.

    Basically, it's simply this:
    Are T5U ships the same as T6--just without the trait?

    I know that upgrading you ships allows for additional console slot, and hull/shield modifers, etc. But I'm wondering what exactly IS the difference beyond the trait?

    Thanks in advance!

    The exact difference is as follows:

    T6 ships have a trait

    T6 ships have a 13th bridge officer ability

    T6 ships have the ability to slot a specialization bridge officer

    T6 ships have one more console than their T5 equivalent (Fleet T5 is 10 consoles, Fleet T6 is 11 consoles. This discrepancy is currently remedied by T5-U, which grants the ship an extra console)
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  • zeryon01zeryon01 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Perfect, thanks for the replies everyone--and the link the blog! The chart on there cleared everything up for me!
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    T5-U is a way to milk a little money from you, T6 is a way to milk a lot of money from you
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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         Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    No. T6 ships all have at least 1 hybrid station (Intel/something; Command/something; or Intel/Command/something even, in case of new Bug ship). T5-U ships do not.

    Not all T6 ships are intended to have a hybrid station as I understand it. Cryptic indicated early on that they might release T6 ships without hybrid stations at some point.

    T6 ships do unlock a starship trait through T5 mastery (which can be used back on a T5U ship).

    They DO have an extra BO ability and lower hull.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ursusmorologus wrote: »
    T5-U is a way to milk a little money from you, T6 is a way to milk a lot of money from you

    Sounds spot on!

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  • jackal1701apwjackal1701apw Member Posts: 669 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Regular T6 has less HP than T5-U (which is considered a fleet level vessel).
    However, Fleet-T6 (ie Command vessels and all T6 lockbox ships) have the same hull as T5-U.

    So the difference between T6-F and T5-U is

    +1 boff slot (ensign, Lt or LtC)
    +mastery trait @ T5 mastery
    ability to slot one or two specialisation hybrid officers

    There are no downsides. They are better in every way. All your old ships are obsolete.

    (where the meaning of this word is that they are no longer top-of-the-range nor does your investment actually grant you anything towards the new ships, but not in the meaning that your old ships cannot complete existing 'Elite' content)

    It is a brave new world. One where I will have a much harder think about whether to purchase (or try to obtain) new ships, versus just sticking it out with what I already have.

    Increased monetisation - not for me, in fact quite the opposite.

    I expect this thread to be closed (just like all the T5U vs T6 discussions that have been hit by the mod-hammer today)...
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  • danquellerdanqueller Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Of course, if they did grant a free T6 upgrade (something not done yet to -any- ship) to this ship, it would follow that other lockbox ships would have grounds for the same treatment, not to mention all ships that have actually -paid- to upgrade.

    Unless, of course, this is a case of people who prefer one ship being granted preferential treatment while others who prefer some other ship are not given the same consideration for the same reasons.
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