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Recycling the Captain's Table

gorcon1gorcon1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
I am glad to hear that there will be an established memorial for Leonard Nimoy and his character Ambassador Spock.

I have been contemplating this idea.

Could the Developers recycle the "Captain's Table" and make it free access to all players and make it into a growing living memorial to all the cherished actors and actresses who have enriched our lives via the Star Trek Franchise. Post your thoughts...

Thanks Admiral Andrekos Axemaker,
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  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I had the same thought and mentioned it elsewhere earlier too; the only issue is that Lifetime Subscriptions includes access to the Captain's Table, which means that it could be a contractual issue. However, the map of it is ideal for a memorial area for Star Trek alumni that have passed on.

    EDIT: To clarify and spell out, there's a big difference between Captain's Table "The Map", and Captain's Table "The Vet Reward". Creating a new map for "The Vet Reward" which is far more in line with what Vets want/need, and thus freeing up "The Map" which is woefully underutilized for a memorial/museum/social zone is not necessarily a bad idea; it's better than having memorials all over the place, or ending up with a map which is either non-universal (e.g. Vulcan can't be entered by KDF), or that is old or outdated (e.g. Drozana).
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    How many people actually USE the Captain's Table though? From what I've heard, it offers nothing that isn't offered at ESD.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    How many people actually USE the Captain's Table though? From what I've heard, it offers nothing that isn't offered at ESD.

    It offers silence.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If Cryptic added a Transwarp to Captain's Table ability, then it would see a lot more use. Besides, the Captain's Table is for Captains not regular crew members. It doesn't make sense to honor Spock, McCoy, and Scotty at the Captain's Table when there are far better locations.
  • janus1975janus1975 Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    If Cryptic added a Transwarp to Captain's Table ability, then it would see a lot more use. Besides, the Captain's Table is for Captains not regular crew members. It doesn't make sense to honor Spock, McCoy, and Scotty at the Captain's Table when there are far better locations.

    If I recall correctly, the Captain's Table was being considered for a revamp anyway, to try to make it something that got regular use (it is, after all, a benefit for Vets and thus a feature of purchase). If you forget about the name and think about the map, it could be used as a 'memorial starbase' under the guise of a museum, open to all, with a new Captain's Table for Vets which had actual useful things to do there.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    janus1975 wrote: »
    If I recall correctly, the Captain's Table was being considered for a revamp anyway, to try to make it something that got regular use (it is, after all, a benefit for Vets and thus a feature of purchase). If you forget about the name and think about the map, it could be used as a 'memorial starbase' under the guise of a museum, open to all, with a new Captain's Table for Vets which had actual useful things to do there.

    The only revamp I have heard about the Captain's Table is attaching a door from Club 47 to the Captain's Table and that was put on hold until the Klingons got their own Club 47.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    edited March 2015
    cidjack wrote: »
    It offers silence.

    So does disabling Zone Chat.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • derrico1derrico1 Member Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    If Cryptic added a Transwarp to Captain's Table ability, then it would see a lot more use. Besides, the Captain's Table is for Captains not regular crew members. It doesn't make sense to honor Spock, McCoy, and Scotty at the Captain's Table when there are far better


    AS FOR SPOCK AND MR SCOTT THEY BOTH RANKED AT CAPTAIN AND AS FOR DR McCOY HE WAS RANK OF ADMIRAL ..

  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    rattler2 wrote: »
    So does disabling Zone Chat.

    If I disable chat, I cannot expand my ignore list!
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    derrico1 wrote: »
    starkaos wrote: »
    If Cryptic added a Transwarp to Captain's Table ability, then it would see a lot more use. Besides, the Captain's Table is for Captains not regular crew members. It doesn't make sense to honor Spock, McCoy, and Scotty at the Captain's Table when there are far better


    AS FOR SPOCK AND MR SCOTT THEY BOTH RANKED AT CAPTAIN AND AS FOR DR McCOY HE WAS RANK OF ADMIRAL ..


    That is a damn good point.
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  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I might be the only one who thinks this, but I think the Captain's Table should remain "exclusive" to Subscribers of the game. It is supposed to be a perk for those that subscribe to the game, after all.

    I feel that if the dev team were to make the location available to free players, it would "cheapen" the location. I also want to say that this is only my opinion.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I might be the only one who thinks this, but I think the Captain's Table should remain "exclusive" to Subscribers of the game. It is supposed to be a perk for those that subscribe to the game, after all.

    I feel that if the dev team were to make the location available to free players, it would "cheapen" the location. I also want to say that this is only my opinion.

    Agreed, if they open it up to everyone, I would like a refund.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    derrico1 wrote: »
    AS FOR SPOCK AND MR SCOTT THEY BOTH RANKED AT CAPTAIN AND AS FOR DR McCOY HE WAS RANK OF ADMIRAL ..


    A Captain is someone in command of a ship. The Captain's Table is only for this definition of Captain not someone that obtained the rank of Captain. Just having a yacht will most likely not qualify a person to be a Captain in the Captain's Table. Our characters are still Captains even though they have the rank of Fleet Admiral. Spock was a Captain for Starfleet Academy where he trained cadets on the Enterprise and Scott and McCoy were never in command of a vessel as far as we know. So Scott and McCoy were never Captains while it is debatable if Spock was a Captain even though they had the rank of Captain.
  • xablisxablis Member Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The Captains Table is a Vet Reward. If it gets opened up to Silvers that haven't subbed for 400 days then it had better be replaced with another exclusive location that only 400+ day vets can access.

    Originally the Captain's Table was LTS only, then later it was given to 400 day vets after vet rewards were added to the game. So it would not be the first time Cryptic took something that was LTS and changed it, especially for the CT which has already been changed once for whom is allowed access.
  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    A Captain is someone in command of a ship. The Captain's Table is only for this definition of Captain not someone that obtained the rank of Captain. Just having a yacht will most likely not qualify a person to be a Captain in the Captain's Table. Our characters are still Captains even though they have the rank of Fleet Admiral. Spock was a Captain for Starfleet Academy where he trained cadets on the Enterprise and Scott and McCoy were never in command of a vessel as far as we know. So Scott and McCoy were never Captains while it is debatable if Spock was a Captain even though they had the rank of Captain.

    Spock was technically in command of Enterprise at the start of TWoK. Remember, he was talking about how he had no ego to bruise if Kirk took command.

    SPOCK: As a teacher on a training mission, I am content to command the Enterprise. If we are to go on actual duty, it is clear that the senior officer on board must assume command.
    KIRK: It may be nothing, ...garbled communications. You take the ship.
    SPOCK: Jim, you proceed from a false assumption. I am a Vulcan. I have no ego to bruise.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    hravik wrote: »
    Spock was technically in command of Enterprise at the start of TWoK. Remember, he was talking about how he had no ego to bruise if Kirk took command.

    SPOCK: As a teacher on a training mission, I am content to command the Enterprise. If we are to go on actual duty, it is clear that the senior officer on board must assume command.
    KIRK: It may be nothing, ...garbled communications. You take the ship.
    SPOCK: Jim, you proceed from a false assumption. I am a Vulcan. I have no ego to bruise.

    Which is why I said it was debatable if Spock was the Captain of the Enterprise or not. Sure he is commanding the Enterprise, but the crew is a bunch of cadets. It is not like commanding the Enterprise when its an official Starfleet mission.
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    perhaps as a compromise use the memory alpha map instead , because as we all know the conflict with the klingons is over , also it would be a good re-use of that location as long as it is opened to KDF too..................
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    Which is why I said it was debatable if Spock was the Captain of the Enterprise or not. Sure he is commanding the Enterprise, but the crew is a bunch of cadets. It is not like commanding the Enterprise when its an official Starfleet mission.
    It doesn't matter if the crew was cadets or not, it's still command of a ship. And training cadets on training cruises are official Starfleet missions. They may be dull and routine, but they are still official Starfleet missions.

    Also to consider. The Enterprise may have been given to Spock after the disappearance of Captain Decker. The training cruise could have just been the Enterprise's turn in a set rotation. The normal crew that wasn't there to assist with the training would have been on R&R or advanced training.
  • js26568js26568 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I don't want Captain's Table to be accessible to just anyone.

    If they choose to make it that way, nobody will be entitled to a refund. You spent your money long ago and you have no say in what Cryptic does.
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  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Khitomer would have been the perfect place for a "Galactic Museum" or memorial. That is before the Klingons decided they wanted it. The reason being that it was instrumental in the Star Trek franchise. It was located in a neutral area and so should have been accessible by any faction.
  • gorcon1gorcon1 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    When I posted this thread, I did not mention that I am a LTS member since open Beta. I have gone to the Captain's Table a few times in the five years. However, I question .. Is it a perk if I or anyone else rarely uses it.... a perk should be interesting and unique enough to keep and maintain my attention...

    Which is why they could keep part of it open to a public memorial for all deceased actors of the Star Trek Franchise, because they all added to the lore and the entertainment value. While still maintaining the 'secret club' available to those who "paid" for it.
  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    A Captain is someone in command of a ship. The Captain's Table is only for this definition of Captain not someone that obtained the rank of Captain. Just having a yacht will most likely not qualify a person to be a Captain in the Captain's Table. Our characters are still Captains even though they have the rank of Fleet Admiral. Spock was a Captain for Starfleet Academy where he trained cadets on the Enterprise and Scott and McCoy were never in command of a vessel as far as we know. So Scott and McCoy were never Captains while it is debatable if Spock was a Captain even though they had the rank of Captain.

    Scotty held the rank of Captain of Engineering on the Excelsior until he disabled her in Star Trek III. And Scotty was a very able commander in his own right as third in command of the Enterprise.
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    As someone who has been a subscriber since Beta (first three years, a yearly sub , the went LTS), I see no value in an exclusive area for me that offers no activity. If the devs use it as a museum to honor the memories of the lost, for all to see, so be it. If there was something worth going to there right now, it would be a different story. At least they would be making good use of the space.
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