to start with i beleive we should have a memorial to leonard nimoy but if we are going to have one for him we should also have on for deforest kelly and james doohan as they were also a big part of star trek i just dont think it would be fair if one got and the others did not
I don't necessarily disagree, but Nimoy did do VO for STO. IMO that connection to the game is why Nimoy should be remembered in a more special way in game.
That's because DeForest Kelley and James Doohan passed away before the game launched.
I would not oppose memorials for all of them.
The idea of a museum or hall of fame came up in my fleet chat as well. I would not be opposed.
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What would be nice is a memorial for the Legends of the series and movies...a plaque for all that have left us...with their names and character they played. Placed in DS9 since everyone can access it. Then a special memorial for Mr. Nimoy since he did reprise his character on STO. Should also be accessible by all factions.
Also a memorial to Mr Roddenberry. Without his vision, none of this would have been possible!
That's because DeForest Kelley and James Doohan passed away before the game launched.
I would not oppose memorials for all of them.
Me neither. But even those three aren't the only actors from Trek to have passed away - sadly plenty of others have too, not to mention Gene Roddenberry himself.
Maybe what we need is more of a wall of rememberence for everyone thats passed away?
I can only speek for myself, but I don't need a memorial to remember people who have been important to me. If I wan't to see them again I watch some old Star Trek episodes or movies.
If the devs did go this route, while a museum or large memorial is one idea, it doesn't necessarily have to take up a giant amount of virtual real estate. It could easily be fairly compact in in-game size, but then you click on it to read the text.
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This came up in other posts too. The idea I had which I'll share here too was twofold:
First, Nimoy occupies a special place in STO because he participated in launching STO, as well as doing the voiceover for the Data Recorder, and two of the missions ("City on the Edge of Never", and "Past Imperfect"). Scotty and McCoy as characters are at least in the game in the Devidian arc.
Second, it would do well to have some sort of memorial for all the people involved in Star Trek over the past five decades who have passed on. However, there are many of them: Gene Roddenberry, Majel Roddenberry, James Doohan, DeForest Kelley, Mark Lenard to name a few.
We can't really have STO littered with memorials everywhere; however, we do have the Constitution Class exterior, her interior, and the Utopia Planetia shipyard which is currently not being used at all. Thus, it would make sense to dust these off and create an area specifically for these. It could be presented under the guise of a "museum", with the NCC-1701, the Defiant, etc., and with holograms for crew, and plaques for actors and notable film crew who have passed away.
Such a setting could even be used for the Lore chips (Fed side at least), as well as being open to all three factions for gatherings. Plus, it could allow for an Accolade for talking to all the holographic recreations (as happens when you read all the plaques in Starfleet Academy).
At least with something like this, there is flexibility to include people as required without having to continually build something new, and would be a useful place for players to go.
EDIT: Someone else on another thread suggested using the Captain's Table; while the concept itself is meant to be a "Vet Reward" with the legal issues that come with it, the idea of using that map actually works extremely well, as it's open to all three factions, it has a retro-timeless feel, and is meant to be a social zone in any case.
Not sure if this was suggested already, but why not do a memorial wall. It can be divided into different sections. One for each ST series. When one dies, their name is placed on it in memorial of them.
By doing this, there will be enough room to have a proper place for those that have passed before the game went active, and one for those that may pass in the future. I have seen memorials like that at different law enforcement locations, and is an awesome way to remember them, and at the same time show that no one past, present, or future will ever be forgotten.
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If I were EP, this is the memorial I would do: I would want it to make sense In game. The stuffy Vulcans would never honor Spock with anything on Vulcan. New Romulus isnt worthy to have ANYTHING there. As for getting visited by Klingons too, who cares, load your Fed toon, we all have one.
I would have a mini mission where Admiral Quinn was dedicating a new memorial / inspiration wing on the grounds of Starfleet Academy dedicated to the finest crew in Starfleet, the crew of the USS Enterprise 1701. It would be a small building on the campus, you would walk in the front door to a small lobby that had pictures of the Enterprise and clickable memorial plaques that opened popup text to describe some of the ship and crew's most memorable missions. The plaques would only have a faint outline glow to them, not that over the top firery glow STO uses now. Then a door in the center of the lobby that opened up to a scale TOS Bridge of the USS Enterprise. Inside, a holographic representation of Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Bones, Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu. They wouldnt flicker like obvious holograms either. They would be at their iconic stations with one or two canned animations each.
Kirk would mostly look at his view screen with that signature grin on his face. After a few seconds, he'd press the intercom button on his right arm console and lean over to mouth inaudible words into it where we see his mouth move. He'd sit back then a blonde generic yeoman with an obvious nod to Rand would appear out of thin air by the turbolift, walk down to Kirk, hand him a padd, he looks it over, signs it, hands it back to her, she walks back up to turbolift doors and disappears until the animation reloads in a few minutes.
Spock would be sitting at his station, ocasionally looking back at the viewscreen. He'd stand up and lean over to look into his viewer thingy. Then he'd stand straight up, turn to look at the viewscreen, raise an eyebrow. Then sit back down to start the loop over again. Each character would be on a 3 minute loop.
Uhura would look back and forth at her station and the viewscreen, holding her hand to her ear occasionally.
Sulu and Chekov would look lively at their stations always seated and looking at viewscreen. Scotty would be at station on the right. Mccoy would stand near Uhura, and be on a loop to walk down by the captain and stand and look at viewscreen with Jim, then walk back up, and walk over to stand near Spock during the loop minute Spock is standing up and looking at viewscreen too.
By each character would be a small readable plaque mounted into the console areas by the characters. It would also have a subtle glow around the plaque outline. Each plaque would say the characters full name, with starfleet service record year span 22XX - 22XX written below the character name. Each plaque would have the bottom half reserved for the actor's name if we already lost them. So Spock's gold plaque would say
Spock
Starfleet Service
22XX - 22XX
In Loving Memory of
Leonard Nimoy
19XX - 2015
When you click on the plaques, it had a long description of that characters most memorable moments of their service in Starfleet.
Kirk's plaque would be mounted standing up on the left arm of his chair. The others would be hard mounted into the stations right next to them, and Mccoys somewhere between Uhura and the turbolift where he'd stand next to. I dont want any glowy floaty things in there. I want the plaques to blend in, very subtle glows, and the viewscreen would have memorable mission moments as a slideshow on the viewscreen. We can take our toons onto the bridge and stand next to each character to take our printscreen picture with them.
Id want the best representation of each actor's face possible. As well as Picardo was drawn, not like Seven, the animated NPCs really need to look a LOT like Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly, etc. When the actor passes away, we fill in the death year under their name on the plaque. Starfleet academy would do this in their world, now that it seems Spock is not coming back, and Star Trek and STO owe a lot to the original crew that started it all. I would think each actor would be fine with using their young faces as a memorial with the rest of their cast.
Icing on the cake would be to have Patrick Stewart read each characters biography after you clicked on the plaques, but thats likely asking too much.
Anyways, thats how Id tastefully memorialize the original crew and the actors who played them.
Make it so Taco!
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I see allot of them with a character, and ship.
though I'm not sure which ship to put on there...
I'll think about it. This will do for now.
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PS : I'd rather honor the character/work he was famous for, and was obviously very important to himself ... than "Leonard Nimoy - the private person" ... simply because I didn't knew him, was not his family etc -> it's not really my place ... that's whats his real Grave/Memorial is for ... not some Videogame ...
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Also a memorial to Mr Roddenberry. Without his vision, none of this would have been possible!
oh come the fckn on....
His Vision was making money.
He screwed the staff of TOS, he shamelessly tried a backdoor pilot with Assignment: Earth after he noticed ToS running out of steam.
His "vision" suffocated the TMP, His meddling doomed TNG to 2 seasons of utter, incomprehensible, CRAZY absurdness and only after he was finally expelled from position of influence was that we got some of the most memorable Star Trek storylines.
Genes "vision" was to make money.
Star Trek in the form we know and love it is a product of many people labors and influences.
Roddenberry created a barebones universe, others filled it with live.
So can we please stop lifting him up on some altar him and start thanking EVERYONE who worked to create our Star Trek?
I don't necessarily disagree, but Nimoy did do VO for STO. IMO that connection to the game is why Nimoy should be remembered in a more special way in game.
Thats my thinking as well. he was apart of the game as much as anyone else. no disrespect to Deforest or James, but they didn't provide any of their own talent to the game, as cruel as it's written because it was well after their deaths, its also the truth. Leonard had a part of the game, probably a significant part in being there in the storyline. He even wrote a logical line of text before his death, Spock was always apart of Leonard and everyone loved him for it.
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What would be nice is a memorial for the Legends of the series and movies...a plaque for all that have left us...with their names and character they played. Placed in DS9 since everyone can access it. Then a special memorial for Mr. Nimoy since he did reprise his character on STO. Should also be accessible by all factions.
Also a memorial to Mr Roddenberry. Without his vision, none of this would have been possible!
Godspeed Mr Nimoy! You will be in great company.
RIP
yeah, that will be excelent, i hope they will implement it is some way.
i know leonard nimoy did some voice overs for sto but i think if james doohan and deforest kelly were still here they would have done voice overs for there charaters in the 2 episodes they appear i think they all should get a memorial be it a wall or moselium something we can remember them all with
I don't necessarily disagree, but Nimoy did do VO for STO. IMO that connection to the game is why Nimoy should be remembered in a more special way in game.
Don't we already have a memorial, then?
His voice is immortalized in the game, for all time or until PWE decides the game is no longer worth supporting.
I like the idea of a memorial. For simplicity it should probably be on a neutral map, so devs don't have to make multiple designs.
I would go with a simple plaque that you click on to read, that gave a bio of the character, and a drop down giving one for the actor.
I would include the crew that work behind the scenes to. For instance someone that worked in wardrobe could have an in game bio of a quartermaster while the dropdown would have their real life background.
And of course only with the permission of the families.
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Like I said, both. You click on a plaque and you get a pop-up with the characters bio, and it has a drop-down button that gives you the actors. The best of both worlds.
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The idea of a museum or hall of fame came up in my fleet chat as well. I would not be opposed.
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Also a memorial to Mr Roddenberry. Without his vision, none of this would have been possible!
Godspeed Mr Nimoy! You will be in great company.
RIP
Me neither. But even those three aren't the only actors from Trek to have passed away - sadly plenty of others have too, not to mention Gene Roddenberry himself.
Maybe what we need is more of a wall of rememberence for everyone thats passed away?
If we give a Memorial to Leonard Nimoy, why not this or that person from Star Trek...
We gonna have a huge grave yard memorial to every person who has died that once did Trek?
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First, Nimoy occupies a special place in STO because he participated in launching STO, as well as doing the voiceover for the Data Recorder, and two of the missions ("City on the Edge of Never", and "Past Imperfect"). Scotty and McCoy as characters are at least in the game in the Devidian arc.
Second, it would do well to have some sort of memorial for all the people involved in Star Trek over the past five decades who have passed on. However, there are many of them: Gene Roddenberry, Majel Roddenberry, James Doohan, DeForest Kelley, Mark Lenard to name a few.
We can't really have STO littered with memorials everywhere; however, we do have the Constitution Class exterior, her interior, and the Utopia Planetia shipyard which is currently not being used at all. Thus, it would make sense to dust these off and create an area specifically for these. It could be presented under the guise of a "museum", with the NCC-1701, the Defiant, etc., and with holograms for crew, and plaques for actors and notable film crew who have passed away.
Such a setting could even be used for the Lore chips (Fed side at least), as well as being open to all three factions for gatherings. Plus, it could allow for an Accolade for talking to all the holographic recreations (as happens when you read all the plaques in Starfleet Academy).
At least with something like this, there is flexibility to include people as required without having to continually build something new, and would be a useful place for players to go.
EDIT: Someone else on another thread suggested using the Captain's Table; while the concept itself is meant to be a "Vet Reward" with the legal issues that come with it, the idea of using that map actually works extremely well, as it's open to all three factions, it has a retro-timeless feel, and is meant to be a social zone in any case.
By doing this, there will be enough room to have a proper place for those that have passed before the game went active, and one for those that may pass in the future. I have seen memorials like that at different law enforcement locations, and is an awesome way to remember them, and at the same time show that no one past, present, or future will ever be forgotten.
I would have a mini mission where Admiral Quinn was dedicating a new memorial / inspiration wing on the grounds of Starfleet Academy dedicated to the finest crew in Starfleet, the crew of the USS Enterprise 1701. It would be a small building on the campus, you would walk in the front door to a small lobby that had pictures of the Enterprise and clickable memorial plaques that opened popup text to describe some of the ship and crew's most memorable missions. The plaques would only have a faint outline glow to them, not that over the top firery glow STO uses now. Then a door in the center of the lobby that opened up to a scale TOS Bridge of the USS Enterprise. Inside, a holographic representation of Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Bones, Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu. They wouldnt flicker like obvious holograms either. They would be at their iconic stations with one or two canned animations each.
Kirk would mostly look at his view screen with that signature grin on his face. After a few seconds, he'd press the intercom button on his right arm console and lean over to mouth inaudible words into it where we see his mouth move. He'd sit back then a blonde generic yeoman with an obvious nod to Rand would appear out of thin air by the turbolift, walk down to Kirk, hand him a padd, he looks it over, signs it, hands it back to her, she walks back up to turbolift doors and disappears until the animation reloads in a few minutes.
Spock would be sitting at his station, ocasionally looking back at the viewscreen. He'd stand up and lean over to look into his viewer thingy. Then he'd stand straight up, turn to look at the viewscreen, raise an eyebrow. Then sit back down to start the loop over again. Each character would be on a 3 minute loop.
Uhura would look back and forth at her station and the viewscreen, holding her hand to her ear occasionally.
Sulu and Chekov would look lively at their stations always seated and looking at viewscreen. Scotty would be at station on the right. Mccoy would stand near Uhura, and be on a loop to walk down by the captain and stand and look at viewscreen with Jim, then walk back up, and walk over to stand near Spock during the loop minute Spock is standing up and looking at viewscreen too.
By each character would be a small readable plaque mounted into the console areas by the characters. It would also have a subtle glow around the plaque outline. Each plaque would say the characters full name, with starfleet service record year span 22XX - 22XX written below the character name. Each plaque would have the bottom half reserved for the actor's name if we already lost them. So Spock's gold plaque would say
Spock
Starfleet Service
22XX - 22XX
In Loving Memory of
Leonard Nimoy
19XX - 2015
When you click on the plaques, it had a long description of that characters most memorable moments of their service in Starfleet.
Kirk's plaque would be mounted standing up on the left arm of his chair. The others would be hard mounted into the stations right next to them, and Mccoys somewhere between Uhura and the turbolift where he'd stand next to. I dont want any glowy floaty things in there. I want the plaques to blend in, very subtle glows, and the viewscreen would have memorable mission moments as a slideshow on the viewscreen. We can take our toons onto the bridge and stand next to each character to take our printscreen picture with them.
Id want the best representation of each actor's face possible. As well as Picardo was drawn, not like Seven, the animated NPCs really need to look a LOT like Shatner, Nimoy, Kelly, etc. When the actor passes away, we fill in the death year under their name on the plaque. Starfleet academy would do this in their world, now that it seems Spock is not coming back, and Star Trek and STO owe a lot to the original crew that started it all. I would think each actor would be fine with using their young faces as a memorial with the rest of their cast.
Icing on the cake would be to have Patrick Stewart read each characters biography after you clicked on the plaques, but thats likely asking too much.
Anyways, thats how Id tastefully memorialize the original crew and the actors who played them.
Make it so Taco!
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There is cannon precedence for a Star Fleet Museum.
I like the idea of using assets to set up a virtual museum. They can even make a mission out of it. Like an update to the Academy daily missions;
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History 101: Alpha Quadrant from 2380.
I see allot of them with a character, and ship.
though I'm not sure which ship to put on there...
I'll think about it. This will do for now.
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PS : I'd rather honor the character/work he was famous for, and was obviously very important to himself ... than "Leonard Nimoy - the private person" ... simply because I didn't knew him, was not his family etc -> it's not really my place ... that's whats his real Grave/Memorial is for ... not some Videogame ...
oh come the fckn on....
His Vision was making money.
He screwed the staff of TOS, he shamelessly tried a backdoor pilot with Assignment: Earth after he noticed ToS running out of steam.
His "vision" suffocated the TMP, His meddling doomed TNG to 2 seasons of utter, incomprehensible, CRAZY absurdness and only after he was finally expelled from position of influence was that we got some of the most memorable Star Trek storylines.
Genes "vision" was to make money.
Star Trek in the form we know and love it is a product of many people labors and influences.
Roddenberry created a barebones universe, others filled it with live.
So can we please stop lifting him up on some altar him and start thanking EVERYONE who worked to create our Star Trek?
Thats my thinking as well. he was apart of the game as much as anyone else. no disrespect to Deforest or James, but they didn't provide any of their own talent to the game, as cruel as it's written because it was well after their deaths, its also the truth. Leonard had a part of the game, probably a significant part in being there in the storyline. He even wrote a logical line of text before his death, Spock was always apart of Leonard and everyone loved him for it.
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yeah, that will be excelent, i hope they will implement it is some way.
no, just main chars of original enterprise + memorable and impresive sidekicks - like mentioned good old khan - wotk was one of best st movies ever.
Now that's a great idea
That's a 120 year old bug report, guys. The tech support on my ship is the suck.
Don't we already have a memorial, then?
His voice is immortalized in the game, for all time or until PWE decides the game is no longer worth supporting.
I would go with a simple plaque that you click on to read, that gave a bio of the character, and a drop down giving one for the actor.
I would include the crew that work behind the scenes to. For instance someone that worked in wardrobe could have an in game bio of a quartermaster while the dropdown would have their real life background.
And of course only with the permission of the families.
Douglas MacArthur - Quote on the dedication plaque of the U.S.S. Ranger NCC-97332-A Armitage class Fleet Heavy Strike Wing Escort.
James Kirk is dead, but the actor is alive.
Remember that the Pharaohs built great tombs at great expense (both monetary and in human labour) in order to ensure there they are remembered.
We need no such memorials for the likes of these people. They are constantly on T.V, and are enjoyed by generation after generation.
What more of a fitting tribute/memorial could there be?
Like I said, both. You click on a plaque and you get a pop-up with the characters bio, and it has a drop-down button that gives you the actors. The best of both worlds.
Douglas MacArthur - Quote on the dedication plaque of the U.S.S. Ranger NCC-97332-A Armitage class Fleet Heavy Strike Wing Escort.