Rumors be rumors. Also, I've watched the entire DS9 series and not one mention of these "tetryon-plasma torpedoes" comes to mind. Care to show?
I've recently watched the main war arc, and I can remember three references to Dominion torpedoes:
The Odyssey bridge crew referred to Dominion weapons as "phased polaron." In that appearance the Jem'hadar didn't have their forward beam but only had an attack that could be a cannon or torpedo.
In the episode where one is lodged in the hull and Quark is forced to disarm it, it's simply referred to as a torpedo, but it is traced back to Karemma manufacture.
The Cardassian weapons platforms have "plasma" torpedoes, not any special kind. It's the only time the Cardassians are said to have plasma torpedoes, two other episodes (both dealing with pre-Dominion War Cardassian weapons) credit them with having photon and quantum torpedoes.
Memory Alpha, Beta, and Gamma have no mention of tetryon plasma torpedoes, and a google search for the term has only one result on the first page that has them together, and that's this thread. Above it there are STO wiki pages and a wikipedia list of Star Trek weapons that have all three words, but not together in one weapon.
Edit: Also, regarding the "rumors be rumors" bit: as far as I know, the still not fully explained screenshot of Borg coming through the wormhole and a fourth item in the Dominion set are the source of those rumors. There's no official information on actual future storylines, and the scattered details that dataminers have gotten out of newly added maps and models buried in tribble patches point in a very not-Dominion direction.
The same way CBS's license doesn't extend to other games or novels*, it doesn't extend to the little tech manuals Eaglemoss prints with their models any more than it would extend to the card text with the Attack Wing Jem'hadar ship. The card to mine declares it to have disruptor torpedoes.
*-the limited novel reference in the game is special cases - CBS actually does own the Luna-class, and the Vesta actually took a long time and a lot of working with the artist to license.
Like others, I haven't heard of teryon-plasma-torpedoes from a official source at all. But even if it were true: Please, not *another* damned plasma torpedo. I hate that weapon type. I'm more in favour of photon and quantum torpedoes. Tetryon as a modifier or gimmick could work, though. I'd like a tetryon photon/quantum torpedo with shield damage boni or subsystem disable effects.
^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
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plasma torp setup, with 2 proc's: DoT shield drain and stop ALL shield healing for 10 seconds, and system power drain (i.e. similar to polaron). The power drain might make it a little like the neutronic, but otherwise it's very different.
And the Borg used Gravity Torpedos/Missiles, and the Breen didn't use Polaron Weapons, and the Sovereign had 12 Phaser arrays, etc.
Things tend to get abstracted in games for the sake of simplicity.
With that said, I do think it would be interesting to see dual-type weapons.. like 'Quantum Phasers' that can scale with either Phaser or Quantum tactical consoles.
I do know that the Dominion have used Plasma based weapons.
I remember the episode where they were trying to steal the Breen Dampening weapon onto the stolen Jem'Hadar ship... Odo impersonated the female shapeshifter, and she made a comment about getting the new Plasma rifles.
So they are at least somewhat acquianted with that.
As much as I've always loved Star Trek, looking to it for any sort of technical consistency is a lost cause. Some episodes characters will say a species' ship is firing phasers, some times it's disruptors, sometimes it's tetryon, or god knows what else. About the only thing that became fairly consistent was that Romulans and Klingons fired green colored disruptors. Their torpedoes? They were some times green, sometimes red, so who knows.
The point is, in the show, there was nothing special about their torpedoes. They weren't like the transphasic torpedoes that bypassed shields and 1-shotted Borg Cubes. They weren't tricobolt torpedoes that were so high yield they could not only destroy an alien starbase but create a subspace rift. They weren't chroniton that used temporal phasing to bypass shields. So just use quantum torpedoes, they look exactly like the torpedoes the Jem'hadar used and work precisely the same way.
I'm more inclined to push for bug fixes than a Dominion revamp. Besides, completely unnecessary and a complete waste of resources to revamp them now.
Well, a Cardassian Arc revamp *is* coming... likely not with Season 10, but it is coming, and it is needed. I think the skill tree revamp and additions to the R&D system will come first... along with a new fleet holding, Fleet T6 ships, and probably, a new reputation.
Also, regarding the "rumors be rumors" bit: as far as I know, the still not fully explained screenshot of Borg coming through the wormhole and a fourth item in the Dominion set are the source of those rumors. There's no official information on actual future storylines, and the scattered details that dataminers have gotten out of newly added maps and models buried in tribble patches point in a very not-Dominion direction.
That photo had to do with the giveaway Smirk did around the start of the anniversary. It had ZERO to do with any future story content. Sadly, the Dominion won't be a focus for this game for a little while. There are two directions the game story is heading, in the upcoming months:
1. the Krenim
2. Sela
Not sure which will happen first, or if both will happen simultaneously... but, I would be shocked (BUT THRILLED) if we went after the Dominion.
Oh, and as to the OP.... never heard of these torpedoes. :P
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I'm more inclined to push for bug fixes than a Dominion revamp. Besides, completely unnecessary and a complete waste of resources to revamp them now.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
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Rumors be rumors. Also, I've watched the entire DS9 series and not one mention of these "tetryon-plasma torpedoes" comes to mind. Care to show?
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
I've recently watched the main war arc, and I can remember three references to Dominion torpedoes:
The Odyssey bridge crew referred to Dominion weapons as "phased polaron." In that appearance the Jem'hadar didn't have their forward beam but only had an attack that could be a cannon or torpedo.
In the episode where one is lodged in the hull and Quark is forced to disarm it, it's simply referred to as a torpedo, but it is traced back to Karemma manufacture.
The Cardassian weapons platforms have "plasma" torpedoes, not any special kind. It's the only time the Cardassians are said to have plasma torpedoes, two other episodes (both dealing with pre-Dominion War Cardassian weapons) credit them with having photon and quantum torpedoes.
Memory Alpha, Beta, and Gamma have no mention of tetryon plasma torpedoes, and a google search for the term has only one result on the first page that has them together, and that's this thread. Above it there are STO wiki pages and a wikipedia list of Star Trek weapons that have all three words, but not together in one weapon.
Edit: Also, regarding the "rumors be rumors" bit: as far as I know, the still not fully explained screenshot of Borg coming through the wormhole and a fourth item in the Dominion set are the source of those rumors. There's no official information on actual future storylines, and the scattered details that dataminers have gotten out of newly added maps and models buried in tribble patches point in a very not-Dominion direction.
Ah, so, from a licensed product then.
The same way CBS's license doesn't extend to other games or novels*, it doesn't extend to the little tech manuals Eaglemoss prints with their models any more than it would extend to the card text with the Attack Wing Jem'hadar ship. The card to mine declares it to have disruptor torpedoes.
*-the limited novel reference in the game is special cases - CBS actually does own the Luna-class, and the Vesta actually took a long time and a lot of working with the artist to license.
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I mean, maybe not good, but interesting at least.
plasma torp setup, with 2 proc's: DoT shield drain and stop ALL shield healing for 10 seconds, and system power drain (i.e. similar to polaron). The power drain might make it a little like the neutronic, but otherwise it's very different.
This is a fan created mod. The Dominion was absent from the base game, and not present as a main faction in the first.
Things tend to get abstracted in games for the sake of simplicity.
With that said, I do think it would be interesting to see dual-type weapons.. like 'Quantum Phasers' that can scale with either Phaser or Quantum tactical consoles.
I remember the episode where they were trying to steal the Breen Dampening weapon onto the stolen Jem'Hadar ship... Odo impersonated the female shapeshifter, and she made a comment about getting the new Plasma rifles.
So they are at least somewhat acquianted with that.
The point is, in the show, there was nothing special about their torpedoes. They weren't like the transphasic torpedoes that bypassed shields and 1-shotted Borg Cubes. They weren't tricobolt torpedoes that were so high yield they could not only destroy an alien starbase but create a subspace rift. They weren't chroniton that used temporal phasing to bypass shields. So just use quantum torpedoes, they look exactly like the torpedoes the Jem'hadar used and work precisely the same way.
Well, a Cardassian Arc revamp *is* coming... likely not with Season 10, but it is coming, and it is needed. I think the skill tree revamp and additions to the R&D system will come first... along with a new fleet holding, Fleet T6 ships, and probably, a new reputation.
That photo had to do with the giveaway Smirk did around the start of the anniversary. It had ZERO to do with any future story content. Sadly, the Dominion won't be a focus for this game for a little while. There are two directions the game story is heading, in the upcoming months:
1. the Krenim
2. Sela
Not sure which will happen first, or if both will happen simultaneously... but, I would be shocked (BUT THRILLED) if we went after the Dominion.
Oh, and as to the OP.... never heard of these torpedoes. :P
If it ain't on Memory Alpha or the hard canon, there's no backing for it. Your argument for it is on shaky ground.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
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Even if they were in the base game, it would still be non-canon. Canon is what happens on screen.