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khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
that what the dominion use
push for a dominion revemp
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    khan1000 wrote: »
    that what the dominion use
    push for a dominion revemp

    I'm more inclined to push for bug fixes than a Dominion revamp. Besides, completely unnecessary and a complete waste of resources to revamp them now.
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    there are some pointers than the dominion will be part of season 10 all i want is for the dominion to use the weapons they really had
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    khan1000 wrote: »
    there are some pointers than the dominion will be part of season 10 all i want is for the dominion to use the weapons they really had

    Rumors be rumors. Also, I've watched the entire DS9 series and not one mention of these "tetryon-plasma torpedoes" comes to mind. Care to show?
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    a3001 wrote: »
    Rumors be rumors. Also, I've watched the entire DS9 series and not one mention of these "tetryon-plasma torpedoes" comes to mind. Care to show?

    I've recently watched the main war arc, and I can remember three references to Dominion torpedoes:

    The Odyssey bridge crew referred to Dominion weapons as "phased polaron." In that appearance the Jem'hadar didn't have their forward beam but only had an attack that could be a cannon or torpedo.
    In the episode where one is lodged in the hull and Quark is forced to disarm it, it's simply referred to as a torpedo, but it is traced back to Karemma manufacture.
    The Cardassian weapons platforms have "plasma" torpedoes, not any special kind. It's the only time the Cardassians are said to have plasma torpedoes, two other episodes (both dealing with pre-Dominion War Cardassian weapons) credit them with having photon and quantum torpedoes.


    Memory Alpha, Beta, and Gamma have no mention of tetryon plasma torpedoes, and a google search for the term has only one result on the first page that has them together, and that's this thread. Above it there are STO wiki pages and a wikipedia list of Star Trek weapons that have all three words, but not together in one weapon.



    Edit: Also, regarding the "rumors be rumors" bit: as far as I know, the still not fully explained screenshot of Borg coming through the wormhole and a fourth item in the Dominion set are the source of those rumors. There's no official information on actual future storylines, and the scattered details that dataminers have gotten out of newly added maps and models buried in tribble patches point in a very not-Dominion direction.
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    star trek:the official starships collection
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  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    khan1000 wrote: »
    star trek:the official starships collection

    Ah, so, from a licensed product then.

    The same way CBS's license doesn't extend to other games or novels*, it doesn't extend to the little tech manuals Eaglemoss prints with their models any more than it would extend to the card text with the Attack Wing Jem'hadar ship. The card to mine declares it to have disruptor torpedoes.


    *-the limited novel reference in the game is special cases - CBS actually does own the Luna-class, and the Vesta actually took a long time and a lot of working with the artist to license.
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    i swear i've heard that the dominion use tetryon-plasma torpedos but i cant remember were
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  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    however the dominion may use these torpedoes but they don't use the ones they do now
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Like others, I haven't heard of teryon-plasma-torpedoes from a official source at all. But even if it were true: Please, not *another* damned plasma torpedo. I hate that weapon type. I'm more in favour of photon and quantum torpedoes. Tetryon as a modifier or gimmick could work, though. I'd like a tetryon photon/quantum torpedo with shield damage boni or subsystem disable effects.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Tetryon/transphasic could be interesting, damaging shields on the way through.

    I mean, maybe not good, but interesting at least.
  • khan1000khan1000 Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    the dominion use these in star trek armada 2 fleet ops
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I would like to see the following:

    plasma torp setup, with 2 proc's: DoT shield drain and stop ALL shield healing for 10 seconds, and system power drain (i.e. similar to polaron). The power drain might make it a little like the neutronic, but otherwise it's very different.
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    khan1000 wrote: »
    the dominion use these in star trek armada 2 fleet ops

    This is a fan created mod. The Dominion was absent from the base game, and not present as a main faction in the first.
  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    And the Borg used Gravity Torpedos/Missiles, and the Breen didn't use Polaron Weapons, and the Sovereign had 12 Phaser arrays, etc.

    Things tend to get abstracted in games for the sake of simplicity.


    With that said, I do think it would be interesting to see dual-type weapons.. like 'Quantum Phasers' that can scale with either Phaser or Quantum tactical consoles.
  • medalionemissarymedalionemissary Member Posts: 612 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I do know that the Dominion have used Plasma based weapons.

    I remember the episode where they were trying to steal the Breen Dampening weapon onto the stolen Jem'Hadar ship... Odo impersonated the female shapeshifter, and she made a comment about getting the new Plasma rifles.

    So they are at least somewhat acquianted with that.
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  • worgausworgaus Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    As much as I've always loved Star Trek, looking to it for any sort of technical consistency is a lost cause. Some episodes characters will say a species' ship is firing phasers, some times it's disruptors, sometimes it's tetryon, or god knows what else. About the only thing that became fairly consistent was that Romulans and Klingons fired green colored disruptors. Their torpedoes? They were some times green, sometimes red, so who knows.

    The point is, in the show, there was nothing special about their torpedoes. They weren't like the transphasic torpedoes that bypassed shields and 1-shotted Borg Cubes. They weren't tricobolt torpedoes that were so high yield they could not only destroy an alien starbase but create a subspace rift. They weren't chroniton that used temporal phasing to bypass shields. So just use quantum torpedoes, they look exactly like the torpedoes the Jem'hadar used and work precisely the same way.
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited February 2015
    a3001 wrote: »
    I'm more inclined to push for bug fixes than a Dominion revamp. Besides, completely unnecessary and a complete waste of resources to revamp them now.

    Well, a Cardassian Arc revamp *is* coming... likely not with Season 10, but it is coming, and it is needed. I think the skill tree revamp and additions to the R&D system will come first... along with a new fleet holding, Fleet T6 ships, and probably, a new reputation.

    hevach wrote: »
    Also, regarding the "rumors be rumors" bit: as far as I know, the still not fully explained screenshot of Borg coming through the wormhole and a fourth item in the Dominion set are the source of those rumors. There's no official information on actual future storylines, and the scattered details that dataminers have gotten out of newly added maps and models buried in tribble patches point in a very not-Dominion direction.

    That photo had to do with the giveaway Smirk did around the start of the anniversary. It had ZERO to do with any future story content. Sadly, the Dominion won't be a focus for this game for a little while. There are two directions the game story is heading, in the upcoming months:
    1. the Krenim
    2. Sela

    Not sure which will happen first, or if both will happen simultaneously... but, I would be shocked (BUT THRILLED) if we went after the Dominion.

    Oh, and as to the OP.... never heard of these torpedoes. :P
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  • a3001a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    khan1000 wrote: »
    star trek:the official starships collection

    If it ain't on Memory Alpha or the hard canon, there's no backing for it. Your argument for it is on shaky ground.
    Rejoice JJ Trek people....

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253

    Why are you not rejoicing?
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    hevach wrote: »
    This is a fan created mod. The Dominion was absent from the base game, and not present as a main faction in the first.

    Even if they were in the base game, it would still be non-canon. Canon is what happens on screen.
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