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johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
I like to take the time to say I for one hate the fact that i cant get one of my favorte shows in Star Treks bridge not only that but to have to by the pack just to get it but if any one has brought any of the ships before the Intrepid pack well you out of luck. They should give us a chance to by the Voyager bridge if we get the Pathfinder or one of the others. One more think i like to add is I think they need to do the Temporal Cold War as a story line with missions and give us Enterprise J. Just saying.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The better option would be to add the original Voyager interior and Season 7 Voyager interior to the C-Store. The interiors were always considered as a separate purchase since you could buy just the Pathfinder and the Pathfinder and Interior bundle. It might be possible to get Support to help you with getting the Intrepid Bundle.

    It is possible for the Enterprise-J to appear as a stationary ship in some mission where we might have a mission inside it, but the Enterprise-J will never be available as a playable ship due to its massive size. It might even be larger than DS9.
  • vegeta50024vegeta50024 Member Posts: 2,336 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    A lot of work went into the intrepid interior, that's why we can't actually get it without paying.

    As for the Enterprise J, it's been said that the ship is too big for it to be a playable ship.

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  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Here is the thing i been talking to support about this almost all day and was told i can not because I have one ship out of the bundle but i do not have the Pathfinder one, but i am being told there is no way i can get that. as for the Enterprise have you seen some of the ship in game the T6 Command ships are huge not to say the 5th Anniversary one as well and dont get me started on the one ship that is non playable at this time that you see in the Gamma area as well as on the War Game mission.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Was that ship acquired through the Veteran (Vice Admiral) ship token or did you purchase it through the C-Store? If it is through the Veteran ship token, then you could try purchasing the bundle on another Fed character. If you purchased it through the C-Store, then try to see if you can get a refund for the ship.
  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The C-Store but i dont know if i can counting i got it about 2 years ago
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Would like to see an option to buy the Intrepid interior as well. Already got the Pathfinder, but opted out of the interior option cause the bridge as in the episodes is not to my liking despite liking the rest of the ship, and was hoping for a Sovereign full interior (as in Nemesis) but seeing how that's about as likely to happen as a T6 BoP, I would settle for this interior now if only for the other parts of the ship such as personal quarters, ready room, and mess hall.
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  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Would like to see an option to buy the Intrepid interior as well. Already got the Pathfinder, but opted out of the interior option cause the bridge as in the episodes is not to my liking despite liking the rest of the ship, and was hoping for a Sovereign full interior (as in Nemesis) but seeing how that's about as likely to happen as a T6 BoP, I would settle for this interior now if only for the other parts of the ship such as personal quarters, ready room, and mess hall.

    now this i could agree with big time.
  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Here is the thing i been talking to support about this almost all day and was told i can not because I have one ship out of the bundle but i do not have the Pathfinder one, but i am being told there is no way i can get that. as for the Enterprise have you seen some of the ship in game the T6 Command ships are huge not to say the 5th Anniversary one as well and dont get me started on the one ship that is non playable at this time that you see in the Gamma area as well as on the War Game mission.

    The Enterprise J is ludicrously larger than any ship currently in game.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dark4blood wrote: »
    ^You can't skip three generations of Enterprises like that for convenience. That would leave out the G,H,I Enterprises, so no.

    Sure they can. Since any mission that has an Enterprise-J would have to be in some temporal mission.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    westmetals wrote: »
    Yeah... that was a bad business decision on their part and one that many players are hoping they will change.

    When the Pathfinder came out, there was three options to get it: a large bundle (with the Refit and Retrofit also included, as well as interiors; however, this is locked out if you already had the Refit and/or the Retrofit), a smaller bundle (which included just the Pathfinder and interiors, and as such was available to everyone - BUT was limited time only !), and a Pathfinder-only option (just added to the C-store like any other ship).

    Unfortunately, since the interiors aren't available separately, the only way to get them now is that large bundle, IF it is available to you. Horrible choice, Cryptic....

    There are one or two other interiors that are also bundle-only, but those should also be changed, in my opinion.

    But the thing with those other interiors being bundle only is that there is nothing preventing players from purchasing the bundle. Would be nice if they allow the interiors from those bundles to be standalone purchases, but not necessary unlike the Voyager interior.
  • jbmonroejbmonroe Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    A lot of work went into the intrepid interior, that's why we can't actually get it without paying.

    As for the Enterprise J, it's been said that the ship is too big for it to be a playable ship.

    I went looking for some numbers and although there's nothing canonical, the speculation is that the E-J is over 3000m long. That's a lot of ship.
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  • sarge4idsarge4id Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Sigh... For those of of you who are new to the game (2014-2015), The Ent-J was in the game for a very short time back between season 1 and 3 at some point, when Atari still ran the show. The ship modeler at the time created a rough Ent-J and put it in game, but it wasn't accessible to the general public. Like the Vesta, it was being built in spare time while cryptic/Atari were trying to cut through all the red tape that CBS put's up.

    Obviously CBS said "no" at the time and the ship was abandoned. It might even still be hidden in all the junk that's left over. For example: The 22nd Century MACO Rifle and camo uniform is in the game. Has been for a long time, but it was never released to the public. Proof of this is viewable on ESD in the Requisitions Room where the guns are on the wall racks. On the left racks, on the very top, next to the 29th Century Phaser Rifle, is a crude MACO rifle. They're most likely taunting us or hinting that more Enterprise era stuff will be released in the future.

    As for the Intrepid bridges, don't get me started. I've been a loyal lifer since open beta. Bought every retail box to get all the useless gimmick bonus items. I own every single ship in the game minus one of the risan ships and the breen carrier. In total, since PWE took over, I've spent almost $10,000 USD on Zen. On top of that, I don't get priority CS ticket response and they no longer give out the vet rewards like they used too. Most lifer's can say "they got my money and now they don't care about me anymore." On the other hand, they got my money then and they've gotten well over 13K since launch. I'm not trying to brag here, but to make a point. That point being that their most loyal, die hard, and biggest money sink players are royally pissed about this intrepid bridge delima.

    Some of us are going to stop buying zen indefinitely until they put those bridges on the C-Store. That's a lot of money per month that they will be out of until they rectify this issue. Those of you who have been here since launch and even after know what you have had to put up with. The lack of competent management, content drought, game balance issues, unfulfilled promises, the list goes on. When PWE took over, we got the Fleet Starbases very fast. Since PWE took over we've gotten more content now then we got since launch. They know how to do things, but I want to know who was smoking what when they made this decision, because I want to make sure I stay as far away from it as possible.

    I ask you all to try to limit or stop buying Zen from PWE until they meet our expectations. People made enough noise about the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship that they brought it back again. They need to be made aware of how much profit they are losing by not putting those bridges up. They could have made 5 to 6 digit figures by now if they put them up and left them up when they first did. Some of you are willing to buy the full bundle pack for those bridges, and we've waited after 5 years of promises for them to arrive.

    Cryptic, give us the bridges soon or start losing a lot of money. We are not amused.
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sarge4id wrote: »
    Sigh... For those of of you who are new to the game (2014-2015), The Ent-J was in the game for a very short time back between season 1 and 3 at some point, when Atari still ran the show. The ship modeler at the time created a rough Ent-J and put it in game, but it wasn't accessible to the general public. Like the Vesta, I was being built in spare time while cryptic/Atari were trying to cut through all the red tape that CBS put's up

    I've been here since nearly the beginning, and I don't recall that ever happening. Pics or it didn't happen. I specifically recall dStahl saying CBS had nothing to do with the decision not to add it to game, and everything to do with how game breakingly big it is.
  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2015
    westmetals wrote: »
    a smaller bundle (which included just the Pathfinder and interiors, and as such was available to everyone - BUT was limited time only !), a

    True, and it should have been an instabuy for any trekker. This was at launch of DR.

    (Anyway, Cryptic has a tendency to make some bundles limited time only and said bundles usually must-haves. I've been observing this trend in all of their games. Basically you can't leave their games unattended if you want the most bang for you Zen lol.)
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  • sarge4idsarge4id Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    hravik wrote: »
    I've been here since nearly the beginning, and I don't recall that ever happening. Pics or it didn't happen. I specifically recall dStahl saying CBS had nothing to do with the decision not to add it to game, and everything to do with how game breakingly big it is.

    Since I typed this, I've been scouring the web and STO forum archives for the screenshots and posts about it. IIRC, the screenshots were leaked of the ship, which didn't appear to be any bigger then the scimitar. This wasn't the only time content has leaked out before release. I remember a ship leaking out in the Foundry by accident. A hotfix was done to remove it. But, as usual, the J we saw was unrefined and was stylized like the Galaxy variants (Envoy, etc), it wasn't something to really brag about, but the though of it being implemented excited those of us who saw the post before it conveniently disappeared. Several players had made reposts of the screenshots and I was hoping I would be able to find one in the archives. You're probably right about it not being CBS, but it was so long ago and I don't recall the fine details about it. Just that it was abandoned and discretely removed. Those screenshots are something I will bet my account on! I remember them like it was yesterday. The J and the sneak peak screen shots of the defiant's quad cannons are two thing's I will never forget. I prayed that they would put the quads in, and I didn't care if they sucked. But yes, Craig Zinc wanted to put it and V'Ger in the game. Dan Stahl wanted V'Ger as well, and yes, it all had to do with size he said in a Priority One podcast interview. Both vessels are huge. I believe V'ger's cloud was 32au's wide? That's 32 times the distance from the earth to the sun. When the Sector Red Alert borg invasions began. They put in the borg command ships which we nicknamed "B'ger." It was the closest attempt that cryptic could make at the time. They most likely got the idea to add B'ger/V'ger to the borg from the game Star Trek: Legacy, which tells a story that the planet of machines that found V'ger were actually the borg.

    The borg made mini versions of it and used them as invasion command ships for us to fight in STO. Since the dyson sphere entered the game, cryptic has put some pretty big ships in game. The voth city ship for example. You do a death star trench run down the dorsal side of it, then disable some things on the outside, then enter the ship like Kirk entered V'ger, then destroy it from the inside. It is theoretically plausible as some have already mentioned that an Ent-J or V-ger could be done in a similar way, though it would have to be a temporal mission or series since we still have 3 letters to go until J.

    The temporal cold war is a good idea someone mentioned. The J could either be sent back to the current century to prevent something, or we could be sent to the future to assist the J. Maybe even fight the sphere builders? From the short battle scene shown in the Enterprise episode featuring the J, several starfleet ships including a prometheus-class mvam and dauntless-class experimental science vessel are fighting it out with the builders, and are currently in service this century. A good explanation would be required on why a 25th century antique starship could possible help a 31st century, city-sized, generational star ship capable of traveling to other galaxies (IIRC), but the explanation could reside in the fact that those two ships are seen in that century and it's plausible that the Federation (and allies) took such heavy losses that it brought ships back in time to their century to help fight the battle. Actually, that would be a great excuse! As big and powerful as the J will be, the ship still had a violent shake in the scene when it was hit presumably by a builder weapon of some kind. A ship of the J's size and mass would require an immensely powerful weapon to rock the entire ship. Heck, we might even get to fly into sphere's and destroy their power cores in order to shut down the anomaly they project.
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    A lot of work went into the intrepid interior, that's why we can't actually get it without paying.

    As for the Enterprise J, it's been said that the ship is too big for it to be a playable ship.

    Not getting it without paying is understandable. They need another way to buy it though because it's literally impossible for some people to buy since it disappears from the C-Store if you buy the individual ships.

    The Enterprise-J? I agree with that UNLESS we're going to see content based around playable starbases. In that case, I could see something LIKE the Enterprise-J being a starbase that can move as its special feature.

    As it stands, it seems to me like a starbase could be playable if you regard it as an extreme form of a carrier. 0 turnrate. 8-10 hangar bays, maybe a camera that moves while the base remains stationary for more Starcraft style play. Only one player could play the starbase per encounter mind you.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sarge4id wrote: »
    Sigh... For those of of you who are new to the game (2014-2015), The Ent-J was in the game for a very short time back between season 1 and 3 at some point, when Atari still ran the show. The ship modeler at the time created a rough Ent-J and put it in game, but it wasn't accessible to the general public. Like the Vesta, it was being built in spare time while cryptic/Atari were trying to cut through all the red tape that CBS put's up.

    Obviously CBS said "no" at the time and the ship was abandoned. It might even still be hidden in all the junk that's left over. For example: The 22nd Century MACO Rifle and camo uniform is in the game. Has been for a long time, but it was never released to the public. Proof of this is viewable on ESD in the Requisitions Room where the guns are on the wall racks. On the left racks, on the very top, next to the 29th Century Phaser Rifle, is a crude MACO rifle. They're most likely taunting us or hinting that more Enterprise era stuff will be released in the future.

    As for the MACO stuff, I think that's been delayed pending various costume revamps as well as decisions about how to handle costumes since my understanding is that none of the release methods for them has been very profitable.

    The Klingon base costumes are getting a major overhaul next to bring them more into line with the costumes used elsewhere in the game.
  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    sarge4id wrote: »

    The borg made mini versions of it and used them as invasion command ships for us to fight in STO. Since the dyson sphere entered the game, cryptic has put some pretty big ships in game. The voth city ship for example. You do a death star trench run down the dorsal side of it, then disable some things on the outside, then enter the ship like Kirk entered V'ger, then destroy it from the inside. It is theoretically plausible as some have already mentioned that an Ent-J or V-ger could be done in a similar way, though it would have to be a temporal mission or series since we still have 3 letters to go until J.

    The temporal cold war is a good idea someone mentioned. The J could either be sent back to the current century to prevent something, or we could be sent to the future to assist the J. Maybe even fight the sphere builders? From the short battle scene shown in the Enterprise episode featuring the J, several starfleet ships including a prometheus-class mvam and dauntless-class experimental science vessel are fighting it out with the builders, and are currently in service this century. A good explanation would be required on why a 25th century antique starship could possible help a 31st century, city-sized, generational star ship capable of traveling to other galaxies (IIRC), but the explanation could reside in the fact that those two ships are seen in that century and it's plausible that the Federation (and allies) took such heavy losses that it brought ships back in time to their century to help fight the battle. Actually, that would be a great excuse! As big and powerful as the J will be, the ship still had a violent shake in the scene when it was hit presumably by a builder weapon of some kind. A ship of the J's size and mass would require an immensely powerful weapon to rock the entire ship. Heck, we might even get to fly into sphere's and destroy their power cores in order to shut down the anomaly they project.

    You my friend just saw everything i did in that Show with the Cold War and would love to see more of this
  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    dark4blood wrote: »
    ^You can't skip three generations of Enterprises like that for convenience. That would leave out the G,H,I Enterprises, so no.


    Sadly you can Temporal Cold War


    They did in the show. They went from NX Enterprise to J in just one Season the at the end of the show was on the Enterprise D so yes they can do it just not call it the J unless its something with Temporal Cold War
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    if the size of the ent-j really is based on this

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    then I can see it going as a playable ship...but only for a thousand bucks, and with some pretty nifty abilities. this is to curb the numbers.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 7,058 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    westmetals wrote: »
    Yeah... that was a bad business decision on their part and one that many players are hoping they will change.

    When the Pathfinder came out, there was three options to get it: a large bundle (with the Refit and Retrofit also included, as well as interiors; however, this is locked out if you already had the Refit and/or the Retrofit), a smaller bundle (which included just the Pathfinder and interiors, and as such was available to everyone - BUT was limited time only !), and a Pathfinder-only option (just added to the C-store like any other ship).

    Unfortunately, since the interiors aren't available separately, the only way to get them now is that large bundle, IF it is available to you. Horrible choice, Cryptic....

    There are one or two other interiors that are also bundle-only, but those should also be changed, in my opinion.

    At the very least they should make the bundle purchasable even if you already own part of it ... i mean I'd understand the restriction if everything could be bought separately, but with some exclusive options available in the bundle they should let you do it.

    Luckily i haven't bought anything intrepid yet, so i can get it for my Sci after i get her to 50 this weekend, but i feel your pain.
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  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    At the very least they should make the bundle purchasable even if you already own part of it ... i mean I'd understand the restriction if everything could be bought separately, but with some exclusive options available in the bundle they should let you do it.

    Luckily i haven't bought anything intrepid yet, so i can get it for my Sci after i get her to 50 this weekend, but i feel your pain.

    the thing is i got one of the ships years ago and was going to buy the other now i dont know i might wait and see if it might be in the delta rising pack
  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    ok so they came out with a DS9, TSO and ENTERPRISE ERA bundles why not a VOYAGER ERA bundle that gives you the ships and the bridge the ship different skins and something only from that time frame like that did with the others
  • cecil08cecil08 Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The J is so hideous and stupid that I hope it gets reconned out of existence.

    I think Doug Drexler is very talented but the J is just... ridiculous.
    hravik wrote: »
    I've been here since nearly the beginning, and I don't recall that ever happening. Pics or it didn't happen. I specifically recall dStahl saying CBS had nothing to do with the decision not to add it to game, and everything to do with how game breakingly big it is.

    I have to second this. I've been in this game since day one and on the forums since way before it launched. I've never seen or heard about this.
  • oldravenman3025oldravenman3025 Member Posts: 1,892 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    You'll never see a playable J in STO as it currently stands. Damned thing is over TWICE the size of the Jupiter Class, Starfleet's current largest. And that's only in calculated overall length, with the future Enterprise's hellacious volume not taken into account.
  • sarge4idsarge4id Member Posts: 79 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    cecil08 wrote: »
    The J is so hideous and stupid that I hope it gets reconned out of existence.

    I think Doug Drexler is very talented but the J is just... ridiculous.



    I have to second this. I've been in this game since day one and on the forums since way before it launched. I've never seen or heard about this.

    I know, I know. I've still been looking for any screenshots that still exist of it. It was back when Atari was running the show and we had the C-Store forum section to post requests and talk about related stuff. There was a post by someone asking for the J and had a picture of it linked in their post so we could see what it looked like. They provided some minimal specs in the post but admitted that it couldn't be too scale in game because it's too damn big. People talked about it just like we do in every J thread. How it's not possible, too big, etc. On one of the last posts before the thread disappeared, someone posted a few screenshots of a rough in game enterprise j with the old ugly esd in the back ground.

    The nacelles weren't exactly canon and the pylons were not as spindly but it had a very wide oval saucer that's diameter was almost as wide as the width of the scimitar from wing tip to tip. Whoever took the screenshots had the old sovereign-class ship next to it for reference. The sovereign still had the bright blue deflector so this was before they did the intrepid, galaxy, sovereign, etc. canon updates. I too used to be on the forums every day for at least +3 hours a day trying to find as much stuff to keep updated as possible. And things still slipped between the cracks. At the time, I was an information source because I used to know two dev's that worked at cryptic and our former community manager branflakes was my superior officer in Stonewall Fleet. He was leader of the Crafting Corps, a page on our website where people could shop for crafted items, make an order, and then us crafters would craft it and mail it to them. They would deposit the cost into the feet bank.

    Branflakes dream was to work for Cryptic and he eventually got his wish. He had a personal tour of their HQ once and had to sign NDA's about what he saw there. In battle group omega, down below most of the federation ships is a very small group of ships. This was homage to Stonewall Fleet leaders. Brandon always wanted a MVAM version of the prometheus, so the hephaestus variant is named after him. And it did eventually get released. I don't know if the ships are still there or not.

    The two dev's were Gozer the level designer, and Mhighison lead character designer. Matt used to come in game and play hide and seek games with us. His character was a brown Caitian (that he modeled), that had red shorts and black boots, and he ran around with one of the low rank phasers and liked to crouch a lot behind consoles, half walls, and potted plants, lol. My cousin in california married a guy named Jason Porter who is also a 3d modeler and animator and has done a a few games and a few commercials, one of which appeared on the super bowl, IIRC. Jason and Matt were friends and met at the same art school. Gozer was...a talented level designer and did a good job designing levels. That's all I wish to say about him. Like I will say later on, the rep system came right on in soon after he left and maps no longer dropped STF gear pieces.

    Branflakes got me and two others from our fleet onto a special test team for the new STF's. When they were separated into Ground and Space. The dev that made the stf's, Gozer also made some of the remastered missions such as the one where the klingon flies a shuttle into the Doomsday Machine. He also did the Romulan Episodes and probably new romulus too. I remember being so excited to be included in this test group with Gozer's fleet, Risa Squadron. Risa's leader is named Tosk. You probably are familiar with Tosk of Borg in the ground stf. There is also a suliban doff named Tosk although I can't confirm it's named after the same person. The NPC Commander Roxy who is still in the old Omega room on DS9 is named after Roxy, one if Risa's members. Both were good people and skilled STF'ers. Gozer promoted us on the test server to max level, gave us a million credits, and a bunch of dil. He made us run Normal and Advanced stf's with only white mk x gear to see if the poorest players could have a chance without having to spend millions buying elite gear. After Gozer left for a better job, the reputation system flew into place and it wasn't by coincidence either. That's a whole nother story in it's self! We were called "Gozer's Minions" and had a hidden forum called Red Squad in which we posted feed back.

    I made some people unhappy when I reported to Gozer that sub nuking the transwarp gate in infected basically shut it's defenses and shields down. It could be destroyed with out having to destroy the two emitters on both sides. This was a "good bug" that I was supposed to not mention so we could have an advantage of farming gear. We also knew about places in the ground maps where you could go and kill bosses with out them firing a shot at you. But other players found these places and sent in bug reports. Most of all I remember that when Gozer's klingon did accompany us on stf's he had to be rez'ed all the time, lol.

    Sorry I got off topic. Haven't given thought to those memories in a long time. Since PWE took over, that part of STO is now dead and in the past. It was the time of "rebirth" as the Kobali so kindly put it. So, this J thing was a long, long time ago and as I said it wasn't up for long and the forums it was in was plagued with ship requests and discussions. You must have missed it because I know if you had seen it you would still remember. Keep in mind that most of the players from beta, launch, season 1 aren't playing anymore. My friends list was full of people from season 1 and 2. By season 6, all but maybe 10 of them had quit playing.

    It's plausible that the reason you haven't heard it being talked about before is that the people that did chance upon the thread were either not friends or acquaintances of yours, lived only on DS9 or K7 or ESD, or if they did discuss it you were absent at the time. I really don't know how else to explain it. This is the first time I've talked about any of this in a very long time. It's all no longer relevant as is my ties to dev's and other sources as well. I no longer get insider info so I no longer sell it to players that want to be the one to tell their fleets about upcoming content and win the affection and love of their fleet mates, lol. Plus I was friends with branflakes when he ran the Priority One podcast so I got limited access to things zinc and stahl said "off the record" to him.

    For a very long time I avoided the forums because I would get into arguments and get angry and flame or troll. The same reason I turn off Zone chat when people start talking about politics, religion, or war. I really do wish I could find a screenshot or even the original post hidden away somewhere, but you're just gonna have to take my word for it. I know what I saw because it was so awesome looking at the time that I prayed it would be put in game. At the time I remember people talking about CBS and their red tape causing problems with things. That's probably where I got that from in my original post about this. I admit I have a problem with remembering exact words and phrases and stuff. But my audio and visual memory is very good. I still remember conversation from guild mates on ventrilo from Age of Conan, the game I played before I found out about STO so you just got to believe me on this one.

    The J could exist as a very large pilot able ship that could act as a command ship for other ships in the vicinity. It would probably be team oriented and have abilities that would enhance team efficiency and defense. The down side is that it could be slow or have a very slow turn rate making it an easy target for an organized strike force. The players would have to defend their command ship. Like someone mentioned it could be used as a static fleet starship. it could be included in fleet actions as a computer controlled slow moving ship we have to defend from sphere builders. If they can get the J into the game, even as a static or computer controlled ship in a mission, that opens a window of hope of it becoming a playable ship. Look at the Jupiter Dreadnought and the Typhoon Battleship. Some of us have been wanting them since season 1 and now they are finally going to put them in as playable ships.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    starkaos wrote: »
    It might even be larger than DS9.

    In fairness, a Galaxy-class is almost as large as DS9 in mass...

    It's just a mining station after all.
    Don't look silly... Don't call it the "Z-Store/Zen Store"...
    Let me put the rumors to rest: it's definitely still the C-Store (Cryptic Store) It just takes ZEN.
    Like Duty Officers? Support effords to gather ideas
  • johnathan180johnathan180 Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    the Rom ships are bigger the a Galaxy Class let all the Simatar classes
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