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1 spec point for free per week, pls cryptic add it

czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
it will be lvl independent, so yes, even lvl 1 char will get them....still will be unable to use them until he reach lvl50+ so no harm here. and of yourse - once you hit roof on spec point - no longer for free :).

it is realy simple and dont brake a game, since pro players which earn 1 spec point per day - for them it will dont change much, while for all others which earn 0-2 per week it will be gret help.
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,568 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    It would break something actually, sales of XP boosters in the Z store. Think about it. ;)
    Green people don't have to be.... little.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    They could just reduce the amount of XP it takes to earn a spec point by about 90% but cap them at one per 20 hours. Which would be so much friendlier to multi-character players than the current spec system.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nimbull wrote: »
    It would break something actually, sales of XP boosters in the Z store.

    In that sense it would really brake the game. :P
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  • stohenrikstohenrik Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    A "daily" XP bonus around 1/10th of the xp required to gain a point would work as well.

    And let's not drag the xp boosters into this - those are quite literally a drop in a pint-sized glass of water, and absolutely useless for anything.
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nimbull wrote: »
    It would break something actually, sales of XP boosters in the Z store. Think about it. ;)

    and which i*iot is buing them ?? 1k or 10k bonus dont change anyting when you have to grind hunerts :).
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    czertik123 wrote: »
    and which i*iot is buing them ?? 1k or 10k bonus dont change anyting when you have to grind hunerts :).

    People who buy XP boosters deserve to have 1 Spec point per week *taken away* from them! :P
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  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    People who buy XP boosters deserve to have 1 Spec point per week *taken away* from them! :P

    hahahhaaahhahha, but hey who else will pay for servers for you ?
  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I have said many times before, if gold/LTS would allow me to bypass all grind I'd gladly pay. So this idea, while not exactly what I'd want, it would be a step in the right direction.

    But they don't want new LTS and I don't even think they want gold subs. They want F2P people that say, "that looks cool, let me pay $120 for it". And I say bless the idiots, they pay for me to play for free.
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    well, i investeted cash worth of 78k zen in game and i REALY dislike which way game post dr is taking - more grind, more grind and even more annoing grind.

    which grind i have to take first ? dill one to pay for insane dill sinks intorudec in game ? ec grind to lessen dill needed by buing soem stuff from market ? command points grind ? rep grinds ?

    i REALY dont want to know which new type of gridn they have in works.
  • thatcursedwolfthatcursedwolf Member Posts: 1,617 Arc User
    edited February 2015
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  • bobtheskull99bobtheskull99 Member Posts: 706 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    they have this already....its called Doffing :P
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    czertik123 wrote: »
    well, i investeted cash worth of 78k zen in game and i REALY dislike which way game post dr is taking - more grind, more grind and even more annoing grind.

    which grind i have to take first ? dill one to pay for insane dill sinks intorudec in game ? ec grind to lessen dill needed by buing soem stuff from market ? command points grind ? rep grinds ?

    i REALY dont want to know which new type of gridn they have in works.

    You spent cash worth 78k Zen. That means you spend over seven hundred dollars on Star Trek Online.

    This is not trolling or flaming, but I genuinely don't understand why anyone would do this. These are 14 full AAA-games (I'm not making non-computer-game related comparisions as they are pointless). What kind of value did STO offer for that? I mean the game had literally not that much development since launch. Yes, yes, a lot changed and blah, but essentially we got nothing new that would qualify as the equivalent of even one full game title, I will grant three expansions at maybe 20-30 dollars each (since launch which could be summed up as one full game in value, but from launch since now I can't see enough change that would be akin to "STO 2"). And if you had paid monthly subscriptions based on your join date I will add another 150 bucks to the mix.

    Again, please don't get me wrong. This is neither trolling nor mocking you nor is it jeleausy because you can spend many moneyz on a game. This is genuine curiosity and, I admit it, inability to comprehend why someone would spend so much money worth a lot of full games on STO (or read "a single game" if you wish).
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    AAAA games? as rated by who?

    Honestly I avoid AAA games because they don't interest me.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    AAAA games? as rated by who?

    Honestly I avoid AAA games because they don't interest me.

    Sure, then ignore the AAA (I think it's a turn used to reflect the production value or something). I just meant 50-60 dollar games made by not-independent developers and something around 20 hours worth of gameplay not counting replayability and such.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Sure, then ignore the AAA (I think it's a turn used to reflect the production value or something). I just meant 50-60 dollar games made by not-independent developers and something around 20 hours worth of gameplay not counting replayability and such.
    To me, 20 hours of gameplay means the game is short and thus boring.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    To me, 20 hours of gameplay means the game is short and thus boring.

    But you get my point, don't you? Why do you need to pick apart single terms?

    Then replace the "AAA" game with a "Bethesda game". Those offer 100-ish hours of gameplay and endless mod support. My point doesn't change :D
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • crusader0007crusader0007 Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    czertik123 wrote: »
    it will be lvl independent, so yes, even lvl 1 char will get them....still will be unable to use them until he reach lvl50+ so no harm here. and of yourse - once you hit roof on spec point - no longer for free :).

    it is realy simple and dont brake a game, since pro players which earn 1 spec point per day - for them it will dont change much, while for all others which earn 0-2 per week it will be gret help.

    This is insane and don't think Cryptic would allow it unless tie to some SPEC boost in the C store or a heavy promo week :D
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    You spent cash worth 78k Zen. That means you spend over seven hundred dollars on Star Trek Online.

    This is not trolling or flaming, but I genuinely don't understand why anyone would do this. These are 14 full AAA-games (I'm not making non-computer-game related comparisions as they are pointless). What kind of value did STO offer for that? I mean the game had literally not that much development since launch. Yes, yes, a lot changed and blah, but essentially we got nothing new that would qualify as the equivalent of even one full game title, I will grant three expansions at maybe 20-30 dollars each (since launch which could be summed up as one full game in value, but from launch since now I can't see enough change that would be akin to "STO 2"). And if you had paid monthly subscriptions based on your join date I will add another 150 bucks to the mix.

    Again, please don't get me wrong. This is neither trolling nor mocking you nor is it jeleausy because you can spend many moneyz on a game. This is genuine curiosity and, I admit it, inability to comprehend why someone would spend so much money worth a lot of full games on STO (or read "a single game" if you wish).

    well, yes, because i spend so much time and money on game, i realy dislike way how it is going. yes, it should be spend on aaa-title games, but which ones ? like assaisn creed series which one game is fisnihed in say 30h with no replay value ? (i didnt played this game, but i want to just poin it out, while i played whitcher series and these games have nice replay values). well what aaa-game have long lasting replay value ? civilization with different nations ? well you playd 2 or 3 and you played all , since diferences in nations are minimal.

    and remeber for you to play mmo for free another one must spend money FOR BOOTH OF YOU (if he spend it only for himself, it will be payed mmo or no mmo at all).
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    That would actually be a nice subscription (and lifetime) perk and probably they'd make more money there then with the boost.
    But absolutely necessary? Nope.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    But you get my point, don't you? Why do you need to pick apart single terms?

    Then replace the "AAA" game with a "Bethesda game". Those offer 100-ish hours of gameplay and endless mod support. My point doesn't change :D
    Bethesda? don't they make mostly console games? *looks to see if I've ever played one of their games*

    I've played Star Trek: Conquest.... it was fun for about a week and then I lost interest. It had a story that was spray painted on, simplistic combat, no randomization, and little replay value.

    If that's your idea of a AAA game I'm not impressed.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Bethesda? don't they make mostly console games? *looks to see if I've ever played one of their games*

    I've played Star Trek: Conquest.... it was fun for about a week and then I lost interest. It had a story that was spray painted on, simplistic combat, no randomization, and little replay value.

    If that's your idea of a AAA game I'm not impressed.

    Seriously, the elder scrolls oblivion and skyrim or fallout 3 and new vegas for example? But even if not, it doesnt matter at all for the sake of the argument. Just get rid of that AAA in my post and just put "full game" there, its completely irrelevant which game in particular.

    If you just make a point like "one can get 10 games worth of enjoyment out of sto" thats fine though, I get that. It's still incomprehensible for me but that would be a valid opinion. Just say so and dont harp on those three letters :D
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Seriously, the elder scrolls oblivion and skyrim or fallout 3 and new vegas for example? But even if not, it doesnt matter at all for the sake of the argument. Just get rid of that AAA in my post and just put "full game" there, its completely irrelevant which game in particular.

    If you just make a point like "one can get 10 games worth of enjoyment out of sto" thats fine though, I get that. It's still incomprehensible for me but that would be a valid opinion. Just say so and dont harp on those three letters :D
    I've never played any of those, they didn't really interest me.

    Also, I don't like learning to play a new game every few months. To me it's a lot more fun when I can just pick up the game and play
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  • aelogriaaelogria Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nimbull wrote: »
    It would break something actually, sales of XP boosters in the Z store. Think about it. ;)

    People buy those useless things? They dont even boost you a 1/10th of a level. Its the most un-efficient thing to buy in the C-Store. :)

    Maybe they could make it a week long cooldown DOFF mission or something. I would be happy with that. It could be a contact in the delta quadrant or something.



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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    nimbull wrote: »
    It would break something actually, sales of XP boosters in the Z store. Think about it. ;)

    I don't think those were really designed for the spec point system and I'd be surprised if they're a big revenue source given the value. I can accept that a lot of people buy them once. I think they're largely there so that Cryptic can claim an approximate monetary value for lockbox contents that makes them "not a lottery".

    Here's my take:

    Offer XP boost with Gold. (You'll cut down on complaints.)

    Yes, that's a big giveaway to lifers but lifers should be proven spenders.

    Break subs down into weekly.

    $4-5 a week to snag the impulse spenders.
    $15 a month bulk purchase.

    I wouldn't make it necessarily free each week but I'd offer 3x XP/spec points for the first level each week. The bonus gets reapplied every week. (For people who like slow leveling, maybe just make it a simple hand-in in game to get the boost applied.)
  • risian4risian4 Member Posts: 3,711 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    (significant) reduction of spec experience points needed, yes.
    Giving players spec points, no. That's just lazy.

    This system is designed to give people something to work on when they're done levelling. It's a nice little extra thingy but you should have to do something for it.
  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Actually, what would work in this regards is....


    A weekly lockout dungeon thing, like many other mmos do,

    Create some sort of huge epic ground or space pve queue that is solely designed to reward 1 spec point but set it so you can only get the 1 point once per week, you can run it multiple times during the week but it only gives you the 1 point each 7 day period..


    Only reason I dare suggest this is due to the fact everything is seems daily or weekly lockout already.
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  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    bunansa wrote: »
    Actually, what would work in this regards is....


    A weekly lockout dungeon thing, like many other mmos do,

    Create some sort of huge epic ground or space pve queue that is solely designed to reward 1 spec point but set it so you can only get the 1 point once per week, you can run it multiple times during the week but it only gives you the 1 point each 7 day period..
    .

    Neat idea...also LOVE your avatar :P
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  • nickodaemusnickodaemus Member Posts: 711 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Maybe I'm playing more than you, but I generally DO get 1 a week per character from doffing & gettting my daily dil quota. I run Argala (advanced) only if I'm mastering a ship or close on getting a point & I want to knock it out. I am playing 3 characters, but that's all I've ever had. All are now 60, and have been for some time. The rest of the time, it's STF's on normal or advanced, but never elite.

    This isn't to say I like the status quo - quite the oppoite. The dil nerf(s) have me working steady to keep up, and the points are actually kind of incidental...at least to my playstyle.

    Dil grinding is what I find to be unbalanced these days.

    :(
  • czertik123czertik123 Member Posts: 1,122 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    risian4 wrote: »
    (significant) reduction of spec experience points needed, yes.
    Giving players spec points, no. That's just lazy.

    well, if you want to take this way - how is reduction on needed exp different fron another version of lazynes ?
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