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STO has lost it's appeal, for me anyway. And I know several other players who have completely stopped playing due to the frustrations of the bugs that just continue to go unfixed.
Change maps, all boffs removed from stations, click on the "Loadouts" tab and load your SAVED loadout and it makes it worse!! Why? Because not only did my boffs get removed from station without my doing so but also EVERY SINGLE SKILL HAS CHANGED TO SKILLS I WAS NOT USING!!! WTF????
Seriously, WTF????
Devs say "well we can't fix it because we can't duplicate the issue", whatever...get a freakin' clue....
have your devs actually play the game, you'll duplicate the bugs within a couple of hours or less!!
Rant off and soon STO off too!
Change maps, all boffs removed from stations, click on the "Loadouts" tab and load your SAVED loadout and it makes it worse!! Why? Because not only did my boffs get removed from station without my doing so but also EVERY SINGLE SKILL HAS CHANGED TO SKILLS I WAS NOT USING!!! WTF????
Seriously, WTF????
Devs say "well we can't fix it because we can't duplicate the issue", whatever...get a freakin' clue....
have your devs actually play the game, you'll duplicate the bugs within a couple of hours or less!!
Rant off and soon STO off too!
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Started a STF advance other day, bloody hell they nerf the dps again cant kill anything, no just had A/P weapons & Plasma fleet tac cons, felt like a right prat.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think a more radical solution is required. The devs need to remove loadouts altogether and keep them on the test servers until they can definitively fix the boff loadout removal issue. Stop making us suffer with your untested systems.
The devs did the same thing with exploration clusters and mirror universe because they thought they were inadequate and needed to be revamped so show some consistency and remove loadoats as well.
This whole Loadout saving TRIBBLE started because I assume people wanted an easy way to switch loadouts......well, how'd that work out for ya?
If I have to go to a ship yard in order to change my loadout and such then so be it, if it fixes this issue. I would much rather do that and spend 5 - 10 minutes making the changes over warping into battle with no boffs on station and using the wrong skills after being put back on station.
Free Tibet!
And I will cry tears of joy when I can finally warp into an stf and not have to worry about my boff abilities in my tray disappearing again.
As the other poster said, it would only be temporary.
I agree with you. It's now even more fun after this Boff Training revamp because not only do Boffs disappear from the loadout, but - if they are trained in more than one skill per rank slot - when you reload them they just slot any random ability.
It's so much fun! Yay!
Free Tibet!
And how would you feel if something you paid for on the C-store and was working fine for you was temporarily removed because other players were having a problem with it?
Isn't there a workaround for bringing back the skills they were originally trained in?
The fun part is it'll eventually hit them too. Releasing half baked solutions to problems, which in turn create more problems doesn't help. The great part is it would be temporary so basically as with everything where someone who's having it great vs someone who's not, sometimes to fix the problem the whole thing needs to be shutdown and restarted.
For instance don't criticise people who are having difficulty just because you aren't.
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1359481
The problem is that I have to do it after warping into battle and sometimes just because I changed maps.....this issues was getting old months ago, it's now just making me want to stop playing. And some of the "Paying" players are having the same issues so, I'm happy for those of you that aren't, but it's not my fault that many of us are having this issue.
I buy a car. I take it home and it breaks down once a day.
Does the car dealership say:
A) We will fix it
or
Hmm?
Free Tibet!
change a boff in any way
train a boff but don't move him on the ship just add a new skill
move a weapon
upgrade anything
touch anything about your boffs and ship
.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BAM everything gets scrambled.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
do ground ..,.,change traits
do space change traits
change spec schools
Traits and loadouts spec schools are the main game now ,. Not the content we are trying to play
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
The problem with it being temporary is that it could take a year to fix. After all, it took a year for us to get Secondary Deflectors on other science ships after they were first introduced. Therefore, players would not have access to something they purchased for a year. If something was in the repair shop for a year, then you wouldn't use that business again.
Airline companies do it all of the time and hand out vouchers to refund customers. Cryptic could do the same, problem solved. Remember, this isn't just some tiny problem effecting 1% of the player base; it's a problem effecting a majority of the player base that needs to be fixed before this game bleeds out more players. I'm especially concerned that this issue may drive away new players that get so frustrated with it that they rage quit and never come back again.
Also, this is a digital product and we technically have no right over property here. They can modify or remove anything they'd like to and the TOS says they can. The TOS arguement works both ways.
so I believe the real bugs are the maps transition problem
+ and all other bugs around
ya today STO = No Fun Scenario at all !!
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___Map transistion from ground to space
___All boff power icons gone
___Go to stations tab
___No boffs slotted
___Go back to loadout sub-tab of ship status
___Click to load saved loadout
___Nothing happens
___Go back to stations tab
___Loop for all boffs in current setup
____{
_____Click to select boff into correct station
_____Most if not all boffs now do not have their 'desired/trainined' skills selected but have reverted to defaults
_____Select boff to start changing abilities to the ones I want
_____Select Ensign power and select desired power
_____Lieutenant power has now become something impossible (e.g. GW3 or CSV3) and LtC/Cmd slots are now blank and nothing can be re-selected
_____Do while selecting boff ensign skill messes up all higher level skills
______{
________Select boff station that is now messed up and select 'no boff' to clear station
________Reselect original boff
________Select Ensign power and select desired power
______}
_____Select Lt and higher level powers
____}
__Drag each and every power from the power window onto the power tray
__Go to loadout sub-tab on ship status screen
__Re-save loadout (totally pointless step but I feel like I should do this)
__Play the game/content I have queued for
_}
NOTE: this happens about 1 in 3 map transitions. The red section is caused by the new boff training system. All in all it takes between 5 and 10 minutes to complete this loop and I am a long serving player - I can't think what poor newer players are thinking....
...#LLAP...
"You don't have to do something again and again and again repetitive that doesn't have much challange, that's just a general good gameplay thing."
So you think it is fine for airline companies to give vouchers? There is a reason why people are leaving at a particular time and getting a voucher doesn't compensate for the pain of missing out on a flight and whatever that entails. Just because you are fine with getting a credit for Cryptic removing the use of some C-store item doesn't mean everyone else is. If Cryptic removed some C-store item, then it would be bad PR and faulty loadouts doesn't even come close to the problems that this will cause.
So 90% of the playerbase effected by this should continually suffer because 10% of the playerbase absolutely needs loudouts? How is that reasoning not flawed? The worst that could happen is a few players rage for a little while and then get refunds. On the other hand, the majority of us effected by it will be happy because we'll able to be able to play STo uninterrupted for longer. Oh, the horror!!!!!
Also, how is the current situation not bad PR? There is a thread about this posted in the discussion subforum almost everyday, sometimes multiple ones, since the day loadouts went in.
Because gamers are shameless hypocrites.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
I posted some constructive criticism in this thread and didn't insult anybody. If you aren't mature enough to handle constructive criticism, I suggest you stop frequenting all mmo forums because they are chalk full of it.
You, on the other hand, have resorted to insults and I will be reporting you shortly. Nicely played.
This is the most hilarious, and untrue, thing I have ever read on a MMO forum in over a decade of reading MMO forums.
Yes, let's generalize like other players do on here and say all feedback is hate and vitriol. All of the
DR feedback was ranting and there was nothing of substance to it. End Sarcasm.
Getting back on topic, what's your stance on the loudout situation? Should they be temporarily removed?
Not talking about you. It's a common thing that gamers will hate everything about the industry while simultaneously continue to support said industry financially behind closed doors. Did you know EA is currently the #1 game development in the world right now? DLC acquisition is trough the roof and their always online policies are flourishing, despite that for the past year Gamers have been actively and publicly condemning the practices. So why do the numbers say the contrary?
Because gamers are hypocrites. We will say we hate X but we will use X because it's either play the game or not and not playing the game is not a preferable option.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP
True about EA. They release the same stuff over and over and people just gobble it up. I stopped supporting them shortly after BF3 was released because of my aversion to origin and how invasive it was.
TBH, the DLC's and prerelease Alpha nonsense is getting out of control. It feels like a new alpha stage $30 zombie game comes out every month now and Developers are even so brazen as to release DLC's on the same day as launch.
Right. But you've probably bought an EA product since then. Why? Because despite the shady business practices....EA still makes some of the best games out there. I hated the Sim City always online thing and swore off buying another Sims title ever again. When they announced the Sims 4, I preordered. And it was the Collector's edition with the free additional art pieces. I own Mass Effect 3. With DLC. It's not even Game of the year edition, too.
Gamers gotta game. Even though we will hate ourselves doing the things we outright abhor, we will do them because it's in our very nature to. So we are shameless hypocrites. So what? Just means we are human. We like what we like and will do what we like. But it never hurts to open your mouth and let people know that this is some total bull.
-Leonard Nimoy, RIP