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why buff BHE, confused on that one

olliereportolliereport Member Posts: 721
edited January 2015 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I'm a little confused by the BHE rewards buff, as far as I can tell it's already one of the most played ground games. It's insane easy, with most groups, and it reliably gave delta rep gear tokens (ancient power cells) more than anything else. as well as salvaged tech.

The only reason I don't play it 24/7 anymore is the que is all worn out for me, after I got my delta rep gear I was exhausted playing that thing. This is probably true for others. Once I got my last bit of gear, I was like "ok, time for BHE break time".





EDIT: some of the other buffs are nice to see, like nukara self destruct, atmo assault, and crystal needed a difficulty buff
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Three words - Delta Rising metrics (this time to prove delta pve is wonderful and all the players love it)
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  • rsoblivionrsoblivion Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    LOL only reason I run it is the Salvage, oh and I'll probably grab a Bio-Neural Gel Pack at some point. Rest is meh. Not a fan of the Armour, the Ship components are mostly not what I need in an Escort so I'll just take the Salvage thanks.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Apparently it was actually under-rewarding for Delta Marks. Sure, "I've got a sandwich" and all - where it's felt like Delta Marks are raining 24/7 around me, heh - but some folks don't seem to have that particular issue and the issue of the number of Marks it gives was brought to their attention/corrected.
  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    1. It had pretty low base rewards originally. 30 marks for elite IIRC.
    2. The enemy HP fix supposedly makes it harder.
  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I've only ran it on my engie for salvage mostly because it seemed like the only instance PuG's didn't fail it regularly every time I joined. Wither that is a good or bad thing over all doesn't matter to me. I just know it was something I could join and not get booted out of five seconds later because some timer or condition wasn't met and the whole thing shuts down while I get stuck waiting for another try bored out of my mind.

    I miss the old elites, yeah you fail an optional objective you took a reward hit but at least you could finish and feel like you accomplished something if you kept at it and learned more about the instance at that difficulty. Today's instances with their timers and lockouts regardless of success just make them unfriendly to play.
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  • olliereportolliereport Member Posts: 721
    edited January 2015
    nimbull wrote: »
    I miss the old elites, yeah you fail an optional objective you took a reward hit but at least you could finish and feel like you accomplished something if you kept at it and learned more about the instance at that difficulty. Today's instances with their timers and lockouts regardless of success just make them unfriendly to play.

    but, the optional fail thing has grown on me, I don't know why, I'm not elitist and feel no need to trash others.

    I think, because it wakes people up, it makes people pay attention just a tiny bit instead of just completely random button mashing - these hurdles are completely modest, and without them it's just a boring snoozefest
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Before marveling at this I would wait to meet the new and improved spawnmother. If my guess is correct I will say "I informed you thusly."
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  • biersteinbierstein Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I'd assume that it's because it's somewhat easy and casual a lot of people that aren't geared for elite play it. Because of this it has a higher fail rate than other harder missions that casuals wont go near.

    NTTE was pretty bad after DR as well but most the casuals realized that unless they managed to land one of the top ground players on their team they'd just fail the mission so it became inefficient for them to leech on.

    Also as an Elite ground STF player I avoid bug hunt because the time:reward ratio was terrible even if it is easier.

    If it were up to me I'd change the final room and require the secondary on elite but allow you to kill the mother first. In general I think the final room could work a lot better with some changes but I don't think Cryptic cares about receiving input from players.
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    sheldonlcooper wrote: »
    Before marveling at this I would wait to meet the new and improved spawnmother. If my guess is correct I will say "I informed you thusly."

    The change to the Queen hit point is likely to affect the difficulty of the mission, and so what may seem like a buff to rewards may be (over)compensated by the change.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I actually still don't see bug hunt in my PVE list even though I am 60. I am thinking there was a prerequisite, but I have avoided most DR stuff so I wouldn't know.
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  • rgzarcherrgzarcher Member Posts: 320 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    olivia211 wrote: »
    I actually still don't see bug hunt in my PVE list even though I am 60. I am thinking there was a prerequisite, but I have avoided most DR stuff so I wouldn't know.

    You have to complete the story mission 'The Dragons Deciet' for it to appear.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    rgzarcher wrote: »
    You have to complete the story mission 'The Dragons Deciet' for it to appear.

    Well, there you go. Okay, I may go blindly complete that mission then. Most of the DR stuff I find ridiculously boring.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited January 2015
    BHE is one of the few Qs that is troll proof that is why it is popular and deserves its buff

    It is also pugable while most other content is not

    The borg STFs have been ruined with troll fail mechanics so they are not enjoyable as they once were

    Remove the fail mechanics would greatly improve the other pve Qs

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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    They should fix Lt. Vanderveer before and/or meanwhile "fixing" the spawnmother.
    He often bugs out and takes ages to "fire in the hole!" ... moreover, listen to what happened in BHE I've run yesterday ...
    We get rid of the first wave, then right when the second wave spawns, we all shoot the concussive tachyon wave ... Lt. Vanderveer faints ... like he doesn't say a word and do anything, totally stuck.
    We thought "ok, reform and let's try again"
    We followed the same routine and the same thing happened.
    Too much DPS killed him? lol
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