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Lol and you try to tell me this game isn't dead?!
jackal1701apw
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I just sat in ESD for 7 whole minutes.
And nothing was said in Zone chat.
By anyone.
And nothing was said in Zone chat.
By anyone.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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That being said... Zone chat off?
After the 7 minutes I was feeling a little 'rrronrly' so I said something...
I saw it and a couple of people replied.
I get that it is a dead time of day, but seriously... ESD Zone chat?!
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In a minute someone's going to start posting some sort of trolly comment about the game not being dead.
I'll get in there first and say I've never seen ESD be so quiet as it has been in the last few days. Before anyone mentions time zones etc. let me say that I've signed in at various times of the day and night and it really is quiet.
Pretending that the game isn't quieter than normal helps no-one. The game you're rushing to defend needs players - acting like everything is rosy in the garden is hurting the game.
Free Tibet!
Most players realise quickly how dire ESD zone is and move to their respective private channels. Check some of the more popular ones, like NoP Public Service, Doffjobs, DPS-10,000, Redditchat etc. In any case, there is usually little need to start a conversation on ESD, just butt in on one.
If you put out a LF4M ISA and don't get it full within 5 minutes, then you can be sure of activity issues.
If the busiest social hub in the game is quiet for 7 minutes then yes, it's a bad thing.
Free Tibet!
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zone chat is not the best way to measure players, if you bring up the instances for each zone you can get a rough count on the number of players there.
for example at this time 11am (uk) there are around 100 players in space around ESD aprox 500 players in ESD and aprox another 100 players at star fleet academy.
this is besides all the players spread around other maps in the game.
this may not seem like a lot but it is hardly what I would call dead.
another example for you is during the winter event I noticed there were over 50 instances that were all pretty full that's around 2500 players just in that one zone at that one time.
of course the maximum number of players you can get in one instance is 100 but that is only if enough players request to go to that instance the average is usually around 50.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
If you are choosing not to see that or choosing to try to explain away the numbers then that's your choice. It doesn't help the game though.
Free Tibet!
Interesting...
when even I was in ESD in the past couple of days, the chat was busy with all the regular "ESD niceties", including a very "interesting" "discussion" just yesterday about... well... all things racist... the kind of arguments you'd actually pay money to shut down...
Yes, "ESD situation normal"...
im not trying to explain away anything, im just trying to show the best way to find out how many players are in one zone.
whether this is high or low for this time of day I cant say, neither can I say the total number of players in the game.
just pointing out that just because theres not much zone chat does not mean you are the only player in the game or that the game is dead that's all.
it may not be as healthy as it has been in the past but its far from dead.
if you want to see a game that's a lot worse off then sto compaire the sto steam chart here > http://steamcharts.com/app/9900
to the one for champions on line here > http://steamcharts.com/app/9880
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Doffjobs: no chat in 15 mins
DPS-10k: One guy called LF3M IGA got no responses and that was the only chat in 15 mins
NoP_PS: Yes ok there was some chat in here - someone asking for a t3 spire over and over...in 15 mins
Accolades - dead
TheTradingChannel - dead
TribbleTestServer (TTS) - dead
Organizedpvp - dead
It's not just ESD its all the popular STO channels too...
Activity is way down. It may be the time of day - like I said before. Or everyone is knackered after slaughtering kazon for an entire weekend. Or everyone went out on a bender last night and are nursing a hangover... I don't know - I am just reporting it in here. The game is dead atm...
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You sound very Biased.
10k is a space channel. IGA is for ground channel.
Besides you just missed the couple of ISA calls. And you just missed the fight that was happening right before the ISA calls you missed.
On that particular time, there is almost 200 people at that channel. that is if you know were to look at that channel population.
Biased is exactly what I am not.
I deliberately set my watch for a 15min window and measured channel activity in that window.
Not what heppened before and not what happened after which are the events you are describing.
Population means nothing. People sit in this game logged in but not playing because they have better things to do they are just waiting for stupid R&D craft/upgrade timegates to finish. I am measuring activity.
EDIT - I am bored of this lttle experiment now - all it has served to do is depress me about the state of the game.
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The state of the game is fine except in your mind.
Like I said, IGA is ground not Space. And you based it on a Space channel. Had it been ISA rather IGA and you wont even get 1 person for 1 hour. Thats a totally different scenario when you call for IGA when a couple of ISA just went by before and after IGA you saw.
IGA/=ISA
IGA/= Space
Sincerely and without any disrespect to you.
Folks really need to honestly take a look around. Pretending there is no crisis, is part of the dystopia.
I've been playing since before Beta, in Alpha.
The game has NEVER been this bad in 5 years I've played. Ever.
Not only have there been a complete breakdown of relationship between the developers and the community, the essence of what Star Trek is about has been lost to the mechanism of P2P grind.
But by all means feel free to go about your business for now. Time is relative. I caught a wake-up 3 months after LoR.
People who say nothing except "the game is fine" are just as bad as people who say the game is doomed.
Do us a favour and express your real opinion instead of following what you imagine to be the company line.
Free Tibet!
I was only measuring the activity on DPS-10k as that was one channel that an earlier poster had called out (along with a handful of others) that would be more representative of player activity (despite the fact that I disagree with their statment as ESD is the primary social hub of the entire game...but whatever)
Said player had called the IGA in DPS-G200 (but not DPS-G400) had not gotten a response in that channel either.
Also, banging on about the fact that this was a call for a ground pve in a space pve channel shows how much you use the DPS channels. People REGULARLYset up ground pve groups in there, be they BHE, DRSE, NTTE, HGE or whatever...even without calling in the ground versions of the channels. The requirements to be invited is a 10k ISA run, but from there people create what they want, when they want.
Stating over and over again that there were other calls for ISA before and after my experiment is making you sound pretty biased imo
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I really have to agree here. Its hard to impossible to give any solid numbers or infos but from all checked sources I have at my disposal activity in this game seems down.
Fleets, elite channels, in game friendliest. The past years I often encountered some kind of spring/early summer gap where peeps tend to log a bit less. Never in mid of January though.
Season players left much sooner than after any other major release I have experienced. Veterans and hardcore players log less often. I have a much harder time meeting new players.
Even those still around are far less interested in teaming up for general PvE which always used to work in the past.
Im still able to get 2-3 for a pug on the stuff I like to run but thats pretty much it for the time being. We also have to wait much longer to get a PvE running. Im also lucky that Im part of a mega fleet and do play this game with long term in game and rl friends.
I have checked forums regularly since DR. Its not as if players wouldnt have given cryptic and the publisher good feedback and advice to avoid such a situation.
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I can't even get a response in DOFFJOBS anymore. The 5 Tier 5 fleets my alts are in rarely have more than 1 person logged in.
For what its worth DR managed to insert much more depth and variety to the game. Levelcap, spec trees, tier 6 ships, tier 5U, gear upgrade (especially rarity). By itself it is a good thing but the traumatic time/money gates behind it dont seem to be remotely supported by any available contend.
And yea you are correct, depending on how many characters you have and how high expectations you have of them you could easily spend thousands of dollars just to get them all to a state (best gear possible) they were before DR.
The alternative would be to play 5 years 8 hours a day but even if one would this is hardly covered by any long tern motivating contend around.
The fact that you need to play ONE successful elite PvE in order have enough recourses to apply ONE experimental tech upgrade is something cryptic should really look up to. You will basically need thousands per char if you strive for the best gear available.
I regularly log during EU primetime in the late afternoon/early evening. Sorry but Im really under the impression as well that the in game population is as low as it ever was at the moment. Hope this changes soon. I like this game but will not play it by myself.
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just ignore the smell of decay
oh and that shallow grave looking thing with STO sticking out of the ground
yep not dead at all lol
When you do upgrades, you are not actually required to complete the progress bar before you close the window. You can just apply an upgrade, and then close the window again. There is your progress. You don't need to have all Mark XIV gear in the first week or all Epic gear in the first month to have "progress". Progress is not the same as "Finished".
And you can practicaly throw as much money as you want at the game, specializations won't really come any fasther. I mean, even if someone was so crazy to try to speed up specialization levelling with skill point boosts, it's just a 20 % bonus.
You are right with your statement of course. The problem is just if u follow a slowly pure in game earning progress you are doomed to some very slim and repetitive contend to back it up.
If you strife for max you face (not literarily) thousands of elite PvE and patrol missions.
I think for the majority of players interested in Star Trek and/or mmopgs this game does not support such a course of action giving them only the option to either pay or simply strife for less. I cant blame anybody choosing neither so bye bye I guess.
I really fear that with DR for most players the demands have been increased 10 times too much compared to what this game has to offer.
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