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  • qqqqiiqqqqii Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Q wrote: »
    Greetings fair Mortals!

    It is I, the omnipotent bringer of joy,
    Failed. Didn't bother with the rest. This has to be the most un-fun, pointless, haphazard grind I'm ever likely to see in an MMO. Obviously, you simply don't want people to get the new warp cores; should have just left them out entirely.

    Thanks for living up to the usual expectations, Cryptic.
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  • keeny75keeny75 Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    c0ldwint3r wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me how I can play this game with all the Lags?

    I try to do things in Winterwonderland and every few minutes "Server not responding" over 60 seconds or longer. Since 2 weeks Disconnects, "server not responding" and massive lags every few minutes. It doesn't matter what I do, or where my char is.:mad:


    yup i seem to be having the same issue. really frustrating when you close to finishing tides of ice and you get booted off and don't finish. how am i suppose to get 5 wins to get the new gear if i can't finish?
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  • emp0kn0remp0kn0r Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I can't see the rep project for the T6 Breen carrier.

    Is it because I still have the one from last year uncompleted in my list - do I need to complete/drop this one first?
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  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Right, emp0kn0r you can only run one winter ship project at any given time, complete the outstanding project or cancel it ( if you cancel a ship project that has Q autographs slotted, you will loose them ).
  • emp0kn0remp0kn0r Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    z3ndor99 wrote: »
    Right, emp0kn0r you can only run one winter ship project at any given time, complete the outstanding project or cancel it ( if you cancel a ship project that has Q autographs slotted, you will loose them ).

    Thank you!
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  • vorga113vorga113 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The way some of the store content is gated just plain dumb.
    The idea is to force people to play certain content but the obstacle can be overcome by just going afk for 10-15 mins once an hour exactly how much playing is going on?
    And in that the wave rewards don't always drop especially the wave 10 one they whole thing is seriously messed up.

    I get having access to the store tied to the accoldes but the bar is way too high especially when people have multiple characters.
    Have the 2012 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvE race and defeating the lake snowman boss ONCE

    Have the 2013 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvP race and doing the xmas invasion ONCE

    And the 2014 content gated behind completing the Tides of Ice ONCE
  • qqqqiiqqqqii Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    vorga113 wrote: »
    The way some of the store content is gated just plain dumb.
    The idea is to force people to play certain content but the obstacle can be overcome by just going afk for 10-15 mins once an hour exactly how much playing is going on?
    And in that the wave rewards don't always drop especially the wave 10 one they whole thing is seriously messed up.

    I get having access to the store tied to the accoldes but the bar is way too high especially when people have multiple characters.
    Have the 2012 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvE race and defeating the lake snowman boss ONCE

    Have the 2013 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvP race and doing the xmas invasion ONCE

    And the 2014 content gated behind completing the Tides of Ice ONCE

    Agreed. But they don't care, and never have.
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  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited December 2014
    vorga113 wrote: »
    The way some of the store content is gated just plain dumb.
    The idea is to force people to play certain content but the obstacle can be overcome by just going afk for 10-15 mins once an hour exactly how much playing is going on?
    And in that the wave rewards don't always drop especially the wave 10 one they whole thing is seriously messed up.

    I get having access to the store tied to the accoldes but the bar is way too high especially when people have multiple characters.
    Have the 2012 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvE race and defeating the lake snowman boss ONCE

    Have the 2013 content gated behind an accolade that can be unlocked by completing the PvP race and doing the xmas invasion ONCE

    And the 2014 content gated behind completing the Tides of Ice ONCE
    qqqqii wrote: »
    Agreed. But they don't care, and never have.


    From larest Tribble patch notes.....
    Tribble is being brought down for maintenance to update it to build ST.46.20141123a.9

    Winter Event:
    • It is now easier to gain completion credit for participating in “Tide of Ice”.
    • Items unlocked through completing “Tide of Ice” will now unlock for the entire account.
      • This will require only 1 character on an account to unlock all new Winter Event items through completing “Tide of Ice”.
      • Players will still need to spend the correct Winter Event currencies for each purchase on each character.
    • Updated ship discount functionality for the Breen Plesh Brek heavy frigate and Breen Chel Grett warship.
      • Players who had previously completed the projects to claim one of these ships should be able to unlock their account discount after they talk to Q, or upon acquiring another ship.
    • The Breen Sarr Theln Carrier now has Subsystem Targeting.
    • Adjusted the race flags for the “Fast and the Flurious” to better positions in the finish zone.
    • Resolved an issue which was causing some snowmen to spawn underground during “Snowball Fight”.
    • New Winter Event items which require completion of “Tide of Ice” are now labeled more clearly.
    • Greatly reduced the frequency of the VO for the Winter Epohh Researcher while in the gazebo.

    Known Issues:
    • Hyper-Dual Refracting Tetryon Beam Banks do not gain their Epic mod upon reaching Epic quality.
    • The PvE queue Defend Rh’lhho Station does not reward 10 Marks when failing in Advanced or Elite mode.

    So apparently you will still need to complete Tides of Ice 10x on a character but it will now unlock for your entirre account which makes it alt friendly. Hopefully the end - boss for mission will get a HP boost she seems to die rather quickly atm.
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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,536 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Why can't I slot the Endothermic Induction Field module on the same kit with a Exothermic Induction Field module? :(
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  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I suppose it's good that they're doing something about the "Tides of Ice" and its dependent unlocks, but there is no getting around it, this mission is bugged and needs to be fixed. It's not a question of "participation needs to be easier", it's a matter of actual active participation is not recognized.

    Take a look at this picture. That is a picture of me not participating in the "Tides of Ice" event. Now, to you and me, that looks like someone crouching on the bridge, aiming "The Big One" at a bunch of snowborgs who are exploding into clouds of mist. And, to you and me, that might seem like participating in the event. But not to the game's code. Oh no.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Two years ago I claimd the Chell grett now claimed the raider for the discount but the chll grett is saying 1000 it this right or a bug?
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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,536 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Would it be possible to get a PvP Winter map for next year? Give each faction a snow fort that they need to defend. Using snowballs only, they can attack the opposing teams fort trying to destroy it. Using snowballs, teams cal also attempt to repair damage to their snow fort with their snowballs in their inventory. Have it something like a 5v5 or even a 10v10 event. Include an optional where a team can destroy a wall into the opposing teams fort to capture their flag for some extra ornaments. This flag would basically be a first come, first serve to get the extra ornaments. The first team to completely demolish the other teams snow fort would win the match.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    There is a reliable way of making the NPC fail to spawn in the PvE race. Hint: It involves something you'd do if you forgot to run STO through Steam... ;)

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  • xoelloexoelloe Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    westmetals wrote: »
    Been doing that. (Along with about fgour other strategies.) Using your suggestion - I can safely navigate the track, but I fall so far behind that the opponent reaches the finish line before I can even see it.

    I wish there was some sort of repeat-failure mechanic like there is in the most similar standard episode ("Night of the Comet"). That or some sort of wearable that cancels out sliding completely is about the ONLY way I would be able to do this.

    I disagree with the "it just takes practice". I honestly don't think I'm close enough to making it that ANY amount of practice would help. I've already wasted four hours on it and I cannot get within sight of the finish line without hitting either the track position failure or the opponent reaching finish line failure. It's not even close.

    This game is not for you then. Don't do it. Yes, it does take a little bit of practice only, whatever you think though.

    Quitting is not always humiliating, just save yourself the trouble then.
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
    Two years ago the new redo Rep system wasn't around, they only started using this last year. So it's working.

    ( I can't believe I actually said a Cryptic system is working..........I feel so dirty. :eek: )

    It is actually a bug, and a fix is coming. Already gone live on Tribble.
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • warlockx1warlockx1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    rushatsi wrote: »
    forum pvp aint allowed and no flaming the devs (eyerolls)!! if u dont wanna play it dont play it. no whine and follow the rules.

    How dare someone voice their unhappiness with the game right?
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    So far I'm having lots of fun with the event. Doing the race for the carrier for my Romulan. Almost bought my jacket, and next will be a hat.
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  • isthisscienceisthisscience Member Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The gingerbread man with the snowborg sounds a lot like Wallace Shawn, especially with his alarmed voice as the snowboard advance. Is it actually him? Or is that inconceivable!?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    westmetals wrote: »
    BUT that means I cannot get the event ships.... even though the dev blog (originally) said that only participation was required - not victory. THAT is why I am so upset... they lied, and there's no alternative for those players (like myself) who find the race unwinnable.

    I still question the "little bit of practice" theory, too. How exactly is "a little bit of practice" going to improve my performance such that I am able to beat an NPC who is currently reaching the finish line before it is even VISIBLE? I mean, if I was losing by a small amount, I can kinda see it. But I just don't see that amount of improvement being reasonable to expect.
    what exactly are you doing? I've have a few minor issues myself, but that is related to how I made my character run faster. It's very important to remember that the NPC moves at a jog. you don't need to do much running to win, IF you can avoid sliding out of control. It does take considerable practice, for a start you should try to only run the first half or so of each relatively straight stretch and jog the rest.
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  • oldschooldorkoldschooldork Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I have a stupid question and I really didn't have time to sort through 464 posts so I'll just ask. Is it safe to assume that the starship trait from the Breen carrier only affects hanger pets, and not other combat pets, i.e. the saucer from the Galaxy class, or the different parts of the MVAE? I know in the description it said hanger pets, but I thought I'd ask anyway...just because I'm a special kind of stupid.:)
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  • qqqqiiqqqqii Member Posts: 482 Arc User
    edited December 2014
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    kapla1755 wrote: »
    So apparently you will still need to complete Tides of Ice 10x on a character but it will now unlock for your entirre account which makes it alt friendly. Hopefully the end - boss for mission will get a HP boost she seems to die rather quickly atm.

    Just a short while ago, participated in all 9 waves and the Queen on Tides of Ice (wave 10), no credit. Have fully completed this about 12 times on one character, getting credit for 4. It's bugged, and nothing in the patch notes actually addresses the real issue.

    Getting really damn tired of this TRIBBLE from these idiots.
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  • xoelloexoelloe Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    qqqqii wrote: »
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    Just a short while ago, participated in all 9 waves and the Queen on Tides of Ice (wave 10), no credit. Have fully completed this about 12 times on one character, getting credit for 4. It's bugged, and nothing in the patch notes actually addresses the real issue.

    Getting really damn tired of this TRIBBLE from these idiots.

    I had the same issue, although the ratio you mention is exaggerated, at least for me. No counter at the end(last wave 10) and checking the accolade shows it was not recognized as completed, the count does not increase. It is a bug. Saying that, I have completed the accolade on another toon already w/o any problems. That should affect the gating on my other characters, no? Well they don't. At least not yet. I assume that needs a future patch?
  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2014
    qqqqii wrote: »
    [snipped: specific patch note trash



    Just a short while ago, participated in all 9 waves and the Queen on Tides of Ice (wave 10), no credit. Have fully completed this about 12 times on one character, getting credit for 4. It's bugged, and nothing in the patch notes actually addresses the real issue.

    Getting really damn tired of this TRIBBLE from these idiots.

    The very first line of the patch notes addresses that issue;
    It is now easier to gain completion credit for participating in “Tide of Ice”.

    Cryptic may not like to elaborate very often, but I'm pretty sure that's the fix you're wanting. All we can do is wait and hope that they decide to put this onto Tribble before the thread gets much bigger with people reporting this bug which has already been fixed.
    Join date is wrong, I've actually been around since STO Beta.
    True alters don't have a "main". Account wide unlocks for all unique event rewards!!
  • sammyspet1sammyspet1 Member Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nice work on this event....
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    wanted to beat the Delta Meme n00bs LOL
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  • mindshadow999mindshadow999 Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    The look of the redone winter wonderland map has grown on me the more I'm there. It's definitely a case of the teaser screenshots not really doing it justice. I had my doubts, but now I for one welcome our translucent ice floor overlords.
  • ironfist123abcironfist123abc Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    YA! Winter Event Is back. With new Guns,Devices,Winter Clothes, And a new Event Mission COOL!.......No really its cold When can we use Flamethrowers :)
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I think this is one of the better events that happens in STO. The weapons and Gingerbread Village STF are the best part. The ship offers they have for the photographs are meh I feel but I don't really care for Breen ships. I wish there were places to ice skate all year round. That mechanic really is nice too.
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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,536 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I am going to try and make a point, from my opinion, and hopefully convey it constructively. I enjoy the Winter Wonderland event but adding a mandatory grind with, Tides of Ice, has kind of spoiled that event for me. I wanted the stuff in the store and had the ornaments to get them with but not being able to get them because of a mandatory 5 runs for new snow weapons and 10 runs for the Breen Warp Core has caused me a bit of a burn out on the event.

    I usually run the events I like almost daily, when I have time over the entire length of the event. This allows me t build up enough stuff to get plenty of jackets for my fleetmates along with everything I want for my characters. I did grind out the 10 (more like 15 thanks to it being bugged) during the first two days to get my warp core and new weapons. Sadly, because of this, I don't have any motivation to play, Tides of Ice, anymore. This isn't anything to do wit the particular event itself, but being forced to grind it t get what I should have been able to when the event started, has caused me to burn out on the new addition.

    I don't mind the daily race because it lasts about 2 minutes from start to finish. Tides of Ice isn't so bad either but it is a tad long. I hope next year, we see the amount of snowmen waves reduced to 7 waves. If PWE really wants to time gate more items in the future, I, personally, would prefer the short daily with a 20 hour cooldown. Please keep this in mind with the entire grind system that plagues this game in so many different ways. If the content you add is good, and Tides of Ice is good. Then you don't need to attach a grind to it to get players to play it. If you really do want to reward us for our continued enjoyment of the event, please look at the daily 20 hour cooldown versus just 10 grinds of an hourly event that will more than likely cause some players burnout on the content.

    I was also disappointed to not see Ferengi Yoda make a return with all of the new Star Wars hype going on.
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  • kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ok so read like 50 posts, didnt see an answer but similar questions.. Ive done 20 tides (2 chars have accolade) need it on a 3rd for warp core.. Ive heard they will make it acct now.. but havent found anything to support that.. So will this be patched? 1 char does 10x tides, acct unlocks? or is that just wishful rumoring? (if it does unlock I will prolly get the warp core on all 10 chars instead of just 3)
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    To answer the question kintisho, the tides of ice 10 run account unlock, is on tribble now an will be going live this Thursday, check tribble dec 5th patch notes, hope this helps.
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