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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I kind of like the design. I never did like the the front treatment for the Scimitar with that squared off boxy look. It just doesn't look right for a Romulan ship, so I like the idea of blades or projections of some sort to break up that front end.
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  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Scimitar was a violation of the game balance and Cryptic knows it (i hope), they certainly do not do T6.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cbrjwrr wrote: »
    Enjoy your flying pig belief, try again once you understand just how impossible it is for the Scim to be a Reman design.
    It's also impossible for hadrosaurus to have evolved to a sentient species, and left Earth on a spaceship.
    Yet, Voths.

    The Eugenics wars, happened first in 1992.

    Star Trek is full of impossibility, yet, they are in the shows.


    So yeah, officially, the scimitar is of Reman design. Doesn't make much sense, but there it is. And that's exactly why it doesn't look like a Romulan ship.

    You can check memory alpha ("The Reman warbird Scimitar was a massive, heavily-armed warship. It was constructed under the command of Shinzon") I can't find any better source. But it's clearly not a Romulan ship.
    Shinzon built in in secret, with his Reman friend/allies/whatever, so it's Reman.
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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Kilij - Scimitar Retrofit
    Romulan tier 6 dreadnought


    May just be some concept art and, not the actual finished product but, I suspect people will be like wtf!


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    erei1 wrote: »
    It's also impossible for hadrosaurus to have evolved to a sentient species, and left Earth on a spaceship.
    Yet, Voths.


    Or the T REX to evolve into a delicious farm bird, but, chickens.

    I STILL hear every post you make in Picardo's voice.... I can't help it...

    On a side note, the Remans and Romulans are allies now. You think they wouldn't share technology between themselves?
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    It's also impossible for hadrosaurus to have evolved to a sentient species, and left Earth on a spaceship.
    Yet, Voths.

    The Eugenics wars, happened first in 1992.

    Star Trek is full of impossibility, yet, they are in the shows.


    So yeah, officially, the scimitar is of Reman design. Doesn't make much sense, but there it is. And that's exactly why it doesn't look like a Romulan ship.

    You can check memory alpha ("The Reman warbird Scimitar was a massive, heavily-armed warship. It was constructed under the command of Shinzon") I can't find any better source. But it's clearly not a Romulan ship.
    Shinzon built in in secret, with his Reman friend/allies/whatever, so it's Reman.
    Actually do a little more digging,
    "History
    Built at a secret base, the Scimitar was the keystone of Shinzon's plot to assassinate the Romulan Senate and assume the role of Praetor of the Romulan Star Empire, something he could not have achieved without the support of the Romulan military.
    "
    Lets be realistic, the Remans were slave laborers and cannon fodder foot soldiers, they would never have had the resources to design and build this kind of a ship without help and since that help was Romulan it's not a stretch to see where the design and technology comes from and an expanded universe story claims that the Scimitar was a design created to fight against the Dominion but was not built due to the wars ending.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    cbrjwrr wrote: »
    Enjoy your flying pig belief, try again once you understand just how impossible it is for the Scim to be a Reman design.

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  • prierinprierin Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Actually do a little more digging,
    "History
    Built at a secret base, the Scimitar was the keystone of Shinzon's plot to assassinate the Romulan Senate and assume the role of Praetor of the Romulan Star Empire, something he could not have achieved without the support of the Romulan military.
    "
    Lets be realistic, the Remans were slave laborers and cannon fodder foot soldiers, they would never have had the resources to design and build this kind of a ship without help and since that help was Romulan it's not a stretch to see where the technology comes from.


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  • beerxhyperbeerxhyper Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Actually do a little more digging,
    "History
    Built at a secret base, the Scimitar was the keystone of Shinzon's plot to assassinate the Romulan Senate and assume the role of Praetor of the Romulan Star Empire, something he could not have achieved without the support of the Romulan military.
    "
    Lets be realistic, the Remans were slave laborers and cannon fodder foot soldiers, they would never have had the resources to design and build this kind of a ship without help and since that help was Romulan it's not a stretch to see where the design and technology comes from and an expanded universe story claims that the Scimitar was a design created to fight against the Dominion but was not built due to the wars ending.

    acctually in the movies it is called the REMAN Warbird Scimatar i believe shinzon said it was built by the remans in secret.


  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    beerxhyper wrote: »
    acctually in the movies it is called the REMAN Warbird Scimatar i believe shinzon said it was built by the remans in secret.
    "Built by" doesn't imply "Designed by", but whatever, we just go ahead and ignore the question of how these slaves got their hands on this technology and call it a Reman design. After all it's Star Trek, it's stupid to expect things to make sense.:rolleyes:
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  • catoblepasbetacatoblepasbeta Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Weird that people insist on saying the Scimitar was a Romulan design.

    It has nothing in common with Romulan aesthetics-inside or outside- except a vague bird like appearance. Seriously, it would fit in better in a Breen fleet than a Romulan one.

    It shoots blue disruptor blasts, like Reman small arms do, while Romulan designs invariably shoot green.

    They flat out say in the movie that Remans built it in secret.

    Does any of this make sense? Heck no. But then it's got plenty of company in that nonsense-filled piece of garbage, Nemesis.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Kilij - Scimitar Retrofit
    Romulan tier 6 dreadnought


    May just be some concept art and, not the actual finished product but, I suspect people will be like wtf!

    Cryptic have decided not to use fan designs anymore, not after the debacle that was the Enterprise-F contest.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    If the Remen could build that thing on their own, why did they need the Romulans at all??

    Hell why are they trying to wipe out Earth when the Romulans enslaved them??

    Hell why are they following a Human?

    Hell why does Picard Kill A clone of him and is in shock after, but has no problems killing his past self for abandoning the Enterprise D?

    Hell Why does Nemesis suck so badly?
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    If the Remen could build that thing on their own, why did they need the Romulans at all??

    Hell why are they trying to wipe out Earth when the Romulans enslaved them??

    Hell why are they following a Human?

    Hell why does Picard Kill A clone of him and is in shock after, but has no problems killing his past self for abandoning the Enterprise D?

    Hell Why does Nemesis suck so badly?
    Well I can understand why they would be attacking Earth, it's the only way to get rid of the guys making the really bad movies.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Kilij - Scimitar Retrofit
    Romulan tier 6 dreadnought


    May just be some concept art and, not the actual finished product but, I suspect people will be like wtf!

    wow that would almost makes me wanna play again...almost

    Thats one sweet warbird
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,919 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    "Built by" doesn't imply "Designed by", but whatever, we just go ahead and ignore the question of how these slaves got their hands on this technology and call it a Reman design. After all it's Star Trek, it's stupid to expect things to make sense.:rolleyes:

    Exactly.

    Kind of surprising how many people misunderstand the origins of the Scimitar.

    The Remans were the slave labor force that built it. It was designed by Shinzon (a clone of Picard) with help and support from members of the Romulan Military. It was assembled by Reman Slaves.

    Anyone that knows anything about Remans knows that there is absolutely no way the Scimitar is a 'Reman ship.' It's called a Reman ship only because it was the weapon of the Remans in their overthrow of the Romulan Senate.

    Look up the Remans, who they are and what they're capable of. They're a slave labor force, miners and cannon fodder. They had as much to do with the design of the Scimitar as Kirk did.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Actually do a little more digging,
    "History
    Built at a secret base, the Scimitar was the keystone of Shinzon's plot to assassinate the Romulan Senate and assume the role of Praetor of the Romulan Star Empire, something he could not have achieved without the support of the Romulan military.
    "
    Lets be realistic, the Remans were slave laborers and cannon fodder foot soldiers, they would never have had the resources to design and build this kind of a ship without help and since that help was Romulan it's not a stretch to see where the design and technology comes from and an expanded universe story claims that the Scimitar was a design created to fight against the Dominion but was not built due to the wars ending.

    The part you quoted does not come with any citation. The movie itself, however, says the Remans built it. So the part you quoted is just fan speculation and should be removed from the MA article.
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