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timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
I just thought that a lot of people don't level alts anymore because the task of getting them to 60 + doing specializations on each one is a pretty heavy task.


But we had the same problem with reputations before and it was a great solution to put the sponsoring system into the game. I was immediately motivated to work on my alts again.

Has anyone thought about doing the same for specializations?

So as soon as I max a spec tree I unlock an account wide boost.

Since we can't get a permament 200% XP boost obviously, maybe any spec point earned on another toon gets me a bonus point for the same tree.

For example:

My Main has Pilot tree maxed.

My secondary character earns now a spec point plus gets a bonus point for pilot as well.

I can now spent 2 points into pilot, or 1 point in pilot and one point in intelligence or commando.

If I have on the other hand 2 specializations maxed, let's say i ntelligence and pilot, my secondary now gets a bonus point in each of those speciilizations.
I can spent 1 point in any tree, or 2 in pilot and one in intelligence, or 2 in intelligence and one in pilot.

If my main has all 3 trees maxed my secondary can spent 4 points total. one bonus point in each tree plus one point in any tree.

That should help a great deal with leveling and speccing alts and alleviating the grind, don't you think?
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    timelord79 wrote: »
    I just thought that a lot of people don't level alts anymore because the task of getting them to 60 + doing specializations on each one is a pretty heavy task.


    But we had the same problem with reputations before and it was a great solution to put the sponsoring system into the game. I was immediately motivated to work on my alts again.

    Has anyone thought about doing the same for specializations?

    So as soon as I max a spec tree I unlock an account wide boost.

    Since we can't get a permament 200% XP boost obviously, maybe any spec point earned on another toon gets me a bonus point for the same tree.

    For example:

    My Main has Pilot tree maxed.

    My secondary character earns now a spec point plus gets a bonus point for pilot as well.

    I can now spent 2 points into pilot, or 1 point in pilot and one point in intelligence or commando.

    If I have on the other hand 2 specializations maxed, let's say i ntelligence and pilot, my secondary now gets a bonus point in each of those speciilizations.
    I can spent 1 point in any tree, or 2 in pilot and one in intelligence, or 2 in intelligence and one in pilot.

    If my main has all 3 trees maxed my secondary can spent 4 points total. one bonus point in each tree plus one point in any tree.

    That should help a great deal with leveling and speccing alts and alleviating the grind, don't you think?

    ... A bit. Maybe. But as with reputations, I'd rather go with a "one character to unlock them all!" approach, only requiring one character on an account to complete. It's one of the things TOR did right that STO did not.

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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Specialization should be account wide. Especially when more specialization will come, since it's already a pain to max them currently.
    Heck, it's a pain to just level up to 60 from 50...
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  • nephilim83nephilim83 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I do think it would be a lot cooler to treat reps and specs like the Legacies in SWTOR. That would fix my single biggest issue with the current state of things - my poor alts being left in leveling limbo.
  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Honestly, I don't agree.

    If I do my specs on one toon, why should I have everything handed to me on potentially 1-40 other toons without spending a single additional minute playing those characters?
    It doesn't make sense from a business perspective and frankly, my progression on other toons get reduced to upgrading gear which is boring.

    However I think the starship traits which I unlock with each tree could and maybe should be account unlocks.
    So with bonus spec points plus account unlocked traits it would very much be similar to the legacy system in TOR.

    Last time I checked (which has been a whilem granted) TOR doesn't hand you everything on a silver plate either.
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  • amishrevolutionamishrevolution Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I don't have any problem at all with levelling specs, sure it would be nice to make it easier on my alts with a sponsorship system but it's the levelling from 50 to 60 that's really killing it for me at the moment. Games need some grind but not the hellish grind for those last ten levels, it was bad enough not having enough storyline content to complete without seemingly endless grinding but making it worse by moving the gates is just not right.
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  • j0hn41j0hn41 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I would support something like this.

    I think we should have some kind of R&D sponsorship too, although it's obviously less critical, since most of what you can make can be easily transferred to alts.
  • mightybobcncmightybobcnc Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    At the very least, some sort of Specialization and R&D sponsorship would be prudent

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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    An account-wide boost to specialisation points earned would result in an account-wide boost to endgame dilithium earned once players and their alts hit level 110. It'll never fly because Cryptic doesn't want to give players rewards that are commensurate with their expended effort.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    An account-wide boost to specialisation points earned would result in an account-wide boost to endgame dilithium earned once players and their alts hit level 110. It'll never fly because Cryptic doesn't want to give players rewards that are commensurate with their expended effort.
    The dil reward from completing specialization have been removed with the Japori nerf.
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  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Yes make is so! Account wide would be less grinding. I am usually on my strongest player. The tree idea seems fun but you have to advance that bar on top to the end just to get 1 point to use on the tree.
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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    coolheadal wrote: »
    Yes make is so! Account wide would be less grinding. I am usually on my strongest player. The tree idea seems fun but you have to advance that bar on top to the end just to get 1 point to use on the tree.

    Just to make clear what I mean.

    If I have a spec tree completed on one toon, another toon will earn a bonus point for the same tree with every regular spec point the secondary toon earns. Not just a single bonus point for the entire completed tree.

    That would mean you could level the same tree twice as fast or level 2 trees simultaneously at the same rate.
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    timelord79 wrote: »
    I just thought that a lot of people don't level alts anymore because the task of getting them to 60 + doing specializations on each one is a pretty heavy task.


    But we had the same problem with reputations before and it was a great solution to put the sponsoring system into the game. I was immediately motivated to work on my alts again.

    Has anyone thought about doing the same for specializations?

    So as soon as I max a spec tree I unlock an account wide boost.

    Since we can't get a permament 200% XP boost obviously, maybe any spec point earned on another toon gets me a bonus point for the same tree.

    For example:

    My Main has Pilot tree maxed.

    My secondary character earns now a spec point plus gets a bonus point for pilot as well.

    I can now spent 2 points into pilot, or 1 point in pilot and one point in intelligence or commando.

    If I have on the other hand 2 specializations maxed, let's say i ntelligence and pilot, my secondary now gets a bonus point in each of those speciilizations.
    I can spent 1 point in any tree, or 2 in pilot and one in intelligence, or 2 in intelligence and one in pilot.

    If my main has all 3 trees maxed my secondary can spent 4 points total. one bonus point in each tree plus one point in any tree.

    That should help a great deal with leveling and speccing alts and alleviating the grind, don't you think?

    that's a catch 22 situation there, if they play their alts they would get specialization as a natural course of play and if they don't play them then having specialization would be of no use to them anyway.
    why not just doff your alts while playing your chosen main and by the time your main completes his spec tree your alts will be up to level 60 through doffing alone and ready to start maxing out their spec tree, then just give your main a rest and just doff with him and just one by one play your alts until they have filled their tree.

    and what about ship mastery if you are not playing your alts even if you are getting free specialization on them the only way you will get ship mastery is to play space based missions with them and ship mastery is at least as important as specialization anyway.

    in any case once you finish the tree on your main I think you will find that the end result is not such a big deal everyone seems to think it is and you wont be in that much of a rush to get it on all of your characters in any case.

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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    It'S the same with reputation.
    if you level up all your toons at the same time, this won't help you much, but if you start one toon later it will be that much easier.
    Also you could at the same time level 2 or 3 toons each in a different spec tree and then swap after you got the sponsor benefits to then level the other ones at twice the speed.
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