So heres the deal to all the nay sayers, and whiners ive seen in this thread, about them wanting cryptic to "nerf" the advanced/elite. Get over it, and learn a build, and put it together.
if you cannot do the new stuff you have one or multiple of the problems i am going to list.
1. You dont actually know a decent ship build. ( gear level is not that important )
2. Your skill tree, you have that all messed up don't you?
3. Your not level 60, SO do normals, until you are max level.
4. Remember Normals were all you could do at level 44-45t to level 50?? Well they should make you do normals from 50-55 so you all quit whining.
5. Your too, unknowlegeable, or unaware how FREE to play this game is, without even needed to cheat, with a macro or anything to make dilithium, and turn it into zen.
Your only whining because cryptic is forcing you to play content, your not "used to".
I would suggest to you, temporarely find a fleet, that is willing to help you learn some actual knowledge about the game, and play with them. Most people have fleet channels, and they are basically "fleet alliances".
If your an owner of a small fleet, make an alt toon and go meet some people. For petes sake this is an MMO, its not meant to be played solo. These are meant to be social games. Join an alliance, with a tier 5 fleet, and get access to your gear that way, and keep your fleet. Its not hard to do things, as long as you have a team that knows what they are doing.
Crytpic has done the best thing they could for this game, because even for most casual players, that play it for the social experiance, as adults, THINK ITS TOO EASY.
Cryptic, and the team SAID you could not just pug the new stuff, so stop trying to join a que from a pug group. Expecially while everyone that knows what to do is power leveling.
I say thank you cryptic, for taking us in a brighter, better direction!
The elitism in this is astounding. The issue isn't people not knowing how to build a ship, or anything of the such. While I'm sure there are issues with this, you make the arrogant assumption in this game everyone is a moron but yourself, and prove your own ignorance. When 5 people that are dropping 11k+ have to concentrate fire on something to kill it in a reasonable amount of time, something is wrong.
Plus Fleet Alert cannot function in its current form. It's meant that players of all levels can run it but that cannot happen the way it is now, so yes they need to call attention to it. If you still want a challenge, run an elite at max level. They make them for a reason. That or throw all white gear on your ship.
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Just thought this would be interesting to chew over.
The ship listing for the Eclipse Intel Cruiser in the Zen store states that there is a Lt. Commander slot but at the ship yard and upon using it, it is only Lt.
Lol, took me a bit of reading to find out that the Zen store listing for that ship was just a bit off... knew it was too good to be true Might want to correct that soon.
Just to clarify, this does not pertain to me.
I have done all of this.
When a ship is shooting you from off of the map, spawning endless assistance, and you can't target it because it's off of the map, you have to fly all of the way across the map to get to it, and it has fully healed by then, AND every mission I played scaled according to the team I played it with...no amount of build knowledge and/or teamwork will help that much.
By what your saying, it does apply to you, you just don't really know what you are doing, or want to admit it.
Calm down, when the servers are back up, take my advice, and find a good team, because it seems you keep insisting on doing this, but it also seems the way you are describing this, your PUGGING IT.
Stop PUGGING IT, and it get a coordinated team, and learn how FUN and NON time consuming it still is.
Just thought this would be interesting to chew over.
The ship listing for the Eclipse Intel Cruiser in the Zen store states that there is a Lt. Commander slot but at the ship yard and upon using it, it is only Lt.
Lol, took me a bit of reading to find out that the Zen store listing for that ship was just a bit off... knew it was too good to be true Might want to correct that soon.
One more hour to go and back to the fun.
Da Khat
Shh don't tell them about the bugs they may actually fix them
You folks do realize running around calling people 'bads' doesn't make them want to join your fleets...correct?
A fleet is a group of people working together to achieve something. Why would you want to give your benefits (Whatever they may be) to people who treat others in such a way?
The elitism in this is astounding. The issue isn't people not knowing how to build a ship, or anything of the such. While I'm sure there are issues with this, you make the arrogant assumption in this game everyone is a moron but yourself, and prove your own ignorance. When 5 people that are dropping 11k+ have to concentrate fire on something to kill it in a reasonable amount of time, something is wrong.
Plus Fleet Alert cannot function in its current form. It's meant that players of all levels can run it but that cannot happen the way it is now, so yes they need to call attention to it. If you still want a challenge, run an elite at max level. They make them for a reason. That or throw all white gear on your ship.
Here, here.
NEW content should be harder; making existing content harder is basically alienating most new players, and this is judging by a massive amount of posts I've seen here, and in other places all over the internet addressing this very topic.
"Join Date: Jun 2012" Says Cryptic's "new" forum system. I've been here since a week before launch, but SOME stuff just didn't carry over through multiple system changes/updates. :rolleyes:
PUGging the old KSE was a blast with a group of lowbie cruisers, and you know we're all high-5ing each other if we get lucky and get a player with a built shimmy. It stops being fun when normal requires everyone to have an average 20 million damage output for the whole mission. And for 480 dilith reward for an advanced match it's not worth the time to run the mission. We can grind more in less time running random patrols.
The elitism in this is astounding. The issue isn't people not knowing how to build a ship, or anything of the such. While I'm sure there are issues with this, you make the arrogant assumption in this game everyone is a moron but yourself, and prove your own ignorance. When 5 people that are dropping 11k+ have to concentrate fire on something to kill it in a reasonable amount of time, something is wrong.
Plus Fleet Alert cannot function in its current form. It's meant that players of all levels can run it but that cannot happen the way it is now, so yes they need to call attention to it. If you still want a challenge, run an elite at max level. They make them for a reason. That or throw all white gear on your ship.
By what your saying, it does apply to you, you just don't really know what you are doing, or want to admit it.
Calm down, when the servers are back up, take my advice, and find a good team, because it seems you keep insisting on doing this, but it also seems the way you are describing this, your PUGGING IT.
Stop PUGGING IT, and it get a coordinated team, and learn how FUN and NON time consuming it still is.
I'm not PUGGING story missions...or anything else.
There is massive amount of glitches, and the enemies have insane abilities that scale with my team.
I KNOW what I'm doing, you jerk!
I've been stomping ALL content in this game until Delta Rising came along with it's Vaadwaur lunacy, and it's 700k Hull Hit Points.
Basically, my 4-years+ experience has gone completely out the window.
That's ridiculously insulting.
"Join Date: Jun 2012" Says Cryptic's "new" forum system. I've been here since a week before launch, but SOME stuff just didn't carry over through multiple system changes/updates. :rolleyes:
The elitism in this is astounding. The issue isn't people not knowing how to build a ship, or anything of the such. While I'm sure there are issues with this, you make the arrogant assumption in this game everyone is a moron but yourself, and prove your own ignorance. When 5 people that are dropping 11k+ have to concentrate fire on something to kill it in a reasonable amount of time, something is wrong.
Plus Fleet Alert cannot function in its current form. It's meant that players of all levels can run it but that cannot happen the way it is now, so yes they need to call attention to it. If you still want a challenge, run an elite at max level. They make them for a reason. That or throw all white gear on your ship.
You have a science gank? or are all five of you tactical wanna be DPSERS? If your pulling 11k DPS your doing something wrong, as tac.
And my good sir, if you knew me, you would know i am not an "elitist" i run the best most casual tier 5 fleet system of alliances in the game i have seen, ever. We just help our people get their fun, by having fun with em and keeping them informed. If this makes me an elitist, so be it, i guess i am.
Hpow is saying go meet some people, being elitist? i thought most elitist were in the 30k DPS channel, i am not Just the 10k.
You know, its a thing called team work.
Sometimes we also like to use a word called diversity, you know, bring a tank, 1 healer, and 1 science ganker, and 2 DPS heavy Tacs or something.
DPS dont matter, team work does. No where did i say anything about DPS, except in this post.
So heres the deal to all the nay sayers, and whiners ive seen in this thread, about them wanting cryptic to "nerf" the advanced/elite. Get over it, and learn a build, and put it together.
if you cannot do the new stuff you have one or multiple of the problems i am going to list.
1. You dont actually know a decent ship build. ( gear level is not that important )
2. Your skill tree, you have that all messed up don't you?
3. Your not level 60, SO do normals, until you are max level.
4. Remember Normals were all you could do at level 44-45t to level 50?? Well they should make you do normals from 50-55 so you all quit whining.
5. Your too, unknowlegeable, or unaware how FREE to play this game is, without even needed to cheat, with a macro or anything to make dilithium, and turn it into zen.
Your only whining because cryptic is forcing you to play content, your not "used to".
I would suggest to you, temporarely find a fleet, that is willing to help you learn some actual knowledge about the game, and play with them. Most people have fleet channels, and they are basically "fleet alliances".
If your an owner of a small fleet, make an alt toon and go meet some people. For petes sake this is an MMO, its not meant to be played solo. These are meant to be social games. Join an alliance, with a tier 5 fleet, and get access to your gear that way, and keep your fleet. Its not hard to do things, as long as you have a team that knows what they are doing.
Crytpic has done the best thing they could for this game, because even for most casual players, that play it for the social experiance, as adults, THINK ITS TOO EASY. ( you know, the actual money providers for the game. )
Cryptic, and the team SAID you could not just pug the new stuff, so stop trying to join a que from a pug group. Expecially while everyone that knows what to do is power leveling.
I say thank you cryptic, for taking us in a brighter, better direction!
We all happily accept your generous invitation to join your fleet so that you can teach us how to properly play STO.:P
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The elitism in this is astounding. The issue isn't people not knowing how to build a ship, or anything of the such. While I'm sure there are issues with this, you make the arrogant assumption in this game everyone is a moron but yourself, and prove your own ignorance. When 5 people that are dropping 11k+ have to concentrate fire on something to kill it in a reasonable amount of time, something is wrong.
Plus Fleet Alert cannot function in its current form. It's meant that players of all levels can run it but that cannot happen the way it is now, so yes they need to call attention to it. If you still want a challenge, run an elite at max level. They make them for a reason. That or throw all white gear on your ship.
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I guess it's the wrong week for the maintence guys to quit sniffing glue:D
Just thought this would be interesting to chew over.
The ship listing for the Eclipse Intel Cruiser in the Zen store states that there is a Lt. Commander slot but at the ship yard and upon using it, it is only Lt.
Lol, took me a bit of reading to find out that the Zen store listing for that ship was just a bit off... knew it was too good to be true
One more hour to go and back to the fun.
Da Khat
By what your saying, it does apply to you, you just don't really know what you are doing, or want to admit it.
Calm down, when the servers are back up, take my advice, and find a good team, because it seems you keep insisting on doing this, but it also seems the way you are describing this, your PUGGING IT.
Stop PUGGING IT, and it get a coordinated team, and learn how FUN and NON time consuming it still is.
Shh don't tell them about the bugs they may actually fix them
don't jinx it :-p
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Here, here.
NEW content should be harder; making existing content harder is basically alienating most new players, and this is judging by a massive amount of posts I've seen here, and in other places all over the internet addressing this very topic.
Guess its the wrong week for the Dev's to quit smoking.
Im not going to lie.. they was the best thing said on this forum today.. thank you good sir.
No. I think the doctor mistook them for lasagna and ate them.
The devs have been sent home for the night, and will try again in the morning.
hahaha i don't think i can recover from that one
Guess it was the wrong week for the coders to quit crack.
Neelix still owes me for the bad Angla'bosque he made once.
The maintence guys fixing the server "I GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE! I GOT TO GET OUR OF HERE"
Smirk 'Everything is going to be all right SMACK"
Trendy "Smirk your wanted on the forums. Everything is going to be all right SMACK"
Line forms behind Trendy everyone with blunt objects
PUGging the old KSE was a blast with a group of lowbie cruisers, and you know we're all high-5ing each other if we get lucky and get a player with a built shimmy. It stops being fun when normal requires everyone to have an average 20 million damage output for the whole mission. And for 480 dilith reward for an advanced match it's not worth the time to run the mission. We can grind more in less time running random patrols.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
I'm not PUGGING story missions...or anything else.
There is massive amount of glitches, and the enemies have insane abilities that scale with my team.
I KNOW what I'm doing, you jerk!
I've been stomping ALL content in this game until Delta Rising came along with it's Vaadwaur lunacy, and it's 700k Hull Hit Points.
Basically, my 4-years+ experience has gone completely out the window.
That's ridiculously insulting.
Running a server is just like riding a bicycle! Except it's a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
Are you telling us the truth Smirk
Smirk "NO WE ARE ALSO OUT OF COFFEE"
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You have a science gank? or are all five of you tactical wanna be DPSERS? If your pulling 11k DPS your doing something wrong, as tac.
And my good sir, if you knew me, you would know i am not an "elitist" i run the best most casual tier 5 fleet system of alliances in the game i have seen, ever. We just help our people get their fun, by having fun with em and keeping them informed. If this makes me an elitist, so be it, i guess i am.
Hpow is saying go meet some people, being elitist? i thought most elitist were in the 30k DPS channel, i am not
You know, its a thing called team work.
Sometimes we also like to use a word called diversity, you know, bring a tank, 1 healer, and 1 science ganker, and 2 DPS heavy Tacs or something.
DPS dont matter, team work does. No where did i say anything about DPS, except in this post.
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silly you poor a can of coke classic in the power supply it makes it gooey and slows down the fan so you can just stick the cards to it.
We all happily accept your generous invitation to join your fleet so that you can teach us how to properly play STO.:P