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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Aka, the following missions are disabled:

    Azure Nebula Rescue
    Khitomer Vortex
    No Win Scenario
    Storming the Spire
    The Vault

    Why?!?

    Queue missions have ship requirements to keep shuttles out and Delta Rising has different queues by level bracket. My guess is that they either goofed up on the brackets or forgot to allow T6 ships in some of those and decided it was better to suspend the mission while they rush fixes into a later patch this week than to have them stay live in a messed up form.

    Keep in mind that devs work on different pieces of the same code so these kinds of things could be introduced as errors when fusing together the code base. So somebody makes a spreadsheet typo and fixes it but the error version was in the character artist's copy of the code, for example, which accidentally got used instead of the corrected one.
  • firekeeperhufirekeeperhu Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Queue missions have ship requirements to keep shuttles out and Delta Rising has different queues by level bracket. My guess is that they either goofed up on the brackets or forgot to allow T6 ships in some of those and decided it was better to suspend the mission while they rush fixes into a later patch this week than to have them stay live in a messed up form.

    Keep in mind that devs work on different pieces of the same code so these kinds of things could be introduced as errors when fusing together the code base. So somebody makes a spreadsheet typo and fixes it but the error version was in the character artist's copy of the code, for example, which accidentally got used instead of the corrected one.

    but if this is the issue that would affect all pve queues, wouldn't it?
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  • varekraithvarekraith Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    maxxina wrote: »
    Yea. like me zen stucked on dil exchange for 6 + weeks

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1214751

    Wow, that stinks.
    :mad:
  • mackbolan01mackbolan01 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    wipe the out, all of them !!!!!!
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    One thing worries me a bit:

    Einige Schiffskonsolen k
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  • varekraithvarekraith Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    One thing worries me a bit:

    • Einige Schiffskonsolen können nicht wieder eingefordert werden, sobald das Schiff aufgewertet wurde.

    • Some ship cconsoles can no longer be claimed as soon as you upgrade your ship.

    Say what?! What's got upgrading my ships have to do with fitted consoles?!

    I'm just not going to upgrade any of my ships or equipment until a patch or two from release.
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I always wished you guys would follow the Scotty rule of time estimates instead of the Geordi rule. Watch the episode Relics if you have no idea what that means. lol

    [scottish accent]"It would normally take me eight hours, but I'll do it for you in four...[/scottish accent]

    :)
    CM
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  • qordaqqordaq Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    One thing worries me a bit:

    • Einige Schiffskonsolen können nicht wieder eingefordert werden, sobald das Schiff aufgewertet wurde.

    • Some ship cconsoles can no longer be claimed as soon as you upgrade your ship.

    Say what?! What's got upgrading my ships have to do with fitted consoles?!

    On Tribble there were issues with some consoles disappearing when ships were upgraded (it's basically a whole new ship and they were not slotting correctly or something)... Some of those consoles were reclaimable.

    What I intend to do, just to be safe, is remove most of my gear from my ship (but especially consoles) before I upgrade, then just re-slot everything afterwards myself.

    maj!
    Previously: QorDaq
    Operations Team, 12th Fleet
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    One thing worries me a bit:

    • Einige Schiffskonsolen können nicht wieder eingefordert werden, sobald das Schiff aufgewertet wurde.

    • Some ship cconsoles can no longer be claimed as soon as you upgrade your ship.

    Say what?! What's got upgrading my ships have to do with fitted consoles?!

    I dont think we really upgrade the ships, but rather get a new copy of our ship in the 5.5 version. Maybe it is a game mechanic problem?

    So you better unequip your ship before upgrading.
  • djmetal1981djmetal1981 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    So this is a console thing...doesn't apply to weapons, right? Cause the Dyson, last I tried anyway, wouldn't let me take off the Proton cannon.
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  • sanokskyratsanokskyrat Member Posts: 479 Media Corps
    edited October 2014
    where are these patch notes?
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,486 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    where are these patch notes?

    German Patch Notes
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Well if the date and time of the maintenance are all thats going to go wrong that's probably a good thing.
  • bubblebaflebubblebafle Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    So this is a console thing...doesn't apply to weapons, right? Cause the Dyson, last I tried anyway, wouldn't let me take off the Proton cannon.

    That would be neat.. lol. If we could remove the proton cannon, the dyson destroyers will have use again!.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    but if this is the issue that would affect all pve queues, wouldn't it?

    Each queue has its own spreadsheet entries for allowed levels and ships, I think. They could have one that requires a level 66 player in a Tier 2 ship without necessarily affecting the other queue events, I think. They can probably lock out individual species from any one queue too, I think.

    So you could have something like Gorn+Fed vs. ALL Rom+KDF PvP or a queue with Fed Klingons on the KDF side in PvP or the like. Or PvE with spawn point by species, maybe? That might take hackery but seems reasonably doable from what I know.
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    qordaq wrote: »
    On Tribble there were issues with some consoles disappearing when ships were upgraded (it's basically a whole new ship and they were not slotting correctly or something)... Some of those consoles were reclaimable.

    What I intend to do, just to be safe, is remove most of my gear from my ship (but especially consoles) before I upgrade, then just re-slot everything afterwards myself.

    maj!

    Holy batman, that is serious! Thanks! Imagine my rage (and wrath) if I were to lose, say, my shiny Ultra Rare Mk XIII Tachyo!

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!

    (Or GEKOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! rather)
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,005 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    That would be fertig, rather. :)

    No, just read it in Horst Lichter's voice :D
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  • bubblebaflebubblebafle Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    vividh wrote: »
    They announced it on their FB page, patch notes would be really long today... maybe thats whats holding them up :)

    Yay, like A LOT of people i dont use FB at all. I guess trying to post something like "the maintenance has started, servers are down, etc" in the forums is too complicated :P
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    angrytarg wrote: »
    No, just read it in Horst Lichter's voice :D

    Lafer approves :P
  • darthraiderxxxdarthraiderxxx Member Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think some of you are misunderstanding the console issue. If i understand the German patchnotes correctly, it is about some special consoles that come with certain C-store ships not being reclaimable from the C-store once you have discharged them. If you don't discharge those consoles = no problem. Still needs to be fixed asap but nothing that will stop me from upgrading my ships.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    As a side note, it might be interesting to have queued events that are all escort/raider/destroyer, all cruiser/carrier, all science/warbird, etc.

    Like a single basic queued event but with difficulty and optionals tuned by ship class.
  • sammyspet1sammyspet1 Member Posts: 212 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yay, like A LOT of people i dont use FB at all. I guess trying to post something like "the maintenance has started, servers are down, etc" in the forums is too complicated :P

    really they didnt oh yes they did lol. plus the little red dot on the launcher lol i guess people dont look
    Captains! Our maintenance is beginning shortly. We expect it to last 4 hours, in preparation for Delta Rising. Get ready!!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    wanted to beat the Delta Meme n00bs LOL
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  • peetapipmacpeetapipmac Member Posts: 2,131 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    questerius wrote: »

    My google translate had some fun with that. Yeesh!
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  • snakeswar2snakeswar2 Member Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    yup maitanence is ongoing, they forgot the patch notes and already pushed the expansion onto holodeck since i am not seeing redshirt aymore and downloading the expansion onto holodeck
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    My google translate had some fun with that. Yeesh!

    You should have asked some of us native german speakers.

    We can englisch god speeking
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I think some of you are misunderstanding the console issue. If i understand the German patchnotes correctly, it is about some special consoles that come with certain C-store ships not being reclaimable from the C-store once you have discharged them. If you don't discharge those consoles = no problem. Still needs to be fixed asap but nothing that will stop me from upgrading my ships.

    I guess there are 2 console issues. ;) Not being able to reclaim a console is one thing (and also needs to be fixed asap, as you say); but them getting blackholed, upon upgrading your ship, is far more serious, IMHO.
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  • qjuniorqjunior Member Posts: 2,023 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    snakeswar2 wrote: »
    yup maitanence is ongoing, they forgot the patch notes and already pushed the expansion onto holodeck since i am not seeing redshirt aymore and downloading the expansion onto holodeck

    Please don't ever quit your job and become an investigator of any kind, thanks ! :P
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meimeitoo wrote: »
    Holy batman, that is serious! Thanks! Imagine my rage (and wrath) if I were to lose, say, my shiny Ultra Rare Mk XIII Tachyo!

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!

    (Or GEKOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! rather)

    What happened is this: the Tier 5U version wasn't set as allowable to equip the console. So it couldn't be transferred to the T5U ship. I think they got those fixed but they should be able to manually look you up and restore it. Ideally, it should be that consoles like this go in your overflow bag or get mailed to you as a fail safe. It would be a good idea for down the road if they ever end up changing ship console layouts or requirements anyway.

    Basically though, for example, the T5U Fleet, T5U non-fleet, T5 fleet, and c-Store dreadnoughts are 4 different ships in the database. If they forgot to include one of the T5U ships on, say, the saucer sep console's list of allowed ships, the console would fail to transfer on upgrade and vanish with the old ship in the upgrade.
  • minmacdougalminmacdougal Member Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    My google translate had some fun with that. Yeesh!

    Bing translator is a bit more accurate for me. Google lost favor to me in that department.
  • saedeithsaedeith Member Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    6.6 gig patch. Not too bad.
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