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The Kazon tech story upgrade seems lazy...
dark4blood
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Unless Cryptic explains that Seska's Son helped the Kazon by leading them, this idea that the Kazon could adapt so quickly to Alpha Quadrant tech is ridiculous.
Kazon Raider [T5]
Kazon vessels were the scourge of the U.S.S. Voyager's early days in the Delta Quadrant. Though relatively low-tech compared to many other species' modern starships, they were used effectively by the ruthless Kazon in numerous encounters. Over the years since their encounters with Captain Janeway, the Kazon have salvaged, scavenged and raided all manner of updated technology, further enhancing the threat they pose to the more civilized races of the Delta Quadrant.
Kazon Raider [T5]
Kazon vessels were the scourge of the U.S.S. Voyager's early days in the Delta Quadrant. Though relatively low-tech compared to many other species' modern starships, they were used effectively by the ruthless Kazon in numerous encounters. Over the years since their encounters with Captain Janeway, the Kazon have salvaged, scavenged and raided all manner of updated technology, further enhancing the threat they pose to the more civilized races of the Delta Quadrant.
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All their ships were stolen from the trabe. They could just as easily keep stealing. They'd always be a few steps behind, and that's exactly how it feels when you fight them.
They're weaker than Borg, voth and undine. About as tough as breen in my limited time on tribble. Which isn't a compliment to them. They're not powerful. They just haven't stagnated.
When you're talking orders-of-magnitude advances, yeah. As presented, Kazon tech might have been between Ent and TOS levels. Jumping from that to T5 in a single generation is impressive.
Honestly though, this whole game has so jumped the shark with this expansion, who cares anymore? Once upon a time, it felt like the game was made by fanboys with some 'gotta pay the bills' stuff tacked on. Now it seems more like a business with some fan concessions. There may be some good writers and game-balance people who really care still, but whoever is making the top decisions clearly does not, so why should we?
Compare the advances in the past ten years to the twenty years before...compare those twenty years to the forty years before...compare those forty years to the eighty before, etc, etc, etc.
I had a TRS 80.
Things can happen.
Heh, that made me think back to my Betamax with a wired remote.
Ah yes the good old days no cable tv just analog an by gosh dont stand so close to the antenna lol and pong
I originally watched The Thing on Beta.
Took like 4 hours because the machine kept on breaking.
32 years ago I was listening to the Beach Boys on 8 track. 8 track sucked!
I had to buy soft drinks bottled in hard glass, and carry them in a cardboard case!
Technology is super fast!
system Lord Baal is dead
Yep. Because it is star trek and that is what we do...
Have you watched network TV recently?
I was the remote. :P
Sarah Knightly - Co-leader; Frontier Explorers - U.S.S. Witchblade
Rias Gremory - Leader; Frontier Marauders - I.K.S. B'ullwinkle
So about 100 year advancement in 32 years?
Of course... 40 years ago 40 Federation ships couldn't dent a Borg Cube. Nowadays, a single Escort blows up a Borg Cube in 10 seconds. That seems more like going from a Musket to an anti-tank missile.
Well, everything happens fast once you get replicators. Plenty of Delta races seemed to have them once you got just outside the Kazon part of space. Maybe their encounter with Voyager led them to track down replicators elsewhere in the quadrant.
Once you have those, you can make other upgrades rapidly.
Now, hull configurations take time but Klingons have shown that you can keep or exceed pace with anyone if you don't make a priority out of fiddling with the hull configurations.
They've stolen lots of new stuff and stuck that to their ships.
seems legit
system Lord Baal is dead
Think about there society there not scientists there conquerors.
They got the tech we saw on the show 32 years ago by killing off there masters.... which means they went from even more primitive to flying around space.
There is nothing saying that in the last 32 years they wouldn't have subjugated a few more civilizations or colonies at least. They seemed to be pretty darn good scavangers. It seems reasonable that hey would have been upgrading there ships with what they managed to put under there boot through sheer will.
The khazon where always underdeveloped. On the show they should have been the non hive version of the borg. Where all there ships should have looked a bit different as different maj (what ever there leaders called themselves) strapped bits and pieces of salvage to there ships. They would have been more interesting.
Anyway ya I say T5/5U is not that much of a jump from where they where. Lets also get real... I remember Doc McCoy visiting the Picardprise season one. So obviously it doesn't take 100s of years go jump from TOS tech to Next Gen.
more like a flyswatter to a thermal nuclear warhead... and just cause the ship is T5 does not mean it starts for all we know the battery is dead :P i mean this is the KAZON after all lol also has anyone else noticed what console apparently comes with the kazons ship? lol can we say opps
The Kazon Raider is a Tier 5 Starship. It can be upgraded to T5-U with a Starship Upgrade Requisition.
Tier: 5 (Can be upgraded to T5-U)
Faction: All
Rank Required: Rear Admiral / Brigadier General / Sub Admiral I
Availability: Delta Expedition Lock Box
Hull Strength:
27,000
Shield Modifier:
0.8
Crew: 80
Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
Device Slots: 2
Bridge Officer Stations: 1 Lieutenant Tactical, 1 Commander Tactical, 1 Ensign Universal, 1 Lieutenant Universal, 1 Lt Commander Universal
Console Modifications: 4 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 3 Science
Base Turn Rate: 19 degrees per second
Impulse Modifier: 0.2
Inertia: 70
+15 Weapon Power
Can Load Dual Cannons
Console – Universal – Hazari Shield Drone
Matter-Antimatter Warp Core
Raider Flanking
+25% Damage to NPC enemy when attacking rear arc
+8.3% Damage to Player enemywhen attacking rear arc
That said... Remember - these are ships from the Lobi Consortium. The same guys that can turn an Undine Bioship into a Tier5 (Upgradeable) vessel for non-Undine. I figure they shouldn't have such a big problem of upgrading Kazon ship components where necessary.
And hey, who did they have to pillage exactly? All those xenophobic empires that kicked voyagers TRIBBLE left and right? Yeah good luck with that.
I am flat our AMAZED that in 32 years noone started mopping up the khazon and just exterminating them.
the problem the kazon had was even though they were warlike they were scattered into different sects. if they pooled their resources together they would be quite formidable in numbers and ruthlessness. its very conceivable they could have could have stolen tech from any number of other worlds, or taken inspiration from data they acquired from voyager or seska.
Lol, only you would find something like this on the internet!
:P
Reminds me of a certain (been re-edited) car insurance commercial! :rolleyes:
http://www.esurance.com/commercials/larry
Praetor of the -RTS- Romulan Tal Shiar fleet!
You are forgetting this is the Kazon being discussed - those guys couldn't even spell technological progress let alone actually make it.
They have scavenged, salvaged and raided to get to their current level.
The Kazon still lack the understanding, but nothing prevents them from using that technology.