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Up to now, weapons have only been mounted front and back. How about adding slots on the side that can equip dual heavy cannons on some ships particularly cruisers. Which would allow for broadside naval style battles. In addition add an ability to move the guns from the left and right and add a cool down. I think this would allow for some interesting combat.
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If Starlfeet is to build a warship, which is essentially what you are pitching, I wouldnt recommend side-facing weapons but standard 360 adaptive beam arrays. This would protect your sides but would cause significantly less overall damage than a standard beam array or dual beam bank. A true warship isnt just a flying fortress of weaponry. A stronger hull plating, stronger, more adaptive weaponry and 2 hangars would do the trick more effectively than side cannons, IMHO.
ALSO, I would love the idea of a feedback shield array it collects energy from every hit of an energy-type weapon then, when fully charged, can be dispersed in a singular powerful burst. Pros: great AOE damage. Cons: Your shields would be offline until they recharged, leaving you exposed.
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The Akira ought to be able to do it. It had broadsiding in mind when it was design. Granted, that was with torpedoes and not cannons, but it should be simple enough as far as refits go.
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Cryptic was considering a broadsiding ship but from what I remember there were some technical difficulties in making it work and how it would appear.
Al Geko talks about boadsiders, and an Andorian broadsider, in at least two Priority One interviews. I've read that he mentions them in episode 170, not a confirmation though.
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True, but the Akira isn't a standard cruiser, either. It's an escort on steroids... and one of my favorite ship designs. LOL
Code or not, side-mounted beams are a HORRIBLE idea. First off, if you have a standard fore/aft array config you're covered 360 degrees. What do people want side-mounted weapons for? To clear up aft weapon space... bah!
I would concede and say side-mounted turrets are an idea a max of 2 per side. Again, they fire 360 but would make more sense than beam arrays.
I WISH we could actually have hardpoints like BSGO, but at least we have content.
Side mounted weapons could be a possibility for a specialty ship, I suppose. There would need to be limitations on it, though. Imagine a ship with a 360 degree DHC loadout. It could just spin around and around to distrubute incoming fire damage, while always being on target.
Now if you're talking about weapons ONLY being on the sides, then I guess it could work with cannons and turrets, but that's essentially just a 4 fore 4 aft loadout with one side being your fore, the other your aft. However, when you bring beams into the equation, it would allow for 8 beams to hit the target at once if you have the target within a decent line of fire.
Like the Death Blossom from Last Starfighter?
I was thinking torpedoes along the side....
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Nice reference! And that's exactly why we wouldn't be able to have a 2/2/2/2 configuration with DHCs.
BTW, popping CRP and Evasive in an XYZ reverse on an escort loaded w/turrets looks pretty much the same as that scene. Fun to see, bad in practicality.
it's only an escort in this game. every thing else classifies it as a heavy cruiser
Its the NX but withthe nacelles pointed downward. Not that there is anything wrong with that; it is one of my favorite designs as well.
Beams and Turrets would not make much of a difference. Cannons and Torpedo Launchers would play differently but not actually be any more powerful than they are now. The same limitations would be there just with a different use.
You had best make sure that kill with it. That things puts your whole ship in a two minute cooldown.
No Thanks. If I wanted an ancient sailing ship with broadsiding cannons, I'd go find a sailing or pirate sim,...
Beams, beams are what is supposed to cover your sides. In Trek, beams are almost 360, torpedos DO NOT have a limited firing arc, they are homing missiles,... Can fire in any direction and they will fly to target, even behind you. Start treating ship weapons like the real thing and end this broadsiding nonsense.
This game and people in it are far, far too obsessed with cannons. There are only a few ships in Trek cannon that actually have cannons, let alone ONLY cannons.
Lets bring some reality back to our trek.
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Beam strips have extremely large arcs to the point side mounted versions would be kinda pointless. Not to mention that combat in this game is shallow enough to make it equally worthless.
All that would happen is FAW spam getting worse with more weapons to spam with.
You want to argue cannons - Why would you put weapons on the SIDE of the ship which requires you to expose a greater profile to your target which ALSO forces you to increase overall armor.
Maneuverability in this game is not that bad to make side cannons worth using. Any ship that cumbersome would be unplayable in this game and completely curb stomped against everything else.
The closest you might come to this idea is the equivalent of an Artillery Battleship with weapons that do fantastic damage the further away the target is. This strays heavily into EVE Online territory which I have no doubt the majority of STO's population could not handle and would whine heavily about.
True....
Still, it's phaser-heavy, not broadside heavy.
Actually, how many starships would actually benefit from broadside armaments? Large, slow-moving carriers and citadel-type ships I would assume, but not cruiser-size or less.
I wasn't entirely joking either when I suggested a Jupiter-class broadside warship. in the 3-ship pack thread a ew pages back, as well as discussed it off and on in Earth Spacedock Zone chat, though the idea simply used the Fused weapon concept of the Dysons and the Tempest Tail Gun with altered firing arcs to serve as "side weapons". Of course, if we have to be more traditional, Beam Banks instead of cannons to cover the side fields which would still allow for more damage than just equipping multiple front/rear Beam Arrays.
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What I would like is for ALL ships to get one "Side weapon slot": This slot works on both sides; can only fit Torpedoes or mines.
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even increase the damage on torps and missiles and limit the number you can carry if you in anything but easy mode.
From what I've seen of the models and animations and stuff, slotted weapons aren't associated with a particular weapons hard point on a ship model. For example the KCB slotted on a rear slot would sometimes shoot from a front hard point.
So to get a proper broadside/cannons ship you'd just need specific weapons who's arcs only point left and right. And then a specific ship to use them, strapping broadside weapons on the ships we have for example would produce some strange results. Many ships have odd weapon points.
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