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since dilithium is highly on demand especially with the new upgrade system why should cryptics not raise the cap. imo 8k (if veteran 1k more and from dilithium mine 500 more) is way to low. i can understand that cryptics wants to earn money and want us to buy more zen. but atleast raise the cap for Gold and Lifetime players as we have spend real life money in the game already
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Wow. How bout you take that lovely 500 zen a month you get and covert to dilithium? Not costing you anything since you're a lifer. Keep asking for handouts when you already have tools available.
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Now as another gold/veteran since 2010 I dont feel I am entitled to anything more then what has already been given to me. The cap has been there since f2p and for a reason if you have to have it now spend zen to get the dilithium if not then start to learn how to save.
Why? It was perfectly stable when it was at 3 to 4 hundred Dil per zen.
Because 120 - 130 per zen is a lot more favorable to those of us who want to buy zen
Yes, this is what I consider to be the "real value" of the dilithium. It was at this value for a very long time in the modern game (where there are actually things to spend dilithium). At twice that you're really only refining 4000 a day etc...
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Another thread about this topic?
Is this like the 4th one in the past 7 days?
Why should hard core players that play all day have such an income disparity compared to people that have trouble filling up the refinement cap? Especially if Cryptic has noted that many people do indeed not fill up the refinement cap.
And it is very un-favourable for the guy who paid real money (at some level, but most commonly by buying Zen directly) so they could sell you some Zen for your Dil. All Zen had a real cost, even surveys and freebie Zen as rewards, it isn't some magic pie in the sky where Dil grinders get Zen from, it is a real world currency made available to F2Pers.
In fact, 1 Zen is actually worth much, much less than it should be in terms of refined Dil - index it to master keys or Fleet Ship Modules and 1 Zen is devalued by about 50 Dil if it is placed on the exchange. (the devaluing exists as time spent actually turning Zen->player earnt EC->player earnt Contraband->Doffing->Refined Dil)
The only correct price for Dil/Zen is what both buyer and seller are happy with.
Don't like how little Dil your real money paid for Zen gets? Turn it into Refined Dil via Contraband, get its full value.
Don't like how little Zen your real time invested Dil gets? Wait for an impatient Zen Seller.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1234281
I swear I must be having deja vu...
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
You and me both. This is the third dil cap thread in as many weeks. If a forum mod reads this pleasd consider locking/merging or moving this thread and the other relating to the issue to the FCT section.
Don't even try to come with this kind of idea. Many before you tried and all give up, this forum is lead by by the player who just want their free stuff. they don't care about anything else and you will never win against them.
I dont get the people who says that the refined cap should NOT be increased. So, do you expect cryptic to keep adding mechanics that drains our dilithium and keeping the refined cap still?? something fails here.. dont you see? xD.
They say that because if the refine cap is increase the value of the dilithium will go down.
So they will need to farm more dilithium for have a free ship. That it nothing else.
I have to ask you, and everyone else out there making this same argument, how much dilithium do you think you're going to use?
How many times are you going to upgrade the same gear on each character?
Yes, something shiney and new might come along, but once you've upgraded your existing Elite Fleet or Rep gear once, you don't need to do it again, meaning you can then sit back and watch your dilithium reserves grow...
The upgrade system is no worse than hitting level 50 and then investing in a full suite of top-end gear...
If Cryptic did not implement the upgrade system, we'd all be purchasing NEW GEAR OUTRIGHT... You think it's expensive to upgrade? I actually suspect I'm gonna spend less dilithium going from Mk XII to Mk XIV than I did buying all of my current gear to begin with...
Worst case scenario, I end up spending about the same amount of dilithium...
The current cap is adequate for the vast majority of players and, as some have already said, most people will not hit that cap every single day... I know I don't between 12 hour shifts at work, and real-life commitments on my days off, I simply don't have the time to hit the cap on any characters some days, let alone all my characters...
The problem with this as an FCT may be that there is no official word on the topic. I mean, the official reaction is - nothing happens - but people will probably want to read something like "No, because..."
8000 is just a number. Stop thinking about it in terms of if I have 1000 more dil per day, I'll have 1000 more buying power'. This is a fallacy. Rather, think of it in terms of, 'everything in the game will cost 12.5%(1/8th) more because the economy is measured by how many characters are capping per day' and your buying power will remain the same.
If you want more dilithium per day, LEVEL MORE CHARACTERS.
Ok. I see your point. But then, i guess in a few months nobody will be playing STO. Its really funny when people always recommend even more grind and more to just keep up with the dilithium drain mechanics. If this is the way this game is headed, a lot of people are going to migrate sooner rather than later.
Yup, it think so. And almost 99,9% of the player base thinks the same. And if you think that... lol, think twice. Because one thing is to upgrade from XII to XIII. Other completely different is to upgrade to XIV. And dont even think to upgrade to epic lol. It seems to me that you are one of those rich players who doesnt care to throw thousands of $ to the store, right? :P
I know, its becoming a joke. I think its time these topics were closed and moved into the FAQ section. How many more times can the same question be asked with the same answers?
Things change. Now, we have another feature in the game that requires high quantities of dilithium. So, at this rate we will need to save for months to just buy a couple of personal items because we also need to save for other thousands of things. This happened before, but in minor grade. But now, its completely different. So, new topics about this are pretty normal.
Do you think the developers set these prices but completely forgot that people have a dilitihium refinement cap?
The prices of everything in the game are set fully considering the dilithium refinement.
Fleet Projects, Fleet Stores, Reputation Stores, Crafting, and now Upgrades.
When Cryptic sets a price, they always implicitely know much time it will cost on average to get there.
Asking for a higher refinement cap is the same as asking Cryptic to make stuff cheaper, with the caveat: Cheaper only for people that max the new cap. For others, it's still just as expensive as before. Which is probably a reason Cryptic will never go the route of increasing the cap, because they don't want casual players to feel completely overwhelmed by the amount of Dilithium needed.
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I don't just think - I know... I've tested the upgrade system out considerably... Without buying out the time-gates, and using the Superior Upgrade tokens, it's really not that expensive...
I will spend approximately 20,000 dilithium (less than 3 days of max refinement) to upgrade a Mk XII Romulan Plasma Beam to Mk XIV, which is not even as much as I originally paid for them... I will probably then chip at them over time to eventually get them upto Gold quality...
I've been playing for about 2 years and, if I remember correctly, they were reduced in cost some time ago, meaning that upgrading them costs approximately the same amount I would spend if rebuying them at Mk XII level now...
You presume a lot about someone you don't know...
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Yes, even Dil from killing NPC's. 5 dil each kill... :rolleyes:
I guess if you keep throwing darts at the board blindfolded, eventually one of them will hit the bullseye.
That said, similar claims have been made from day 1, yet the game has yet to die. Take from that what you will.
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