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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    1. It happens. It shouldn't, but it does.
    2. You reported them. Good for you.
    3. Why bring it up here when you have already done what needed to be done?


    I smell a troll.
    I need a beer.

  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    No, "trash talk" is what Richard Sherman of the Seattle Seahawks was spouting at the last NFC playoff game, against the San Francisco 49ers.

    "That's what you get!"

    You'll notice that nowhere in that famous rant did Sherman ever threaten to sexually assault anyone. Heck, he never even used any language that would earn a warning under STO's ToS. Some folks still flew off the handle over his rant, of course - the NFL even instituted a new rule this season outlawing trash-talking on the field. (Should we be telling pro football players to man up and quit being offended now?)
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  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Would 'Welcome to the Tribble Fondling Club' work better? :rolleyes:
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  • mirrorterranmirrorterran Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    For the past two days I can't figure out what **** is supposed to be! :D

    Words are words..you can choose to define them differently or simply ignore them. Realize we can't control what other people do or say..yet.

    This was defined and discussed several pages earlier, however the OP seems to have gotten over their tantrum, even though I think player behavior in this game needs to be addressed.
  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    This was defined and discussed several pages earlier, however the OP seems to have gotten over their tantrum, even though I think player behavior in this game needs to be addressed.

    I always put folks like that on ignore. <<shrugs>>
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  • mirrorterranmirrorterran Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I always put folks like that on ignore. <<shrugs>>

    That's great, however every time a new player logs on to try the game and is bombarded by the foulest, must obscene comments known to mankind....they will leave and so should they.
  • strykewolf67strykewolf67 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    That's great, however every time a new player logs on to try the game and is bombarded by the foulest, must obscene comments known to mankind....they will leave and so should they.

    <<chuckles>>

    Oddly enough; it was running into spammers and trash talkers, as a new player; that led to me figuring out how to use chat controls. :D
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  • kahless2001kahless2001 Member Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You should see some of the homophobic TRIBBLE a lot of gamers spout.

    Ignore, report, move on. It's the best advice to follow I think.
  • mirrorterranmirrorterran Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You should see some of the homophobic TRIBBLE a lot of gamers spout.

    Ignore, report, move on. It's the best advice to follow I think.

    Totally agree this is the best advice. The only dog I have in this hunt is the GM report function doesn't work. I don't mean recently I mean 2 years running. I'm not sure if it's a lack of manpower, they are under ridiculous restrictions of what they can do, or what.

    When someone goes on and on about how great it is to have sex with children, or how hitler was right to gas people /put them in ovens, I expect that person to be removed from the game immediately and permanently.

    I shouldn't expect to make 50 reports and still nothing done.
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I was just in a PvP zone when a player from another zone announced in chat "welcome to the **** club, whos first?" Poor punctuation aside, I've reported the offender, and would like to encourage all of my fellow gamers to do the same when they see this kind of behavior. I'm not opposed to a bit of trash talk, but there's no room in this community for such blatantly sexist language.

    What? Someone on the Internet said something that offended you? imagine that perhaps it might be best if you stay off the Internet and continue to watch my little pony reruns
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited September 2014

    STO's pvpers are just some of the most foul mouthed toxic players around, ranking up there with CoD players.

    WOOT THEY LIKE US!!! but seriously if your that easy of a person to get a tear jerker out of then you by all means better stay out of kerrat
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  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    foolishowl wrote: »
    I totally agree. ravenofborg was entirely in the right here. And I'm quite disgusted and disappointed with the sexism of most of the responses in this thread. Not surprised, but disappointed.

    You are the second person to make blanket statements about the posters in this thread, Name a single offense. Just one. If your profanity filter was off that was your first mistake, if you refused to report that is your second mistake. Period.

    Pay attention to Q's second lesson.
  • mirrorterranmirrorterran Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You are the second person to make blanket statements about the posters in this thread, Name a single offense. Just one. If your profanity filter was off that was your first mistake, if you refused to report that is your second mistake. Period.

    Pay attention to Q's second lesson.

    "most of the responses" does not equal a blanket statement.

    And as I have stated previously, the profanity filter and reporting does not fix the problem that this game is plagued with. But, if you wish to ignore previous comments and make blanket comments of your own, feel free.

    This thread continues to exist, I would hope, because people want to discuss the general topic, not because they want to insult each other regardless of their opinion.
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Seriously... Words only have the meaning you put into them...

    If you chose that nut-job is THE single most offensive word someone can say to you, than thats what it will be... Same if you decide that Sir is a swearword to you...

    Get over it, grow up, move on.
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  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    "most of the responses" does not equal a blanket statement.

    And as I have stated previously, the profanity filter and reporting does not fix the problem that this game is plagued with. But, if you wish to ignore previous comments and make blanket comments of your own, feel free.

    This thread continues to exist, I would hope, because people want to discuss the general topic, not because they want to insult each other regardless of their opinion.

    Most is a blanket statement, it assumes anyone. In fact seeing majority response, what the OP received is a gracious response. You probably don't think so because of whatever experience you have is very limited on the internet. To anyone who has spent years on the net will tell you, cursing, sexism, and everything else is wall to wall like the air you breath. STO isn't even remotely close to all of the most famous chart topping multiplayer pvp games.

    I really hope you know that nothing will change when making irresponsible blanket statements and claiming to be helpless victims.

    PS You still ignored any specifics. How convenient. I am getting the impression none of you care about solving anything, you're just satisfied looking down at all the rest of the great unclean and bloviating how civilized you are because you merely brought the issue up.
  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    If a woman is on T.V flaunting her bits about, lap dancing ect (and being well paid for it to boot) its called exploitation.

    If a man is in a coke advert flaunting his bits or stripping at a 'hen party', any that male dares to comment on the unbalanced parallels, they are called misogynistic.

    One rule for all, or no rules at all.

    Fed up of hypocrites.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    Seriously... Words only have the meaning you put into them...
    So if I should decide, say, that "anazonda" is a new slang term meaning "stupid", that's just the meaning I put into it and you shouldn't feel offended at all?

    "Words only have the meanings you assign" is a nonsense argument, else dictionaries would not exist. Or, to quote R. Stevens of Diesel Sweeties, "Words have MEANINGS, people!"
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    So if I should decide, say, that "anazonda" is a new slang term meaning "stupid", that's just the meaning I put into it and you shouldn't feel offended at all?

    "Words only have the meanings you assign" is a nonsense argument, else dictionaries would not exist. Or, to quote R. Stevens of Diesel Sweeties, "Words have MEANINGS, people!"

    It is a bit of a mixture I feel. Words, and the meaning of words change over time. Case in point, TRIBBLE used to mean happy, now it is used as an insult or to describe a homosexual person.

    Language evolves all the time.

    P.S: My grandmother and a few other older people used to used LOL as lots of love. Hence a few unfortunate cases of "your grandfather just died, lol"
  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    So if I should decide, say, that "anazonda" is a new slang term meaning "stupid", that's just the meaning I put into it and you shouldn't feel offended at all?

    "Words only have the meanings you assign" is a nonsense argument, else dictionaries would not exist. Or, to quote R. Stevens of Diesel Sweeties, "Words have MEANINGS, people!"

    No... I would'n.... There are probably people who consider my nick that already... and you know what? I could not care less...

    Once you adapt that notion into your everyday life, you will find that very few people can TRIBBLE you off with words.

    Also, words change their meaning over time... For example, Ketchup used to be a blended fish sauce...
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  • redz4twredz4tw Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    Also, the term broadside is disgusting and degrading. Why can't we just call it womansiding?

    Omg. My IQ just dropped reading that.
  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    redz4tw wrote: »
    Omg. My IQ just dropped reading that.

    Thats unfair I think, the play on words should have raised your IQ.

    Using the nuances of the English language is the stuff of shakespeare

    P.S: Watch the 'two ronnies' and see how they use the nuances of the English language for amazing laughs :)
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    equinox976 wrote: »
    Thats unfair I think, the play on words should have raised you're IQ.

    Your.

    I missed most of these posts, what was the original word?
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  • equinox976equinox976 Member Posts: 2,305 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Your.

    I missed most of these posts, what was the original word?

    Yes I know it is your, as in not you are. I am not thick (I hope), however I am not as discriminating in my prose on the internet as I would be in writing a letter to her Majesty, the Queen.

    Thank you however for your valuable input in correcting my disastrous faux pass, I shall try my utmost to avoid future spelling disasters.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited September 2014
    equinox976 wrote: »
    Yes I know it is your, as in not you are. I am not thick (I hope), however I am not as discriminating in my prose on the internet as I would be in writing a letter to her Majesty, the Queen.

    Thank you however for your valuable input in correcting my disastrous faux pass, I shall try my utmost to avoid future spelling disasters.

    Don't worry about it then.

    Also that post was either dripping with sarcasm or else being written from Surry.
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • originalspockoriginalspock Member Posts: 809 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    equinox976 wrote: »
    Thats unfair I think, the play on words should have raised your IQ.

    Using the nuances of the English language is the stuff of shakespeare

    P.S: Watch the 'two ronnies' and see how they use the nuances of the English language for amazing laughs :)

    I am offended and if you don't agree with me you're a racist homophone.

    2 Ronnie's should be on TV across the planet.
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