Complaining here. Because KDF side is so deads that there's no way for me to level my toon if I don't want to do all the episodes beside Doffing. At level 40 there's no one queued up ever for anything so I'm lucky to get into a Fed Minefield once a day.
My hope is that the Devs will make all Q's cross faction because there's just not enough people that play KDF to make this game a fun multiplayer experience.
Nitpicking is a time-honored tradition of science fiction. Asking your readers not to worry about the "little things" is like asking a dog not to sniff at people's crotches. If there's something that appears to violate natural laws, then you can expect someone's going to point it out. That's just the way things are.
during the last double XP event (plus my vet bonus), I got a toon from start to 50, KDF side, through story content and doffing by Installation 18. I did it in less than a day.
When I hit "Skip tutorial" it went straight to level 8. If your first new ship wasn't tied to story in the KDF, would have been eligible for a new ship before I even left Qo'nos.
Everywhere I look, people are screaming about how bad Cryptic is.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
Complaining here. Because KDF side is so deads that there's no way for me to level my toon if I don't want to do all the episodes beside Doffing. At level 40 there's no one queued up ever for anything so I'm lucky to get into a Fed Minefield once a day.
My hope is that the Devs will make all Q's cross faction because there's just not enough people that play KDF to make this game a fun multiplayer experience.
Just stomach the episodes, aside from that there isn't much that can be done.
The XP event is coming up soon and if you have any plans for additional toons, that will be the time to get it over with.
NO to ARC RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Skip all the episodes you can skip. The xp gains are and have been broken forever, so the missions you get from levels 30-50 are garbage xp payouts.
By going back and playing the early missions you skipped, for the first time, while you're at a much higher level, the xp rewards have scaled and you're still getting 1 level per mission instead of 1 per 3.
Is there no system patrol equivalent on the KDF side?
Nope.
The Pi Canis Stuff isn't equivalent. The Empire Defense stuff isn't equivalent. And that's pretty much that.
Far easier to level a Fed toon, whether Fed or Fed-Rom.
The Mirror XP stuff was a way around that, but they removed it.
Used to be funny, cause you could level a Fed 1-50 faster than you could level a KDF from 20-50. Some of the stuff done with LoR made it easier to level the KDF toons, but it's still nowhere as easy to level as a Fed is.
Fewer ships, harder leveling, and outside of the obvious Star Trek is Starfleet thing...heh, the reason for the KDF population being what it is should have stood out like a sore thumb to Cryptic; and if they wanted to do something about it, they could have.
mixing the queues results in like 250% degradation of team quality. please dont.
kdf requires a bit more social action, organising teams in chat and the like. but its possible to pop queues. you just cant always blind-queue like you can fed-side.
Fewer ships, harder leveling, and outside of the obvious Star Trek is Starfleet thing...heh, the reason for the KDF population being what it is should have stood out like a sore thumb to Cryptic; and if they wanted to do something about it, they could have.
It's going down a similar road to what happened to the old exploration clusters. I.e. No-one plays it because it's not worth the hassle and the devs won't touch it, then the devs don't touch it because no-one plays it and so no-one plays it because the devs don't touch it which results in the devs not touching them, which results in no-one playing them, ad nauseam.
It's going down a similar road to what happened to the old exploration clusters. I.e. No-one plays it because it's not worth the hassle and the devs won't touch it, then the devs don't touch it because no-one plays it and so no-one plays it because the devs don't touch it which results in the devs not touching them, which results in no-one playing them, ad nauseam.
I was surprised with LoR - they put all that effort into trying to get folks to start a KDF toon without putting the effort into giving them ships to fly at endgame, and face it - blink of an eye, folks are at endgame. So folks could see that although they could roll a KDF from level 1, nothing new was going to be there in the end...even folks new to the game would have been able to do a quick look at STOwiki or the like to see...yeah...so oh well, meh.
mixing the queues results in like 250% degradation of team quality. please dont.
kdf requires a bit more social action, organising teams in chat and the like. but its possible to pop queues. you just cant always blind-queue like you can fed-side.
^^THIS!!^^
Just use the channels listed in the >KDF Channels List< and you can usually get a team for everything without that much of a wait. Be social, communicate with others, rely on interaction and teamwork and you'll get stuff done in the KDF. Forget pugs, more often than less.
Just use the channels listed in the >KDF Channels List< and you can usually get a team for everything without that much of a wait. Be social, communicate with others, rely on interaction and teamwork and you'll get stuff done in the KDF. Forget pugs, more often than less.
For what good is all that separated pve content if you can't start it?
Other then kdfdefera I dont find any of these channels enough useful !
The empire defense missions are 100% equatable to the old cluster exploration dailies. Those are a big part of how I leveled up my original toon. You even get a TRIBBLE-ton of dilithium for doing them.
That aside, how can you NOT simply run the storyline missions? Skip the ones you hate, but play any that give you specific pieces of gear. Like, for example, the tractor mines, the Jem'Hadar set pieces, Breen gear, and so forth. Heck, just rushing through storyline missions my new KDF ROM hit lvl 50 at Boldy They Rode, and would have sooner if I'd been trying harder.
There's just about as much stuff to do for KDF as there is for fed.
As to mixing the queues? YES! DO IT! By god, do it!
Being KDf doesn't make you better. It doesn't make you more coordinated. It doesn't make you l33t. The only point you need to coordinate is for PvP matches -- in which case you'd do so for either faction. I think we need to do away with all this fed-vs-kdf nonsense and make it single faction. Eventually we should be able to run fed ships with our KDF, or rom ships on our fed, whatever we like.
I'm sure there's a way Cryptic can monetize the hell out of it, but the end result would be much better IMO. Leave the factions for immersion, for character design and personal choice. Just don't have them segregated when it comes to playing on teams, etc.
I had no problem leveling either my KDF or Rom/KDF alt's; in fact, I got them up to speed faster than my Fed, because with the latter, I was building my first ever STO character. Once you get to DOffing, it's a breeze; I never even joined in PvE outside my fleet until well past level 50. It also helps to open a few lockboxes for those CXP bonuses, too.
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TOS was about a cold war. TNG was rebuilding. KDF Feds, etc. DS9 was about teamwork and inclusion. Joint fleets, working together. Klingon ships fighting and relaxing alongside their fed counterparts. VOY... well.. VOY sucked so let's not really include it much. Doesn't really apply to the KDF/fed relationship dynamic.
The only reason Cryptic made this fake KDF war was to segregate factions. They made it up. If you can't stomach any of that, just tell yourself this game isn't about Trek anymore. It hasn't for a long time. Look at it from a gamer standpoint. We're losing more and more customization when it comes to ships. No longer can we pick and choose ship components. No longer can we truly feel a ship is our own, that we're unique. Now it's spam-tons-of-ships-at-the-players (note there are almost as many cross-faction ships as there are FED ships! Most of these are recent additions and indicative of a possible future trend). One way to make me feel even slightly empowered is to allow me to start customizing my ships again (not going to happen -- cryptic doesn't want to take the time and admit it), or to let me choose any ship I want.
The entire false pretense segregating the factions is gone. Cryptic wrote it in, and now has written it out. Let's move back to the logical path it should have taken, and just allow cross-faction choices. Make fleets cross-faction also. Hell, they're OUR fleets. Let us choose who gets in.
And again, if you can't stomach that simply repeat to yourself: This game has nothing to do with trek anymore. Look at it from a purely gaming standpoint.
Skip all the episodes you can skip. The xp gains are and have been broken forever, so the missions you get from levels 30-50 are garbage xp payouts.
By going back and playing the early missions you skipped, for the first time, while you're at a much higher level, the xp rewards have scaled and you're still getting 1 level per mission instead of 1 per 3.
And yah, DoFF/fleet alerts are good.
For a romulan toon what is the purpose of doing all that stuff you just mentioned? or were you talking about a straight fed or kdf? The xp may be 'garbage' at 30-50, but i just leveled yet another Rom a week ago and i went from 1-50 doing episodes and i was able to go from one episode right to the next with no pauses for patrols or episode repeats. I dont know if it was 1 mission per 1 level, but the xp was enough to where i met the minimum level required for the next mission so it seems like it didnt matter if i was getting 1 level per 1 mission or 1 level per 3 missions or 1 level per 2 missions. Since i was always able to go right into the next episode mission it didnt matter. I even skipped the one Cardassian mission that rewards the Jem Hadar ship shields since 1) that missions sucks and 2) if i'm going to do it might as well do it once, and for the XI version instead of the X version. So i skipped that mission at 40 something and just did it at level 50. I even started skipping Breen episodes because i was one mission turn in away from level 50 by the time i hit the first Breen mission. So i skipped missions until i got the one that rewarded the Breen Cluster torpedo and that completion got me to 50.
Now the straight Fed and KDF which i've also leveled a ton of and i'm doing two new ones right now? my Fed had to do a patrol mission at i think level 15 or 17 because the missions werent rewarding enough xp. And the KDF? i dont remember exactly but i do know for sure that i will eventually have to do the Pi Canis missions, and the home defense at least 2 times for all missions, maybe even 3 times for all those missions.
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When I hit "Skip tutorial" it went straight to level 8. If your first new ship wasn't tied to story in the KDF, would have been eligible for a new ship before I even left Qo'nos.
What's my position?
That people should know what they're screaming about!
(paraphrased from "The Newsroom)
Just stomach the episodes, aside from that there isn't much that can be done.
The XP event is coming up soon and if you have any plans for additional toons, that will be the time to get it over with.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
By going back and playing the early missions you skipped, for the first time, while you're at a much higher level, the xp rewards have scaled and you're still getting 1 level per mission instead of 1 per 3.
And yah, DoFF/fleet alerts are good.
Nope.
The Pi Canis Stuff isn't equivalent. The Empire Defense stuff isn't equivalent. And that's pretty much that.
Far easier to level a Fed toon, whether Fed or Fed-Rom.
The Mirror XP stuff was a way around that, but they removed it.
Used to be funny, cause you could level a Fed 1-50 faster than you could level a KDF from 20-50. Some of the stuff done with LoR made it easier to level the KDF toons, but it's still nowhere as easy to level as a Fed is.
Fewer ships, harder leveling, and outside of the obvious Star Trek is Starfleet thing...heh, the reason for the KDF population being what it is should have stood out like a sore thumb to Cryptic; and if they wanted to do something about it, they could have.
kdf requires a bit more social action, organising teams in chat and the like. but its possible to pop queues. you just cant always blind-queue like you can fed-side.
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It's going down a similar road to what happened to the old exploration clusters. I.e. No-one plays it because it's not worth the hassle and the devs won't touch it, then the devs don't touch it because no-one plays it and so no-one plays it because the devs don't touch it which results in the devs not touching them, which results in no-one playing them, ad nauseam.
I was surprised with LoR - they put all that effort into trying to get folks to start a KDF toon without putting the effort into giving them ships to fly at endgame, and face it - blink of an eye, folks are at endgame. So folks could see that although they could roll a KDF from level 1, nothing new was going to be there in the end...even folks new to the game would have been able to do a quick look at STOwiki or the like to see...yeah...so oh well, meh.
^^THIS!!^^
Just use the channels listed in the >KDF Channels List< and you can usually get a team for everything without that much of a wait. Be social, communicate with others, rely on interaction and teamwork and you'll get stuff done in the KDF. Forget pugs, more often than less.
For what good is all that separated pve content if you can't start it?
Other then kdfdefera I dont find any of these channels enough useful !
But besides Story content, there still are DOFFing, Fleet Alerts and Borg Red Alerts.
That aside, how can you NOT simply run the storyline missions? Skip the ones you hate, but play any that give you specific pieces of gear. Like, for example, the tractor mines, the Jem'Hadar set pieces, Breen gear, and so forth. Heck, just rushing through storyline missions my new KDF ROM hit lvl 50 at Boldy They Rode, and would have sooner if I'd been trying harder.
There's just about as much stuff to do for KDF as there is for fed.
As to mixing the queues? YES! DO IT! By god, do it!
Being KDf doesn't make you better. It doesn't make you more coordinated. It doesn't make you l33t. The only point you need to coordinate is for PvP matches -- in which case you'd do so for either faction. I think we need to do away with all this fed-vs-kdf nonsense and make it single faction. Eventually we should be able to run fed ships with our KDF, or rom ships on our fed, whatever we like.
I'm sure there's a way Cryptic can monetize the hell out of it, but the end result would be much better IMO. Leave the factions for immersion, for character design and personal choice. Just don't have them segregated when it comes to playing on teams, etc.
Yes, because Star Trek was about Klingon Empire Generals flying a Galaxy Class.
*facepalm*
This. I really fail to see what is so hard about doing this. Also, finishing the story content gets the damn pop-up "mission briefing orders" to stop.
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TOS was about a cold war. TNG was rebuilding. KDF Feds, etc. DS9 was about teamwork and inclusion. Joint fleets, working together. Klingon ships fighting and relaxing alongside their fed counterparts. VOY... well.. VOY sucked so let's not really include it much. Doesn't really apply to the KDF/fed relationship dynamic.
The only reason Cryptic made this fake KDF war was to segregate factions. They made it up. If you can't stomach any of that, just tell yourself this game isn't about Trek anymore. It hasn't for a long time. Look at it from a gamer standpoint. We're losing more and more customization when it comes to ships. No longer can we pick and choose ship components. No longer can we truly feel a ship is our own, that we're unique. Now it's spam-tons-of-ships-at-the-players (note there are almost as many cross-faction ships as there are FED ships! Most of these are recent additions and indicative of a possible future trend). One way to make me feel even slightly empowered is to allow me to start customizing my ships again (not going to happen -- cryptic doesn't want to take the time and admit it), or to let me choose any ship I want.
The entire false pretense segregating the factions is gone. Cryptic wrote it in, and now has written it out. Let's move back to the logical path it should have taken, and just allow cross-faction choices. Make fleets cross-faction also. Hell, they're OUR fleets. Let us choose who gets in.
And again, if you can't stomach that simply repeat to yourself: This game has nothing to do with trek anymore. Look at it from a purely gaming standpoint.
For a romulan toon what is the purpose of doing all that stuff you just mentioned? or were you talking about a straight fed or kdf? The xp may be 'garbage' at 30-50, but i just leveled yet another Rom a week ago and i went from 1-50 doing episodes and i was able to go from one episode right to the next with no pauses for patrols or episode repeats. I dont know if it was 1 mission per 1 level, but the xp was enough to where i met the minimum level required for the next mission so it seems like it didnt matter if i was getting 1 level per 1 mission or 1 level per 3 missions or 1 level per 2 missions. Since i was always able to go right into the next episode mission it didnt matter. I even skipped the one Cardassian mission that rewards the Jem Hadar ship shields since 1) that missions sucks and 2) if i'm going to do it might as well do it once, and for the XI version instead of the X version. So i skipped that mission at 40 something and just did it at level 50. I even started skipping Breen episodes because i was one mission turn in away from level 50 by the time i hit the first Breen mission. So i skipped missions until i got the one that rewarded the Breen Cluster torpedo and that completion got me to 50.
Now the straight Fed and KDF which i've also leveled a ton of and i'm doing two new ones right now? my Fed had to do a patrol mission at i think level 15 or 17 because the missions werent rewarding enough xp. And the KDF? i dont remember exactly but i do know for sure that i will eventually have to do the Pi Canis missions, and the home defense at least 2 times for all missions, maybe even 3 times for all those missions.