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The Son'a

flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
edited August 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
First seen in ST:Insurrection, also mentioned (I think) in an episode of DS9? Might we ever see them in STO? The most logical choice would be a lock box, and this could feature well, but we're headed to the Delta Quadrant soon, so Son'a Lock Box potential is going to be at an all time low. I'd have thought they'd be prominent additions, and that more people would choose to fly a Son'a Battleship compared to say, a Hirogen Hunter? I digress.

I'm wondering though, as to their potential. If the fallout of ST:Insurrection is anything to go by, then the Son'a (at least, some of them) are looking for redemption. With redemption and reunification (of sorts) on the table, would it be an option to see the Son'a as allies of any current factions (Federation or Republic most likely?), likewise, if the Son'a is a vast minor empire, then would it be an option to have their empire allies of the KDF?

Thinking out loud here, cause I'd like to see them in-game. I'm sure the Ellora Boffs would be picked up by a significant number of people if their attires were of a certain appeal too. But yeah, reserve them for a lock box, introduce them to an existing faction, leave them as (eventual) NPC, or leave them out of the game entirely? What say you?
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I'm not opposed to the idea, but I never cared for the Son'a, and didn't think they were all that popular.
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  • moonshadowdarkmoonshadowdark Member Posts: 1,899 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I think the Son'a were reintegrated with their people once more at the end of Insurrection. Remember? They were actually just the children? I don't really know, I was playing Clash of Clans on my phone.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    The Son'a dont have anything to do with the Delta Quadrant (and no, they weren't in DS9).

    Why should be a Son'a Lock Box or any Son'a content in Delta Rising?
    I think you need to reread what it was that I wrote.

    I never said they were in DS9, I said that I thought they were mentioned in DS9. I also never said I wanted (or expected) to see them in Delta Rising, I said that Delta Rising is the reason I'm not expecting to see them.
    moonshadowdark wrote: »
    I think the Son'a were reintegrated with their people once more at the end of Insurrection. Remember? They were actually just the children?
    That's what baffles me somewhat. We know the Baku originally left a planet and then settled on their current one, and that their children left the new homeworld. What wasn't clear (to me at least) is whether those children formed the Son'a, or reintegrated into it. Is it not possible that the Baku were escapees from what would have been the Son'a Empire?
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The Son'a lockbox should have been released a while ago, but...

    Here we are in the Delta Quadrant.

    Kazon Carrier with Kazon Fighters/Raider Frigates, anyone?
  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    (and no, they weren't in DS9).


    They were mentioned there, as they allied with the Dominion and supplied it with Ketracel-White. ;)
  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    During the Dominion War, the Federation suspected that they were manufacturing large quantities of the Dominion narcotic ketracel-white in the Son'a colonies in the outlying areas near Cardassia and the Bajoran wormhole. In the later days of the war, a recently constructed facility indeed existed at their Devos II outpost. Weyoun diverted a number of Dominion warships to that colony, believing that the Federation knew about it. Damar questioned this, as he felt the Son'a should be able to protect it themselves. (Star Trek: Insurrection, DS9: "Penumbra")

    Lock boxes don't necessarily have to correspond with the current storyline. In fact, many of them haven't.
    You're right. The work here is very important.
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  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »
    The Son'a lockbox should have been released a while ago, but...

    Here we are in the Delta Quadrant.

    Kazon Carrier with Kazon Fighters/Raider Frigates, anyone?

    Most likely, how much do you want to be t though that people will whine and complain about the Kazon ships being "too powerful" because "They're hunks of junk?"
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Of course they are.

    Then again, people will complain about everything.

    Naturally we're going to have a Kazon ship, somewhere, somehow...they're one of the most recognizable enemies from Voyager, and I'm banking on it being one of those massive Carriers.
  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Their ships was really cool looking. I would like to have one to fly around in. At the end of the movie they made peace with their parents the Baku. By now I'm sure some of their anti aging practices has been reversed. As the crew of the Enterprise found out and they was only there a short time.
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited August 2014
    I've always thought the Son'a would be perfect for the lockbox format since they only have two ships (and a shuttle). And as pointed out earlier in the thread, lockboxes don't have to fit the current plot. The Xindi one didn't, nor did several others.

    But wasn't there something though where Paramount still had the rights to some of the designs from the pre-2009 films, and Cryptic had to jump through some legal hoops to get the Scimitar and Mogai? I may be remembering incorrectly.
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  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The Son'a fighter looked awesome. The Son'a battleships and Rua'fo's command ship would look good too.
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  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The Sona made Ketracel White for the JemHadar.

    From this if we see any Sona ships it would be in any Cardassian expansion/ faction.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rustiswordz wrote: »
    From this if we see any Sona ships it would be in any Cardassian expansion/ faction.
    Why?

    If/When we get a Cardassian Faction, they're hardly going to be allies of the Dominion, are they? All ties between the Cardassians (at least, the ones we'd be playing) and the Dominion would have ended following the fallout of the war.
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  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well there is the True way alliance beween the Jem hadar and the old guard of Cardassians, and whos to say all of the Sona went back to join the baku. i was under the impression there was a lot more Son a than the film showed. Also the Son's enslaved two races as a servant species. if the Sona did return to the Baku then the servant races, equipped with all the son'as ships and equipment could take over where the Sona left off.

    Their is a load of ways you could write the Sona into the game, either as part of and Cardassian faction or more likely as a spieces encountered by them in any Cardassian story.
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  • wilbor2wilbor2 Member Posts: 1,691 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I liked the look of the sona ships so im all for this but i dont do lockboxs i will buy one of the exchange. Op you are right about sona been mentioned in ds9 i re watched the last 4 seasons n can remember it think it was something to do with supplying weopons to the dominion.
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    wasnt it already on the list that theres a delta quadrant lockbox on its way in? then you may as well wait a few months before retrying your case, the son'a have been mentioned time and again consistently for a few years on the forum. whats a few more months at least.
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  • woodwhitywoodwhity Member Posts: 2,636 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »

    Naturally we're going to have a Kazon ship, somewhere, somehow...they're one of the most recognizable enemies from Voyager, and I'm banking on it being one of those massive Carriers.

    And who wouldnt want to fly a t3 ship? ^^
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    rustiswordz wrote: »
    Well there is the True way alliance beween the Jem hadar and the old guard of Cardassians, and whos to say all of the Sona went back to join the baku. i was under the impression there was a lot more Son a than the film showed. Also the Son's enslaved two races as a servant species. if the Sona did return to the Baku then the servant races, equipped with all the son'as ships and equipment could take over where the Sona left off.

    Their is a load of ways you could write the Sona into the game, either as part of and Cardassian faction or more likely as a spieces encountered by them in any Cardassian story.

    from the way i understand it, over a century again some young wonderers from the baku group wondered off planet, they setup colonies but due to very limited numbers and that these baku or son'a became sterile after long term off world, unable to reproduce they resorted to genetic alterations including full facial skin lifts which was shown on insurrection, the face held up by staples and a full hood with a metal piece on the top of the scalp.

    ahdar of course went insane and employed mercenaries to destroy what he couldnt have and failed to realize how much trouble the USS Enterprise would be.
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  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I watched Insurrection recently (beacsue there wasn't anything better on TV that time) so my memory is still kinda fresh.

    At some point the admiral states that without the thing they planned to do most of the Son'a would die for sure, even while living under the regenarative effects on the planet. Since they failed we can assume that most of them did die a horrible death and some of those who stayed with the Baku and survived probably never left the planet again.

    I guess the Son'a are more or less extinct in 2410.

    And as some other people mentioned, there are probably a lot of licensing barriers that keeps a lockbox with Son'a ships from happning.
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well, if the Son'a as a species has become extinct, then that would be a perfect back story on how the Ferengi got ahold of their ships to boost their war profiteering.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    seriousdave wrote: »
    I watched Insurrection recently (beacsue there wasn't anything better on TV that time) so my memory is still kinda fresh.

    At some point the admiral states that without the thing they planned to do most of the Son'a would die for sure, even while living under the regenarative effects on the planet. Since they failed we can assume that most of them did die a horrible death and some of those who stayed with the Baku and survived probably never left the planet again.

    I guess the Son'a are more or less extinct in 2410.

    And as some other people mentioned, there are probably a lot of licensing barriers that keeps a lockbox with Son'a ships from happning.
    I believe Dougherty's exact words were "some of them don't have that long". That was in response to something Picard said about how it wouldn't take long for them to start regenerating on the planet.

    To me this suggests that only part of the Son'a population was near death at the time.
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  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I will love to see Son'a ships, but as a race, they will not make sense at all, since they are not really Son'a. Their species are the Bak'
  • valenn1valenn1 Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I would buy one!
    Beta, LTA, CE, Multiple preorder Versions, all Addon Packs except AoY, nearly all KDF/Rom and ~50% of all Fedships, over 25 LockboxShips, Endurer of Atari's "Year of Hell", but...
    unfortunately:

    NOT LOYAL ENOUGH!!!
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