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Some discussions mentioned that, with the way things are going, PWE might be pulling the plug on STO. This is not a prediction post one way or another. This is just a reminder from the MMORPG history with Warhammer Online: It was not EA who pulled the plug, it was Games Workshop who decided not to renew the license. No licenseno game. Don't forget CBS as a potential plug puller, if STO does a poor job in its view.
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As long as the game makes money, it's gonna stick... And IF they pull the plug, they wont tell you until the very last possible minute...
There... done.
Why?
What else is keeping the Star Trek name 'going'? Short of the once every 3 year (or so) movies, nothing but STO.
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other then the books
other than the comics
other than the merchandise, be it model, toy, shirt...
CBS has to coast on that for decades to come. They can't risk losing future potential profits because something now leaves a bad taste in fans' mouths.
I'm not saying that will happen. I'm saying it CAN happen. Studio execs are covetous of potential future profit.
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And CBS is already actively involved in doing this with STO, as the have the last rights for approval for anything that goes on in STO. This is the reason why some features in high demand, (e.g. Tier 5 Constitution Class Heavy Cruiser) have not been implemented...
"The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." - James T. Kirk
How about some proof of that....please.
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He also mention they had earned capital to support projects well past 2018.
That was well over a year ago so planning has moved well past 2020.
That gets into trickier territory. Paramount owns the rights to the movies, CBS the TV shows. You note we have the TOS Connie, which was in the shows, but not the TMP 1701-A, which was only in the movies.
I'm sure there's some kind of legal rights issue at play for that one. Many fingers, one pie.
Need you be reminded that Dan Stahl has lied to us before?
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We do actually. Tier 2 cruiser: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Constitution
Star Wars The Old Republic replaced Star Wars Galaxies. In fact that is why Star Wars Galaxy was shut down by Sony.
We the small percenters aren't saying it is going to happen. But that it MIGHT.
I think what ever Cryptic has planned for Season 10 and the 5TH ANN of STO.
Should be carefully look at again. Because of Threads like this and the on going flame rage thread dealing with the removal of the exploration mission from STO and hope what they have planned for Season 10 and the 5TH ANN of STO can pull off another Legacy Of Romulas.
And BTW, why ask for proof, when the op's proof is just a comparison to another MMO, with another license, that was not successful at all. STO is successful.
It will as there will be an update to it later today. I have to grab the quote Brandon posted about it.
I'm also on my phone so kinda hard to look.
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No, Paramount owns the rights to the new movies ("Star Trek", "Into Darkness" and the next one); CBS owns the rights to the TV shows and the first ten movies ("The Motion Picture" through "Nemesis").
There is no one view of what Star Trek should be, and if CBS is happy with the way STO has taken it so far, I doubt they're going to suddenly get their knickers in a twist any time soon.
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DOOM!! the game is over , run hide and sell you kids for corn because the end is here its over the game is DOOOOOMED!
Your lack of faith is disturbing...
No, it was EA who decided it wasn't worth renewing the license on WAR. (If you read between the lines with the comments leading up to the non-renewal, it was clear the only reason EA didn't shut the game down earlier was because by the terms of the existing agreement it would have cost them more money to do that as oppossed to just keeping the servers up until the license agreement expired.) The shutdown announcement was worded the way it was so that GDW didn't look as bad in case they wanted to try and shop the IP around to other developers.
As for 'pulling the plug' on STO - please, were that the case, PWE wouldn't have kept the STO Dev team the size it is, provided enough funding to get former Star Trek actors to do VO work; promote and send a group of Devs to the STLV 2014 convention or greenlight a second major free STO expansion (which we'll see released before the end of 2014 by all indications.)
Hell, if you want to take a look at what PWE does when it actually abandons a Cryptic made MMO; go take a look at the 'Champions Online' forums, and look at the type of content updates it gets (when the game actually gets one - which it honestly hasn't for over a year); and contrast that with STO.
Season 9.5 is a WHOLLY TERRIBLE and lacklustre update with regard to the Doff system UI - but it's still a major (if misguided) update by comparison to the type of updates CO has received of late.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Honestly, this could happen even in one year from now. The way STO is headed, i will not susprised if the next expansion is the last one. Just saying. I already know a few cases of really loyal to STO people that finally reached a limit and they not going to keep paying for playing this game. Not a dime. So, in 1 year from now, make the maths. Maybe the game will not close the servers, but cryptic will not be willing to keep releasing stuff. And since thats the only thing they do, my guess is the servers will close. Its just the logical path of a game that is getting worst season after season.
Now this is just an opinion about the logical path the game will get if things doesnt change (and i dont think they will lol). PWE sure they will try to keep pushing cryptic to keep banging customers for $, but if the player base is not enough, or people are really tired and none of em buy 1 single zen, bye bye STO.
So, yes, it could happen, and its probably it will. Maybe the next year, maybe in a couple of years. But im pretty sure, that this game, if things doesnt change, will be dead in 3 years. Of course i hope im wrong, that will mean the game actually improved instead the opposite, and that will be , honestly, a surprise, but also really great news. Unfortunately that will be too late for a lot of people xD.
CBS can pull it whenever they feel like it. CBS has a lot of other sources of revenue and this game is only a speck in that whole thing. sto isnt needed or required, but PWE make sure that enough is done to keep it on their end so that it keeps CBS happy enough to not shut it down.
that depends, if PWE slip more and more and with the recent communication snafu that could be the start of that over 9.5 and any more content that may go bad in the meantime.. and at some point someone in CBS could look at the trek title being used and not see a game, but just one giant money sink instead regardless what anyone else saying its a game. the overriding purpose is to get as much money as possible and f2p is just a gimmick to hide behind and that infact eventually the trek name is just a title for greed and not the adventure that is star trek.. dont mistake your certainty for sure.
stahl said a lot of things and i dont believe a word of any of it with things he said he could get in game, none of it ever came. him and his crazy ideas.
i want to hear it from d'angelo himself what is going to happen because he runs it now, and what stahl may have seen and what d'angelo may see are two different things entirely.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
content quality drop, lack of interest from the community, lots of negative reviews and opinions, game direction is not heading in a direction that suits the ip nature. drop in the amount of players from the server.
anything could set it off then just a poor job.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Not much... Just
Comic Books
Novels
Calendars
Star Trek Ornaments
Toys "figures, Lego like blocks"
Models
A TRIBBLE load of Merchandise "Not toys" See StarTrek.com
DVD/Blu Ray, digital copy Streaming like Netflix of 11 Movies and 30 Seasons of TV if you count the cartoon of trek/
Star Trek games as in board games, role play, and video games. I even have the scene it version and I think they have a Monopoly one.
But beyond that I don't see how they make I with so little;)
Even a small amount of $ is something.
Think of SW... Lucas didn't pull the plug until he had something else ready. In fact he pushed the something else to go early cause going with out anything wasn't an option.
So unless you hear a really good rumor of X or Y company developing a new title this one isn't likely to go anywhere, at least from CBSs end.