This is my tac build
BUILD:
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=tacinscioddy_7030
Objective: Balance between DPS and tanking for PvE
Cost: As high as you want to go (hypothetical future build)
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This is my Engineer build
Build:
http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/index.php?build=futurefedengineer_7030
Objective: To tank primarily and do sufficient DPS for both PvE and PvP.
Cost: As high as you want to go (hypothetical future build)
ALSO, the guy ahead of Sto academy (site used for these builds) is running a fundraiser. Feel free to donate!
THANKS!
Comments
Here:
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=futurefedengineerfixed_0
From my perspective, if you alter the Gawain build, then you will lose DPS ... but gain something else. Like aesthetic pleasure, or something like that.
Why? Anyway as Edalgo said you can swap those out for something like Borg engine/deflector, which I would honestly suggest to start out with anyway if you aren't already a master of everything else in the build.
I should have been more clear, my apologies. Why are you so anti-fleet when it comes to deflectors and engines?
False. Upgrading beta in place of omega, or just 2x beta, will increase dps. Using Nukara 2 piece gives 2.5% dmg, which isn't insignificant, as it's final, not base. Dropping protonic 2 piece for regular beam array (soon replaced with 360 plasma beam) and nukara console also improves dps. Large than 180 arc means you don't have to face backward to fire the beam. Acc overflow not working in faw will be fixed in upcoming season. Even before that, faw has at most 50% uptime. During the other 50%, acc overflow will contribute crit to the effect of 0.09% chance and 0.9% severity per point. Borg spheres in stfs do go evasive, where you can miss. Same goes for starbase defense and many other fleet actions. The idea that you never miss in pve is not true. It's good effort for playing into tac odyssey's low amount of tac consoles, but in the end still doesn't quite pan out.
The cookie cutter a2b fit, compared to this, is far easier to fly, tanks better, and isn't much lower on dps. The reason is, you get to double up on dem, as well as 2x eptw III, as opposed to 1x eptw I and 1x eptw III. This makes up part of the dps lost from nukara trait.
But anyway, anyone who's this much into minmaxing dps wouldn't fly a science oddy to begin with. :rolleyes:
Then why did the top DPSers all use Omega/Beta combo to get their highest scores?
I believe the point was for the creator to challenge himself to make a good build out of the sci oddy that isn't a tank/healer.
Turn rate and speed boost.
In terms of straight dps
Beta3>omega3
Beta2>omega1
But when you factor in the additional mobility granted by omega, it makes the cut. You still use a copy of ap beta to keep an ap rolling though
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
I still would go with EptS1+3DCEs though, makes it more sturdy^^
There is so much power floating around currently, Nukara T4 is not to be underestimated. Also A2B on a Ody is really a... gimping idea.
As for Equip, especially on a tac I would beg to differ and see Romegine+UNdine-Deflector as superior, on other chars it might be the other way around.
On APB vs. APO i am on your side, since zemok is pricy for marginal performance boost if any.
Because they utilized certain tricks and exploits that aren't as relevant in the real game, to put mildly. Recluse pet debuff stacking is one. You stack so many beta IIIs that the direct self dmg buff from omega translates into more dps. This exploit has since been nerfed and can no longer be replicated. Another is using gdf (or go down fighting). Before run, you set yourself (and other team members) down to 1% hull, degrade skills, crew, and other conditions to minimize passive hull heals, and activate gdf for massive damage spike. You finish the stf run before gdf expires, and pretend this one gaint spike is dps. If anyone dies, you start over until the desired short parse log is attained. This leads into your omega/beta combo. Omega is great for mobility in the real game, but they're only interested in dps, and here's how they do it: Omega is used in sync with pet beta stacking. Afterwards, beta from everyone is used as replacement after pet beta stack wears off, since omega without stacked betas don't do much dps. The long cd from omega compared to beta is not considered an issue, since you finish the short run before gdf expires. There are many other exploits they use to produce logs that aren't practical in the real game, but let's end the wall of text here.;)
Btw, they didn't come up with these themselves. Most of these came from the vaunted 100k Kumari of old mirror event in the olden days, which used every trick in the book, and was the butt of many running jokes back then. They recycled them. For some reason it's no longer considered joke nowadays, I'm not sure why.:P
Anyway, an oddy that's not a tank or healer would be a cookie cutter a2b oddy. High performance all around. Deals not quite, but nearly highest potential dps, while easy to fly and easy to tank. You get free high shield power - more resists, shrug off damage. You get free high engine power - goes faster, turns better. Mash that space bar like it's the EASY button. What's not to like?:D
Nukara trait isn't anywhere close to 21% damage. It's a drop in a bucket - something minmaxers add on top after they've already exhausted every other source of dps. Also, the 16.6% dmg from eptw is base, not final, so it's also very little. To take advantage of 4th amp, you'll have to set aux lower than max, compromising nukara rep dps. The only alternative is lower weapon powers, which is even worse. You end up with poor power levels all around, as opposed to easy max powers in weapon, shield, and engine subs.
Still waiting for you to post a better build and include a parse with it.
There is no way an a2b oddy could outperform my zemok build.
Running at 125 Aux power:
+6.25% Acc
+6.25% All Damage
+6.25% Hull Cap
+6.25% Shield Cap
+25 Bonus All Damage Resists
Gawain is about as high as you can take DPS in a sci oddy, and it has a very significant tank.
That's nice but I dont wanna fly Gwain's ship, I wanna fly mine. There's no originality in copying somebody else's build. Plus I just don't feel like grinding for all of that equipment.
The point was that you take what you like from the build and make it your own. no said anything about copying the build exactly.
Even if you did decide to copy it exactly you still wouldn't be able to match my performance with that ship.
If you ask for advice, and get defensive when you people offer it to you; then you are just looking for a pat on the back.
Well, first off, I'm only defensive because 2 pages of MY thread was a debate on someone else's build. When, originally, it was MY build. I wish to tweak my build and just want some pointers on how to change it. It's not a matter of me "looking for a pat on the back". To be honest, I rather have had 2 pages of people criticizing my build instead of debating someone else's. I don't want people to shove someone else's build down my throat and say "take what you like"... excuse me, but, no. Also, where's the help in, basically saying, you will never be as good as me? Seriously dude, if you wanted to show off, make your own damn thread. If there is anyone here who wants to help me on tweaking MY build. Feel free to comment thanks