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mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
So, after reading the latest dev blog, AND getting some clarification from AdjudicatorHawk in this thread, here's what I can gather about Aegis 2.0:

1. The old set (if you have it) will be automatically upgraded to the Mk XII new set, once 9.5 goes live.
2. The new set can potentially be crafted to Ultra-Rare level.
3. Those that have crafted the old set will get a AEGIS Doff for free, once 9.5 goes live.

Looks like that Aegis will be the set that people can grind for, if they don't want to grind for fleet gear. I guess the new sets will still be available to trade BEFORE equipping, too (the screenshots in the Dev Blog were just from AdjudicatorHawk's own account).

Has the set hit Tribble yet? Did I get any of these facts wrong

(EDITED to add clarification & new info!)
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    So, after reading the latest dev blog, here's what I can gather about Aegis 2.0:

    1. The new set is no longer auto-leveling.
    2. The new set can be crafted to Ultra-Rare level.
    3. The new set binds to character, so I guess that means no trading/exchange.

    Aside from the stats themselves, some interesting trade-offs. Looks like that Aegis will be the set that people can grind for, if they don't want to grind for fleet gear. Sad to see that it won't auto-level anymore, especially if there is ever a cap increase. I just hope they offer an upgrade option to current Aegis owners... make it the same crafting level requirements, but require less materials.

    Has the set hit Tribble yet? Did I get any of these facts wrong?

    Good luck on that. They didn't offer upgrade options for old Mk X/XI reputation equipment with the move to all Mk XII reputation gear for S9.
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  • generalmocogeneralmoco Member Posts: 1,634
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    So, after reading the latest dev blog, here's what I can gather about Aegis 2.0:

    1. The new set is no longer auto-leveling.
    2. The new set can be crafted to Ultra-Rare level.
    3. The new set binds to character, so I guess that means no trading/exchange.

    Aside from the stats themselves, some interesting trade-offs. Looks like that Aegis will be the set that people can grind for, if they don't want to grind for fleet gear. Sad to see that it won't auto-level anymore, especially if there is ever a cap increase. I just hope they offer an upgrade option to current Aegis owners... make it the same crafting level requirements, but require less materials.

    Has the set hit Tribble yet? Did I get any of these facts wrong?

    You can craft it on Tribble, but you'll need to level several schools to level 15 to get access...
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So they made Aegis Bind on Acquire. That's funny and it defeats one of the main points of crafting.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    Good luck on that. They didn't offer upgrade options for old Mk X/XI reputation equipment with the move to all Mk XII reputation gear for S9.

    Hmm... I didn't start reputation stuff until after S9, so forgive me for not knowing how it worked previously...

    But, how did you get Mk XII gear in the old system? Didn't you still have to grind for it? Your Mk X/Mk XI stuff didn't just magically upgrade to Mk XII, did it?

    I think the question is valid for Aegis, IMHO, because current Aegis *is* "Mk XII" since it's auto-leveled (if you are at level 50, mind you). Plus, Al Rivera did hint at the new crafting system being used to upgrade old gear...

    You still could be right, ultimately... I guess we shall see!
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  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2014
    On TRIBBLE currently the old Aegis set auto-updates to the new version. It was also Bind on Equip on TRIBBLE as well so if something changed it's not on TRIBBLE.
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    You can craft it on Tribble, but you'll need to level several schools to level 15 to get access...

    Gotcha. Just wondered if anyone has gotten it, or is anywhere close to getting it...
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  • tucana66tucana66 Member Posts: 710 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So they made Aegis Bind on Acquire. That's funny and it defeats one of the main points of crafting.
    Agreed.

    Kind of ironic: Since before the S9.5 crafting announcements, I started crafting an Aegis set for each of my toons, There may be better ship sets out there, but I do like the Aegis.

    Sure, I could buy the Aegis from the Exchange. There are plenty of Aegis deflectors, engines and shields available for a few mil EC each. Now, I wonder if those items will spike in price, once this thread is better-known amongst the sellers. Suddenly they're going to be very, very rare items (moreso for those players who don't want to craft).
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So they made Aegis Bind on Acquire. That's funny and it defeats one of the main points of crafting.
    By doing this, they're forcing people (everyone) to grind (whey) in order to obtain it. All crafted items should be free to trade and sell, but they wont be because the decision makers here have decided to do otherwise.

    :(
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Meh. I'm okay with the Aegis not being tradable. Everything else ... set them free!
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    On TRIBBLE currently the old Aegis set auto-updates to the new version. It was also Bind on Equip on TRIBBLE as well so if something changed it's not on TRIBBLE.

    Now THAT is interesting... would love some clarification from the devs. Guess we'll find out soon enough!
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    Hmm... I didn't start reputation stuff until after S9, so forgive me for not knowing how it worked previously...

    But, how did you get Mk XII gear in the old system? Didn't you still have to grind for it? Your Mk X/Mk XI stuff didn't just magically upgrade to Mk XII, did it?

    I think the question is valid for Aegis, IMHO, because current Aegis *is* "Mk XII" since it's auto-leveled (if you are at level 50, mind you). Plus, Al Rivera did hint at the new crafting system being used to upgrade old gear...

    You still could be right, ultimately... I guess we shall see!

    Sorry to spill the beans but, auto leveling equipment stops at MK X. So a Lvl 50 has an ageis set of MK X and no higher. Same is for ALL auto leveling equipment. Many threads, for years now, have asked for it to be increased. I would love to continue using my auto leveling Bajoran Phasers, but MK XII is much better equipment at endgame than they are.
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    Sorry to spill the beans but, auto leveling equipment stops at MK X.

    No bean-spilling here, I didn't even know that! Thanks! :)
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    On TRIBBLE currently the old Aegis set auto-updates to the new version. It was also Bind on Equip on TRIBBLE as well so if something changed it's not on TRIBBLE.
    and what are set bonuses for it?
  • eldarion79eldarion79 Member Posts: 1,679 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So they made Aegis Bind on Acquire. That's funny and it defeats one of the main points of crafting.

    That was the exact same argument the playerbase had when Crafting 1.5 came out, in which crafting pretty much became useless unless you are an individual with a mass amount of data samples and a completionist. So now, they pretty much made it a time gate. At least we don't have to pay dilithium to buy a specific level "license". Ok, I take that back, devs don't read this, its about a recipe to make muffins.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    1. The new set is no longer auto-leveling.

    The Aegis set was never auto-leveling. It was always set to Mk X.
    So they made Aegis Bind on Acquire. That's funny and it defeats one of the main points of crafting.

    There is absolutely no proof of that. Reputation items are Character Bind on Pickup not Bound to Character so the Aegis equipment would have to say Character Bind on Pickup not Bound to Character. Also, even if it is Bind on Pickup now doesn't mean it will be Bind on Pickup when the Season 9.5 goes live.
  • adjudicatorhawkadjudicatorhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    mhall85 wrote: »
    So, after reading the latest dev blog, here's what I can gather about Aegis 2.0:

    1. The new set is no longer auto-leveling.
    2. The new set can be crafted to Ultra-Rare level.
    3. The new set binds to character, so I guess that means no trading/exchange.

    Aside from the stats themselves, some interesting trade-offs. Looks like that Aegis will be the set that people can grind for, if they don't want to grind for fleet gear. Sad to see that it won't auto-level anymore, especially if there is ever a cap increase. I just hope they offer an upgrade option to current Aegis owners... make it the same crafting level requirements, but require less materials.

    Has the set hit Tribble yet? Did I get any of these facts wrong?

    The set is Bind to Account on Equip - the screenshots I provided for the blog were just on gear I had already equipped, and thus it was bound to me. The whole draw of R+D is making gear for other people as well as yourself, and that includes the endgame gear available in the system.

    The old set is upgraded to the new stats.

    Players who were able to craft AEGIS in the old system will receive the Duty Officer that allows AEGIS crafting for free when the new system launches, as well as a title for progressing that far in the previous system.

    Players who gained any XP at all in the old system will receive the "Dabbler" title as a reward when the new system launches.
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  • adjudicatorhawkadjudicatorhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Sorry to spill the beans but, auto leveling equipment stops at MK X. So a Lvl 50 has an ageis set of MK X and no higher. Same is for ALL auto leveling equipment. Many threads, for years now, have asked for it to be increased. I would love to continue using my auto leveling Bajoran Phasers, but MK XII is much better equipment at endgame than they are.

    This is true - your current Aegis set will actually receive a substantial stats increase when it gets boosted to Mk XII after 9.5 goes live.
    Jeff "Adjudicator Hawk" Hamilton
    Systems Designer - Cryptic Studios
    Twitter: @JeffAHamilton
  • adjudicatorhawkadjudicatorhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    binebane wrote: »
    and what are set bonuses for it?

    2pc: Energy Negation: Every 30 seconds, gain a buff that completely negates the next incoming hit.
    3pc: Energy Feedback Conductor: Long recharge click power. Gives +100 Res All Energy, Reduces Shield damage taken by 30%. 10 sec duration. For each second while this buff is active that you take Energy Damage, gain +2% bonus energy damage for 10 seconds. Duration of buff refreshes with each hit.

    This is all subject to tuning and changing, they're both a little more complex than I think is ideal but they're useful and thematic.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The set is Bind to Account on Equip - the screenshots I provided for the blog were just on gear I had already equipped, and thus it was bound to me. The whole draw of R+D is making gear for other people as well as yourself, and that includes the endgame gear available in the system.

    The old set is upgraded to the new stats.

    Players who were able to craft AEGIS in the old system will receive the Duty Officer that allows AEGIS crafting for free when the new system launches, as well as a title for progressing that far in the previous system.

    Players who gained any XP at all in the old system will receive the "Dabbler" title as a reward when the new system launches.

    Thanks for clearing this up. You guys got your work cut out for you in ensuring the right info is out.
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    This is true - your current Aegis set will actually receive a substantial stats increase when it gets boosted to Mk XII after 9.5 goes live.

    And will these current Aegis sets that are getting upgraded also become account bound?
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  • adjudicatorhawkadjudicatorhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    drogyn1701 wrote: »
    And will these current Aegis sets that are getting upgraded also become account bound?

    No, see my first post. The Aegis set is still BoE (and in fact is probably now Bind to Account on Equip - I'll have to double check, but that's the general rule for crafted stuff.)
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So what exactly is the 'dabbler' title ? All my toons put in tons of materials to be able to craft anything possible, and with the revamp all we get is this nifty title and have to start 'school' all over again ?
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  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited July 2014
    No, see my first post. The Aegis set is still BoE (and in fact is probably now Bind to Account on Equip - I'll have to double check, but that's the general rule for crafted stuff.)

    That's what I'm asking. I have the set now, but since it was only MkX previously, I upgraded to a reputation set. I'm assuming (haven't looked at it in a while) that as it stands now the set is bound to that character, since it has been worn by him.

    I'm asking will that existing bound to character set become bound to my account instead so I could then give it to another of my characters?

    Or is it bound to account now?
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,458 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    Players who were able to craft AEGIS in the old system will receive the Duty Officer that allows AEGIS crafting for free when the new system launches, as well as a title for progressing that far in the previous system.

    Players who gained any XP at all in the old system will receive the "Dabbler" title as a reward when the new system launches.

    Any possibility that Players who did craft AEGIS in the old system could get a Level 15 unlock in those 3 Schools in the new system? :D

    (I know it's not likely, but can't hurt to ask. :P )
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  • adjudicatorhawkadjudicatorhawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Any possibility that Players who did craft AEGIS in the old system could get a Level 15 unlock in those 3 Schools in the new system? :D

    (I know it's not likely, but can't hurt to ask. :P )

    Exactly 0 chance. Sorry. We're not updating the old system so much as taking out a storefront that had an XP bar and replacing it with a whole new crafting system.
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Any possibility that Players who did craft AEGIS in the old system could get a Level 15 unlock in those 3 Schools in the new system? :D

    (I know it's not likely, but can't hurt to ask. :P )

    ^ ^ ^

    THIS

    It's only fair that in the old system if you could craft any craftable item in the list the toon's ability should be transferred to the new system.
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  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,458 Community Moderator
    edited July 2014
    Exactly 0 chance. Sorry. We're not updating the old system so much as taking out a storefront that had an XP bar and replacing it with a whole new crafting system.

    Fair enough. Thanks for allowing previously crafted AEGIS to get the automatic upgrade. :)
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    The set is Bind to Account on Equip - the screenshots I provided for the blog were just on gear I had already equipped, and thus it was bound to me. The whole draw of R+D is making gear for other people as well as yourself, and that includes the endgame gear available in the system.

    The old set is upgraded to the new stats.

    Players who were able to craft AEGIS in the old system will receive the Duty Officer that allows AEGIS crafting for free when the new system launches, as well as a title for progressing that far in the previous system.

    Players who gained any XP at all in the old system will receive the "Dabbler" title as a reward when the new system launches.

    Okay, thanks for all the clarification, AdjudicatorHawk!!!
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    The Aegis set was never auto-leveling. It was always set to Mk X.

    Oh... oops. :P

    Not much of a loss, though, since someone else pointed out that auto-leveling stuff kinda stops at Mk X, anyway. Thanks!
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  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited July 2014
    Thanks for allowing previously crafted AEGIS to get the automatic upgrade. :)

    I second this. :)
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