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Risian Birds - 2014 Guide

denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2014 in The Academy
Last year, I put together a post describing how to acquire and raise Risian Birds. I also compiled information from the community on what different stages, mutations, and breeds looked like. While the old post had lots of helpful information, differences in the Summer Event would make it quite confusing. So I am starting again, building on the same data but accounting for new information from 2014.



How to raise your Risian tropical bird
To start off, you're going to need a Risian Tropical Bird Egg. You can get these randomly from Horga'hns in the Horga'hn hunt that goes on at about 23 minutes after each hour. You can also buy eggs for 150 favors, which averages out to three hunts' worth of rewards.
Hatching your egg
Hatching the egg is simple. Talk to the Ornithologist (on the second floor of the Shopping Promenade) and accept the assignment to hatch your egg. It takes two scientists and has no critical success option. It will take 24 hours and give you a random bird chick.
Raising your chick
Talk to the Ornithologist again, and pick the breed of bird you have. Then, select the assignment to raise your fledgling. As your bird grows, you will be able to select the appropriate assignment for each age bracket. This takes 24 hours, and scientists with peaceful or seductive traits will increase your chance to mutate your bird into a tufted variant. Biologists will lower your critical chance, but purple scientists of other disciplines are rather good at increasing critical chance.

This year, you can purchase blue Risian Geologists with both crit traits from the vendor on the far end of the Promenade for 200 favors. If you have the 'Master Relaxer' accolade (complete a bunch of accolades across the island), you can get a purple geologist with both crit traits for 1000 favors. These can be very helpful, but you'll have to decide if they're worth the favors (Thanks, admrenlarreck!)
Raising your tufted bird
If you're lucky enough to have your bird 'mutate' on a critical success, you will receive a tufted version of your breed. These have their own raising assignments, but these operate pretty much the same as normal ones, just without a mutation chance.


Bird type information
On the surface, tufted/normal birds seem the same as the ornamented/normal winter epohhs. Birds of each breed increase in size as they go from chick/hatchling to fledgling to adult to senior. They also get slightly more vivid colors and long tufts of feathers on a critical success. There are, however, a few anomalies, especially in the unique coloration of Tufted Adults, which is lost when they are raised to Tufted Seniors. Here is a picture in the dev blogs that includes some of the variants.
Note: I will order the colors when written as in this 'diagram':

________((((
________<=< ____________primary/stripe/feathers
________((((

Seaspray
Normal - red/gold/blue (first row, first column here)
Tufted - red/yellow/blue with tufts
Adult Tufted - green/yellow/blue with tufts (third row, first column here)


Dusk Diver
Normal - navy/pale yellow/blue (second row, first column here)
Tufted - navy/yellow/blue with tufts
Adult Tufted - blue/light blue/maroon with tufts (fourth row, first column here)

Grotto Glider
Normal - olive/red/gold (first row, second column here)
Tufted - olive/red/gold with tufts
Adult Tufted - green/red/yellow with tufts (third row, second column here)

Passion Wing
Normal - pink/gold/purple (first row, third column here)
Tufted -pink/yellow/purple with tufts
Adult Tufted - hot pink/red/indigo with tufts (third row, third column here)


Firespray
Normal -dark maroon/white/maroon (second row, third column here)
Tufted - dark maroon/yellow/magenta with tufts
Adult Tufted - red/orange/yellow with tufts (fourth row, third column here)

Sunset Streamer
Normal -magenta/pale yellow/orange (second row, second column here)
Tufted - magenta/yellow/orange with tufts
Adult Tufted - maroon/white/green with tufts (fourth row, second column here)

Bird of Paradise
This bird, seen at the bottom of this picture, is not attainable by players. It exists only at the Vista points associated with the 'The Big Year' accolade. Interacting with all of the Birds of Paradise will grant you this accolade and the title 'Ornithologist'.

Anomalies
Last year we noticed a few bugs in some of the bird forms. Untufted Passion Wing adults looked like Seasprays, and untufted Passion Wing fledglings looked like tufted Passion Wing fledglings. I will update if these are confirmed as either fixed or still existing this year.


If you notice anything about the Birds that is different from what I have here, or something that is no longer accurate as of 2014, please speak up! And thanks to all those who posted in last year's thread on bird color variation.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    *two thumbs up* Good job. I think I remember your old thread.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • captainjgeecaptainjgee Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Great post. It's a shame that the Dev posts aren't as good as yours. :)
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Great post. It's a shame that the Dev posts aren't as good as yours. :)


    Two thumbs up for this guy. and I agree to the quote as well.

    you might want to add in that You can get blue and purple geologists that have both the Seductive and Peaceful traits for Favors on Risa.

    Blue is 200 favors

    Purple is 1000 favors and you have to have the Master Relaxer accolade complete
    fayhers_starfleet.jpg


    Fleet leader Nova Elite

    Fleet Leader House of Nova elite
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  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Two thumbs up for this guy. and I agree to the quote as well.

    you might want to add in that You can get blue and purple geologists that have both the Seductive and Peaceful traits for Favors on Risa.

    Blue is 200 favors

    Purple is 1000 favors and you have to have the Master Relaxer accolade complete


    Thanks! I'll update the post with that information.
    Take a look at my Foundry missions!

    Conjoined
    , Re-emergence, and . . .

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You dont need to waste 1000 favors on a purple doff... there is no need and it is too expensive. Too much.

    If you have already a purple science doff, just use it. I get about 25% critical chance just using a purple warp theorist and a purple astrometric scientist but WITHOUT critical traits. And still i get the same (more or less) critical chance.
  • jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I'm getting "400 Bad Request" messages on all the links I clicked on.

    Getting the Risian Purple Doffs would be nice since I would eventually like all my Doffs to be Purple quality.

    However, I can't really justify using 1,000 favors to get each one. As of last night I have been selling favors for 12,500 ECs each that means each of these Doffs costs the equivalent of 12.5 million ECs. Additionally, mutated birds are not worth any more than normal birds. All birds of a particular age group gives the same number of marks regardless if they are normal, mutated, or breed.

    I started playing STO in Jan 2014 so I will assume that the value of favors will continue to drop on the Exchange over time. Perhaps when they drop to 4,000 ECs each (or less) I would consider using favors to buy a purple Doff, but that's still 4 million ECs. I need to review the various Doff missions to see if those traits are very useful for the missions I prefer to focus on.
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You dont need to waste 1000 favors on a purple doff... there is no need and it is too expensive. Too much.

    If you have already a purple science doff, just use it. I get about 25% critical chance just using a purple warp theorist and a purple astrometric scientist but WITHOUT critical traits. And still i get the same (more or less) critical chance.

    Two purple non-Biologist Science doffs without either critical trait gives 20% chance. For everyone that doesn't know, you don't use Biologists on these assignments because there is effectively no failure or disaster chance, so using something that increases success will cost you critical chance, since that increase in success rate can only come from the critical rate.
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    However, I can't really justify using 1,000 favors to get each one. As of last night I have been selling favors for 12,500 ECs each that means each of these Doffs costs the equivalent of 12.5 million ECs. Additionally, mutated birds are not worth any more than normal birds. All birds of a particular age group gives the same number of marks regardless if they are normal, mutated, or breed.

    This isn't true. A Tufted bird will trade in for the same amount of marks as one level of development higher of a regular bird. For example, a Tufted Adult bird will trade in for 60 marks, the same amount as a Normal Senior, and a Tufted Senior will trade in for 100 marks.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    I'm getting "400 Bad Request" messages on all the links I clicked on.


    I'm pretty sure this is a glitch that pops up every now and then for Cryptic's website. I've had pics not be viewable on devblogs before, the best I can suggest is to try a different browser. There's probably a better workaround, though. I'll see if there's a version of that picture hosted elsewhere, too. All my links go to the same picture, btw.
    Take a look at my Foundry missions!

    Conjoined
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited June 2014
  • denizenvidenizenvi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014

    Thanks! I'll update the links. Hopefully this will be friendlier on various browsers.
    Take a look at my Foundry missions!

    Conjoined
    , Re-emergence, and . . .

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    your welcome. Also I bought a couple of the blue doffs, they are Unique so you can only get each one once.
    fayhers_starfleet.jpg


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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,249 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Outstanding post/guide. Thanks Denizenvi!
    Great post. It's a shame that the Dev posts aren't as good as yours. :)
    Agreed 100%

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • policestate76policestate76 Member Posts: 1,424 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    anodynes wrote: »
    Two purple non-Biologist Science doffs without either critical trait gives 20% chance. For everyone that doesn't know, you don't use Biologists on these assignments because there is effectively no failure or disaster chance, so using something that increases success will cost you critical chance, since that increase in success rate can only come from the critical rate.



    This isn't true. A Tufted bird will trade in for the same amount of marks as one level of development higher of a regular bird. For example, a Tufted Adult bird will trade in for 60 marks, the same amount as a Normal Senior, and a Tufted Senior will trade in for 100 marks.

    Wtf.. only 60 marks?? only 100 marks??? ow, im happy i am not planning to sell my fancy birds.. lol. I was not interested in marks, but now that i know that you only get that ammount, even less lol.
  • rangervegasrangervegas Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Anyone know which one of the birds gives you the +0.05 Inertia buff? And if there are others to get? I know there is at least one with that inertia buff, one of my fleetmates linked it when he got lucky and got it in the first couple of days of raising a bird, but I can't remember which bird it was.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Anyone know which one of the birds gives you the +0.05 Inertia buff? And if there are others to get? I know there is at least one with that inertia buff, one of my fleetmates linked it when he got lucky and got it in the first couple of days of raising a bird, but I can't remember which bird it was.

    none of them give an inertia buff.... or any other buff for that matter. They are pets you can raise for vanity use or to sell for marks.... that is it.
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,249 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Anyone know which one of the birds gives you the +0.05 Inertia buff? And if there are others to get? I know there is at least one with that inertia buff, one of my fleetmates linked it when he got lucky and got it in the first couple of days of raising a bird, but I can't remember which bird it was.
    Yeah, what Tekehd said: Birds are cosmetic pets only.

    Perhaps you're thinking of the Lohlunat Tribble?

    Details:
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Lohlunat_Tribble

    Scroll down to "Notes" for instructions on how to get one.
    If needed, see also this page regarding Tribble Breeding.

    :)

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  • spacecadet23spacecadet23 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    The last week or so I have seen actual players with the Paradise Birds as their very own pet. I have tried in game to ask them how they got them, and yet none will reply. Suspicious...:confused:

    Either way, I have a screen shot from in game where one is right there beside the player who has it as a pet. So my question is, how do we obtain it? Because they look way cooler than the ones currently allowed through the Ornithologist Doff Missions. I have sent Cryptic a ticket about it too...with the image, awaiting advice from them. :D

    If I could send an attachment on here of it I would let all see it so they could understand my conundrum. This is according to my posting rules as follows :(

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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,249 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    ...I have a screen shot from in game where one is right there beside the player who has it as a pet... If I could send an attachment on here of it I would let all see it so they could understand my conundrum...
    You can post the picture online (imgur.com is my favorite site for such things), and then post the link here (instead of embedding or "attaching" the picture itself to your post).

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • spacecadet23spacecadet23 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Ok I used the website. I hope this link thing goes well too. I am sending the Paradise Birds image for reference and comparison, plus the in-game screen shot. I'm the Gorn in the shorts, next to the pet and player near the bank console.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/kopl4

    Hopefully that works for you all.


    Also to add further mystery to this...I finally heard back from Cryptic about this same issue. Here is their reply as follows: :rolleyes:


    Deleted out...now

    I think that is so much bull. First of all I have posted on the forum...duh and second of all I have tried twice to talk to the people who have these guys in game and no one will talk back either local or private pm. Sheesh! :mad:

    At least all of you good and fine folks now have the information too. Hope you can make some headway with it. For I think something fishy is going on. :confused:
  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,249 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Ok I used the website. I hope this link thing goes well too. I am sending the Paradise Birds image for reference and comparison, plus the in-game screen shot. I'm the Gorn in the shorts, next to the pet and player near the bank console.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/kopl4
    The link works, glad I was able to help. I'm able to see the picture, though, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at. There's a person at the console with what appears may be a Passion Wing at her feet (the "hot pink" bird), and then another bird in-flight in the upper right corner of the picture (very close to the camera). This latter bird I think might be a Sunset Streamer or Firespray... I can never remember.

    I'm afraid I don't see any bird that's supposed to be a Bird of Paradise.

    Regarding the response from Cryptic. First, you'll probably want to edit your post and remove it. It's against forum rules to post private conversations in the public forums. There's no way for the public to validate the claim that the message really came from Cryptic, and often (though not in this case) there is actual private information included that shouldn't be shared.

    Second, yeah, that's a pretty typical response. The devs do post often, and Dev Blogs are made for certain topics, but otherwise Cryptic provides very little in the way of "help files" or "training" on how to play the games, they expect the player to figure it out on their own as part of the "fun" of exploring/playing the game, either by themselves or from the community. That's just the way it is.

    You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
  • spacecadet23spacecadet23 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Yeah I wish I had hindsight 20/20. I was trying to show that the bird by the console in the screen shot looks like the Paradise bird on the comparison image top row, third bird on the right with the purple and pink coloring. The other bird closer to the screenshot is a Tufted Sea Spray. But alas, at the time....I obviously didn't think to take a better screenshot or more of them. It really was a wow, that bird looks awesome, how do I get it...type deal. :)

    I have seen the other type Paradise bird though with the blue, yellow, and green patterns by owners in game too based on the image comparison of the one on the first row on the far left. Alas, I will if I see these guys before the event is over or in game afterwards, will make better effort to get something legitimate to view as far as screenshots. I'm a rookie at this...:o

    As far as the previous post, I edited out the Cryptic response as asked and informed of. I just wanted it to be known, I tried and that was the answer to my effort at finding out the deal behind my question. Hints why I got on the forum in the first place...lol Because I couldn't get answers in game and via response from Cryptic. Well it's a learning curve for me of course, but at least I got a hold of a new tool in the process and informed on posting edicate. Thanks
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