I'm thinking of investing in a Z-Store Dyson science ship - As a Tac captain, are they any good?
I'm wanting a powerful Escort-type ship so I can embark on some higher level missions.
I thought about the Dreadnaughts but I like to be manoeuvrable and have a high/decent turn rate...
I fly the free 9-console version (Aves class) on my Rom Sci and it suits me well for what I need -- I never particularly liked the Hanom and tried to run sci in a T'varo retro. I think the DSD does well for people like me who like the science role and want to play as such. But if you are tac want a powerful escort I am not so sure the DSDs are the best choice, as you have a lot more to pick from.
Consider the free Ha'feh you get at lvl 40, you also can pick up the mirror Dhelan or mirror Mogai retrofits off of the exchange. Then at level 50 you can also look at the retrofits for the non mirror Dhelan, Mogai, the T'varo and the Ar'Kif. So lots and lots of choices. Many of which won't require zen to get.
Just going off of what the guy above me said. Maneuverability isn't the DSDs strong suit but it isn't bad and can work as a cannon/turret boat. But if you use it in tac mode almost exclusively you need to build around cannon/turret, with the oddball proton dhcs -- which I am not entirely convinced tac mode is really all that much better damage wise. But you lose your big sci abilities + sub system targeting and sensor analysis. So yeah, still other choices out there that are better, even if you want to ability to pop a grav well or two every now and then.
If you are looking for a good Romulan z store ship check out the Ar'Kif. When I fly it it flys like an escort for me, and I do enough DPS that I often forget I even have a hanger bay to use as well.
As for the Dyson ship, unless you got the free version as well, then the z store one is not worth it.
Thanks for advice... Guess i'd be better saving up and getting the Hirogen Escort
Ok, if you are looking for an ESCORT, there are plenty of options better than the hirogen escort. The hirogen escort is not even close to the best escorts of the game. The Breen Raider is far better than the hirogen escort and still, is far from being equal to the best escorts in the game. And we are talking about not-faction ships, you have the bug ship (jem haddar attack ship) that is better than the hirogen and the breen raider together, and you have other ships that are even better than the jem hadar bug ship lol. So, make the maths.
If you are romulan, the Arkif is maybe the best escort ship, in conjunction with the Mogai refit, they are warbirds, but they play the role of escorts (more or less). The Arkif is just awesome. I have it on one of my rommies and it is a killing machine. The special skill you get with it, the singularity beam is useless, so i just removed it (i replaced it with the plasmonic leech console, in my opinion far better :P). But the ship itself is great. Plus you have an hangar bay, something that is an "add on" for this ship.
And if you can get the fleet version, well... even better.
I think the assault warbird, the hafeh the other guy named, is still better than the hirogen escort lol. I mean, think twice before you go for that ship, seriously.
I personally fly the Arkif and the Haakona in my rommies. I love the Haakona because i have 2 ships in one, a slow semi-tanky ship and a fast assault warbird. And its performance is really good talking about a ship of this style. I also find very useful the heal abilities of the guardian section when you use the separation console. But not the opposite. The assault section is useless in comparision lol (well all attacking "pets" of this style are useless in this game, for unknown reasons anyway).
If you are Fed aligned, go to Earth Space Dock and ask in zone chat for a free tier 5 stores invite. There are several groups that have chat channels set up specifically for people no in max fleets/not in a fleet to access high end fleet gear/ships. Most of the time its free, sometimes you have to bring your own provisions or pay for them if you aren't in a fleet (you give them the EC, they temp invite you to use their stores).
KDF side...I'm not sure of any group that does this to be honest. I'm sure they exist, just not sure who.
Also, escort wise...the T'varo/T'liss is apparently really fun to play as a "torpedo boat" xD Just throwing that in there.
For the Fed one? Send me a in-game message (@duskstrider101), and I'll get you the channel information that I'm in. The one I'm in is free, you just provide your own provisions. If you aren't in a fleet, some of the members will invite you and let you use theirs freely. It's a pretty good system. If I grab several pieces, I try and send the fleet leader a small tip as a thank you.
You can't really trade Dil, so most transactions between players is handled in either EC or Master Keys. At least from experience.
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http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1113561&page=2
That in first place, dyson ships are pure science ships with tactical options, nothing more.
And if you plan to adquire the complete bundle, just check that link the other guy posted.
Dyson destroyers, even with the name "destroyer" are not escorts, and they dont perform as escorts, so it is not your style ship.
Besides, its turn rate is ridiculous low , almost embarrasing, so no, its not the ship you are looking for, definitely.
Consider the free Ha'feh you get at lvl 40, you also can pick up the mirror Dhelan or mirror Mogai retrofits off of the exchange. Then at level 50 you can also look at the retrofits for the non mirror Dhelan, Mogai, the T'varo and the Ar'Kif. So lots and lots of choices. Many of which won't require zen to get.
Just going off of what the guy above me said. Maneuverability isn't the DSDs strong suit but it isn't bad and can work as a cannon/turret boat. But if you use it in tac mode almost exclusively you need to build around cannon/turret, with the oddball proton dhcs -- which I am not entirely convinced tac mode is really all that much better damage wise. But you lose your big sci abilities + sub system targeting and sensor analysis. So yeah, still other choices out there that are better, even if you want to ability to pop a grav well or two every now and then.
As for the Dyson ship, unless you got the free version as well, then the z store one is not worth it.
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Ok, if you are looking for an ESCORT, there are plenty of options better than the hirogen escort. The hirogen escort is not even close to the best escorts of the game. The Breen Raider is far better than the hirogen escort and still, is far from being equal to the best escorts in the game. And we are talking about not-faction ships, you have the bug ship (jem haddar attack ship) that is better than the hirogen and the breen raider together, and you have other ships that are even better than the jem hadar bug ship lol. So, make the maths.
If you are romulan, the Arkif is maybe the best escort ship, in conjunction with the Mogai refit, they are warbirds, but they play the role of escorts (more or less). The Arkif is just awesome. I have it on one of my rommies and it is a killing machine. The special skill you get with it, the singularity beam is useless, so i just removed it (i replaced it with the plasmonic leech console, in my opinion far better :P). But the ship itself is great. Plus you have an hangar bay, something that is an "add on" for this ship.
And if you can get the fleet version, well... even better.
I think the assault warbird, the hafeh the other guy named, is still better than the hirogen escort lol. I mean, think twice before you go for that ship, seriously.
I personally fly the Arkif and the Haakona in my rommies. I love the Haakona because i have 2 ships in one, a slow semi-tanky ship and a fast assault warbird. And its performance is really good talking about a ship of this style. I also find very useful the heal abilities of the guardian section when you use the separation console. But not the opposite. The assault section is useless in comparision lol (well all attacking "pets" of this style are useless in this game, for unknown reasons anyway).
Guess i'll have to look for one to join
KDF side...I'm not sure of any group that does this to be honest. I'm sure they exist, just not sure who.
Also, escort wise...the T'varo/T'liss is apparently really fun to play as a "torpedo boat" xD Just throwing that in there.
Good luck!
What would they ask for? Dilithium or EC ?
You can't really trade Dil, so most transactions between players is handled in either EC or Master Keys. At least from experience.
Also, if you want a fun community to be a part of, you should go check out this thread:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1026351
It's an in-game channel of people that like to play Star Trek for the fun, and I've gotten a ton of useful information there/pretty awesome groups.
Just my 2 EC. See you in-game!