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Cat People

grunt6grunt6 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
edited May 2014 in The Art of Star Trek Online
Has anyone else seen human looking women wearing a top star trek uniform with no pants bare feet and occasionaly a tail. I tried to talk to a player on ESD but they set their private messaging to ignore. I found the design very interesting and in the alien character creation and Caitian player there are no options for this design. Is it a dev testing something out on the live server? Or a glitch? Just curious...
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Tailor glitch. Allows players to mix all costume parts even if the species could not use it.
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  • guriphuguriphu Member Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Humanoids with tails are now canon (having appeared in the most recent Star Trek film). Alas, Cryptic hates money, so an expansion of alien parts to include tails is probably not coming.

    It's a glitch. I think it's been patched since, but it used to be possible to get off-race parts and other things like mixing and matching off-duty and uniform pieces via a certain technique, and Cryptic's general unwritten response to such things seems to be to plug the hole but let people who benefited from minor, non-gameplay-affecting bugs to keep the benefit.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    There was a glitch that allowed Rigelian females to have access to the 'tail' option in the tailor. It was, however, fixed in the May 22 patch, I believe.
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  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Instead fixing this "glitch" they should have move it to aliens.
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    guriphu wrote: »
    Humanoids with tails are now canon (having appeared in the most recent Star Trek film).

    Well what happens in those films has no impact in this game.
    Also according to Damon Lindelof, producer and co-writer of "Into Darkness", those humanoids you speak of are infact Caitians.
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So, somehow, Nero and Spock going through the black hole turned the bidpedal Caitains into, anime-style Catgirls?
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »
    So, somehow, Nero and Spock going through the black hole turned the bidpedal Caitains into, anime-style Catgirls?

    Unfortunately...I was disappointed. I thought we would see real Caitians in the JJ-verse. Not those people.
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    edited May 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »
    So, somehow, Nero and Spock going through the black hole turned the bidpedal Caitains into, anime-style Catgirls?

    After seeing their version of the Gorn this didn't shock me that much TBH.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    After seeing their version of the Gorn this didn't shock me that much TBH.

    The Gorn were cool...but Caitians..nooooo.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Well what happens in those films has no impact in this game.
    Also according to Damon Lindelof, producer and co-writer of "Into Darkness", those humanoids you speak of are infact Caitians.

    Not onscreen, not canon, not Caitians.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    artan42 wrote: »
    Not onscreen, not canon, not Caitians.

    They are Caitians in JJ-verse.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    They are Caitians in JJ-verse.

    Not onscreen, not canon, not Caitians.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    They are onscreen.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It's on-screen, so it's canon. Just not for STO.

    The sooner people accept the 'JJ-Verse' is Star Trek canon based on the common law of 'If it's on screen, it's canon', the sooner we can get around to hating on the next movie.

    If people are allowed to say the last two Star Trek movies aren't canon, then I'm allowed to say Enterprise isn't canon. It doesn't mean I'm right, it just means I'm being unreasonable and superimposing my own opinion on what is otherwise a common agreement.

    That's what it looks like on the other side of things when people say the JJ Alternate Reality isn't canon.
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Unfortunately those catgirls have been confirmed as Caitian.

    The long of it:
    http://www.startrek.com/article/exclusive-interview-damon-lindelof

    The short of it:

    She doesn't have any lines, but gets a few great reaction shots. Back on the original show, the non-core characters, a Lt. Kyle or Lt. Leslie, they were just dudes. Now we've got some exciting looking people, so it's a twist. Can you confirm that the creatures we see with Kirk during his off-hours on Earth are Caitians?

    LINDELOF: You mean the women with the tails?

    Yes, this is the species that Lt. M'Ress was, from The Animated Series.

    LINDELOF: Yes, we can confirm this.
  • lindalefflindaleff Member Posts: 3,734 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If anything, they were Cathars. (Does anyone remember Juhani?) They were NOT Caitians!
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    It's on-screen, so it's canon. Just not for STO.

    The sooner people accept the 'JJ-Verse' is Star Trek canon based on the common law of 'If it's on screen, it's canon', the sooner we can get around to hating on the next movie.

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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    centersolace wrote: »
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lindaleff wrote: »
    If anything, they were Cathars. (Does anyone remember Juhani?) They were NOT Caitians!

    They are JJ Caitians, Lindaleff, you cannot change that.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    It's on-screen, so it's canon. Just not for STO.

    The sooner people accept the 'JJ-Verse' is Star Trek canon based on the common law of 'If it's on screen, it's canon', the sooner we can get around to hating on the next movie.

    If people are allowed to say the last two Star Trek movies aren't canon, then I'm allowed to say Enterprise isn't canon. It doesn't mean I'm right, it just means I'm being unreasonable and superimposing my own opinion on what is otherwise a common agreement.

    That's what it looks like on the other side of things when people say the JJ Alternate Reality isn't canon.

    I agree with you that both "Enterprise" and JJ-Trek are both TRIBBLE. I also choose to refuse to accept them as canon, and I show their numerous inconsistencies as proof of why they should be rejected. And for those who say TOS was inconsistent, I point to out that TOS was more internally consistent than "Enterprise" ever tried.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    I agree with you that both "Enterprise" and JJ-Trek are both TRIBBLE. I also choose to refuse to accept them as canon, and I show their numerous inconsistencies as proof of why they should be rejected. And for those who say TOS was inconsistent, I point to out that TOS was more internally consistent than "Enterprise" ever tried.
    TOS.... internally consistent? TOS couldn't even agree on what the hardest substance in the universe was....

    Anyways, all anomalies in JJtrek can be handwaved as it being a parallel reality instead of a divergent timeline, and you can blame the timewar for everything wrong in ENT... actually some of the differences in ENT were explicitly blamed on the timewar... Making a full list is an exercise for the viewer.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The time war was just stupid. A good idea gone to waste. And really, don't kid yourselves, TOS was only slightly more internally consistent than Lost in Space.

    The only series that had any real consistency was DS9. And that was because DS9 was Babylon 5 with better costumes and worse bad guys.
  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,803 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    baelogventure wrote: »
    Unfortunately those catgirls have been confirmed as Caitian.

    When has Word of God ever been the final word on anything in Trek canon? The designer himself says the Akira was intended to be a type of carrier but people argue the canon of it.

    The hard rule is, if it isn't onscreen, it isn't canon. If those women weren't referred to as Caitian, then it's reasonable to argue they might not be.

    I mean, I think it's stupid, too - if an authority says it, it's canon until screen dictates otherwise. I'm just saying, people likely won't accept it for whatever inane reason.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    When has Word of God ever been the final word on anything in Trek canon? The designer himself says the Akira was intended to be a type of carrier but people argue the canon of it.

    The hard rule is, if it isn't onscreen, it isn't canon. If those women weren't referred to as Caitian, then it's reasonable to argue they might not be.

    I mean, I think it's stupid, too - if an authority says it, it's canon until screen dictates otherwise. I'm just saying, people likely won't accept it for whatever inane reason.

    Then these types of things will just become more "This isn't canon because it's JJ trek etc."


    Even though those people who declare JJ trek not canon have seen it say it is connected to the prime universe onscreen.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So what we have here are furless Caitians as seen in an Abramsverse film. A truth we can't avoid. But not as seen in any other interpretation of Star Trek to this point. Which is to our advantage. As interpreted by Cryptic, those changes to canon not originating in the Prime Trek universe can't appear in STO. Simply to avoid that confusion, I predict that this bug will be patched up and we won't see tails formally added to Alien gen.
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  • fringecutleryfringecutlery Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Am I the only one curious of how these visitors from another dimension/universe look? :confused:
  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jexsamx wrote: »
    When has Word of God ever been the final word on anything in Trek canon? The designer himself says the Akira was intended to be a type of carrier but people argue the canon of it.

    The hard rule is, if it isn't onscreen, it isn't canon. If those women weren't referred to as Caitian, then it's reasonable to argue they might not be.

    I mean, I think it's stupid, too - if an authority says it, it's canon until screen dictates otherwise. I'm just saying, people likely won't accept it for whatever inane reason.

    I think the difference here is hierarchy.
    Yes the designer of the Akira said he wanted her to have fighters.
    Or to be specific the Akira was supposed to be a fighter carrying torpedo gunship battlecruiser (literally).
    This may or may not have been okayed by the producers.

    But in this case we have an interview with the producer who was asked if he could confirm them as Caitians. And he said "we can". So either he himself has the authority to do so as a producer or he got permission from somewhere higher up to do so.

    http://www.startrek.com/article/exclusive-interview-damon-lindelof

    Can you confirm that the creatures we see with Kirk during his off-hours on Earth are Caitians?

    LINDELOF: You mean the women with the tails?

    Yes, this is the species that Lt. M'Ress was, from The Animated Series.

    LINDELOF: Yes, we can confirm this.
  • annahannah Member Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Saw one on Drozana earlier today, http://sta.sh/01m32udmf8e

    Looked so cool, wanna look like that so bad ><
  • fringecutleryfringecutlery Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    annah wrote: »
    Saw one on Drozana earlier today, http://sta.sh/01m32udmf8e
    Is that cat ears?

    You can have cat ears!?
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    They were not called Caitians onscreen so they are not Caitians, it doesn't matter what someone behind the scenes says it's not canon unless it's onscreen.

    They aren't called Caitians, they don't look like Caitians, they are not Caitians.
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