I always considered sci ships to be 3x3 (mostly) ships with sensor analysis and sub-system targetting. This included carriers. Not anymore.
Adapted Tal Shiar Battle Cruiser 4x4 with sensor analysis and 3 of 4 cruiser commands
Odyssey <just the Sci version> 4x4 with sensor analysis and Cruiser commands
Carriers (all) no longer have sensor analysis
What other ships gained or lost abilities as of 9?
Can we please stop calling ships like the Vesta or the Armitage or the Galaxy-X carriers? Because they're not.
Carriers have a full 2 hangar bays and feature heavy in the Science BOff seats. (the exceptions being the Kar'fi and the Obelisk)
Anyways I'm more interested in why we haven't seen the deflectors.
They're probably still populating loot tables with various kinds of deflector types and modifier combinations.
It's not like with cruiser commands; they're creating a whole new category of gear here.
Can we please stop calling ships like the Vesta or the Armitage or the Galaxy-X carriers? Because they're not.
Carriers have a full 2 hangar bays and feature heavy in the Science BOff seats. (the exceptions being the Kar'fi and the Obelisk)
The ships listed as gaining Sensor Analysis did not gain it. They already had it. The ship types mentioned as losing Sensor Analysis did not lose it. They didn't have it. A ship having a Cmdr Sci BOFF slot doesn't necessarily mean it is a Science Vessel.
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
Secondary Deflector (coming)
A higher base SDR.
Cryptic's already mentioned that Carriers aren't getting Secondary Deflectors, but I bet there are still going to be folks that turn around and ask why...thinking that they are Science Vessels when they are not.
Seems like just the half of the carriers (or less) are sci oriented
Ah, right. The dreadnought carrier. Which I guess would just be a suped-up battle carrier.
And yeah, carriers seem science-oriented because they were originally billed as very advanced and massive ships, able to coordinate and support not just their own entourage craft but other starships to boot.
This seems to pretty much translate into large bulky craft with significant Science BOff seats, and minor science vessel capabilities (i.e., Subsystem Targeting).
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Anyways I'm more interested in why we haven't seen the deflectors.
Because they're not.
Carriers have a full 2 hangar bays and feature heavy in the Science BOff seats. (the exceptions being the Kar'fi and the Obelisk)
They're probably still populating loot tables with various kinds of deflector types and modifier combinations.
It's not like with cruiser commands; they're creating a whole new category of gear here.
and the http://sto.gamepedia.com/Jem%27Hadar_Dreadnought_Carrier which is tac oriented
Seems like just the half of the carriers (or less) are sci oriented
In every place,
The deeds of men remain the same..."
Sensor Analysis
Subsystem Targeting
Secondary Deflector (coming)
A higher base SDR.
Cryptic's already mentioned that Carriers aren't getting Secondary Deflectors, but I bet there are still going to be folks that turn around and ask why...thinking that they are Science Vessels when they are not.
Ah, right. The dreadnought carrier. Which I guess would just be a suped-up battle carrier.
And yeah, carriers seem science-oriented because they were originally billed as very advanced and massive ships, able to coordinate and support not just their own entourage craft but other starships to boot.
This seems to pretty much translate into large bulky craft with significant Science BOff seats, and minor science vessel capabilities (i.e., Subsystem Targeting).