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dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
So, we keep having these back and forths regarding buffing and nerfing content, aux2bat (cooldown reducers) and builds on the extremes being able to breeze stfs way faster then initially designed

My suggestion...remove all cool down reducing abilities...everything from doffs, to tactical initiative, to doubling up abilities.

This "nerf" would make space battles the epicness they should be. Without cryptic having to keep on the path of pushing one shot kills.

How crazy is this?

Just enough to work
Chive on and prosper, eh?

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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,365 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    So, we keep having these back and forths regarding buffing and nerfing content, aux2bat (cooldown reducers) and builds on the extremes being able to breeze stfs way faster then initially designed

    My suggestion...remove all cool down reducing abilities...everything from doffs, to tactical initiative, to doubling up abilities.

    This "nerf" would make space battles the epicness they should be. Without cryptic having to keep on the path of pushing one shot kills.

    How crazy is this?

    Just enough to work

    No no its just crazy. If we removed coolsown reductions them there's no telling what the consequences could be.
    Men are not punished for their sins, but by them.
  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I say do i-wait. This could hurt sci too. Nevermind
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I'll do you one better and say get rid of all timers and cooldowns (both global and individual) for all weapons, abilities, and set abilities.

    You want an epic space battle? There's your epic space battle, pal.
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  • westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,365 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    I'll do you one better and say get rid of all timers and cooldowns (both global and individual) for all weapons, abilities, and set abilities.

    You want an epic space battle? There's your epic space battle, pal.

    You sir deserve a cookie.
    Men are not punished for their sins, but by them.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lets assume trying iconians way:

    8472 fleet ahead: 3 dromias, 6 nicors, 1 vila vs your ship you built well enough to withstand such odds and survive before pre cd removal. now imagine the cds gone, 8472 gw's everywhere, 1 after the next after the next, 8472 knockback beams interrupting you each and everytime. after a few moments your dead no matter how much you spam, it catches you out on reflexes for that split second.

    current estf tactical insta death torpedoes firing every moment, destroying your player fleet within seconds... and your aim was to destroy the tactical cube before it progresses...

    in pvp, insane builds become so insane in fact that the idea of competing with such players is a 1000% chance of death and failure before the match even started. sci players would consistently spam mini photon-gw torpedoes, gw's, scramble sensors, mask energy signature. tactical cruisers like the excelsior would become a significant problem having heals and tactical abilities to spam for self heal and dishing out spam damage by beams of death none stop.

    tactical players in escorts of any type of t5 and full canon build, would be hitting evasive every other moment, rapid fire bursts with massive damage potential, and those limited heals would make the defiant/bug ship/scimmy/andorian ship and such even more tankier then they were designed for, and could potentially ruin entire pvp fleets on the other side by raiding, retreating, raiding and retreating, enough that these poor players fall for it and get picked apart, especially the more troublesome ones.

    as if pvp was more about p2w then skill as it is, it will be even more critical without the global cds and such.


    Klingon players would be more or less impossible to stop like the romulans with battle cloaks. charge in at an odd angle, decloak, fire with all abilities, then cloak just after the opening burst, evasive around, decloak do the same again and again and again.


    it would be utter foolishness.
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  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    *stuff*
    it would be utter foolishness.

    So like STO most of the time then?:D
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So like STO most of the time then?:D

    except even worse. the player term facerolling and roflstomping come to mind? :P
    T6 Miranda Hero Ship FTW.
    Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014

    it would be utter foolishness.

    But, but...how bad is my idea?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • lordprotiuslordprotius Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    While i see some merit in the OPs idea... I can say for a fact that.. itll never happen...

    Who do you think came up with the aux2bat template? and then decided to buff it even more?

    The Devs... want proof? Watch any of the vids where Devs are running live playthroughs of content... and look at their trays and setups... Aux2marion on almost all the ones ive seen.
    #Aux2batman Lives!!

  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dahminus wrote: »
    But, but...how bad is my idea?

    I've heard of worse ideas. I think that's as good as you're going to get from me, for what that's worth.
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  • masterfiretrollmasterfiretroll Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    iconians wrote: »
    I'll do you one better and say get rid of all timers and cooldowns (both global and individual) for all weapons, abilities, and set abilities.

    You want an epic space battle? There's your epic space battle, pal.

    That's best advise anyone can ever be given....
    Give iconians a Borg Sized chocolatechip cookie!!!!!
  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I say do i-wait. This could hurt sci too. Nevermind

    uhm yeah sci has been hurt enough thanks. Thanks everyone thanks...no more please thanks.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I like it.

    Taking out such things would mean that *gasp* players would have to think about strategy, and judge on the best times to buff up and go for the kill. Pressure damage would also be a thing again.

    'Course if it were up to me, I'd remove traits and active doffs completely. But yeah, most won't like it. Too much work involved, too much EC invested, so on and so fourth.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    I like it.

    Taking out such things would mean that *gasp* players would have to think about strategy, and judge on the best times to buff up and go for the kill. Pressure damage would also be a thing again.

    'Course if it were up to me, I'd remove traits and active doffs completely. But yeah, most won't like it. Too much work involved, too much EC invested, so on and so fourth.

    That's a +1...woot

    I think this change would rein the power of players just enough to make all upper level NPCs difficult and menacing...just like they should be
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
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