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So.. lets talk about the elephant in the room:

derbock203derbock203 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
when are the Dominion/Breen/Cardassians and Borg coming into the Mix of choosing between factions?
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Borg should be NEVER.
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  • coupaholiccoupaholic Member Posts: 2,188 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Looks more like a dead horse to me...
  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    Looks more like a dead horse to me...

    Seems that way.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    On Cardy I am guessing never. They shot themselves in the foot by putting the Galor in a lock box on that one. the same with the Dominion. As there are already playable Breen ships, I would also say that they won't either.

    However it is not the elephant in the room as it has been talked about multiple times, so no one is avoiding talking about it.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    derbock203 wrote: »
    when are the Dominion/Breen/Cardassians and Borg coming into the Mix of choosing between factions?
    I think, at this stage the only ones that have potential are the Cardassians, and even that's unlikely. Excusing the Galor argument (which is a lame one at best) the Cardassians are the only faction that is both desired, and is in a position to be implemented.

    The Dominion are their own faction, and for the time being at least want nothing to do with what's going on with the Iconian plot (though no doubt they'll be involved in the war at a later stage when they become threatened). I doubt there's any chance of the Breen either, they're a complicated species that seem to act more like drones than anything else.
    walshicus wrote: »
    Borg should be NEVER.
    +1
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hopefully the Borg will never be a playable faction, and the same for the Dominion. They are both the traditional "bad guys" from various series so it would just be a bit odd. Plus there's still no true peace between either of them and the current factions.

    Rather than a new faction I would like to see some sort of smaller scale expansion of existing minor factions like Andorians, Vulcans, Orions etc. they have a few ships in game and you can play them but their homeworlds are seriously neglected. A wider variety of ships for all tiers from these races would add something to playing them as your character.
    I mean all we have is the D'kyr, the Andorian escort and the Atrox on the fed side. Add in some more ships for those races and give their homeworlds some attention.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Rather than a new faction I would like to see some sort of smaller scale expansion of existing minor factions like Andorians, Vulcans, Orions etc.
    I've mentioned it before in another topic (I'll have to dig it out later) but I'd be in favor of lock box species (such as Cardassian) by where the best reward is a unique species character token which is enabled for any faction.

    If said option was a Cardassian, you'd start with a faction specific ship for Levels #1 - #10, then you'd be required to use your faction ships until you hit Level #40 where you'd again be able to use a unique ship, with a Fleet Upgrade at level #50. Lesser rewards would be bridge officers for said species.

    They could do this for a whole bunch of species, Cardassian, Suliban, Vorta, Jem Hadar etc

    It would sell too.

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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Whilst the lockbox idea looks good I think possibly a simpler way would be a reward pack that lets you change to a species and you are also given a ship which will level with your character (same as a shuttle does). That way you are only giving access to a single ship and don't need to design lots of ships for various mini factions at different levels.

    Alternately make it a c-store purchase item.

    It's unlikely to ever be implemented but it would be fun if it was.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So, today:

    T5 connie thread - Check
    Borg playable faction thread - Check
    Rant about the most recent ship thread - Check

    Looks like we just need the usual "The game is unstable for me only, and the server is to blame" thread.
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  • orondisorondis Member Posts: 1,447 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    derbock203 wrote: »
    when are the Dominion/Breen/Cardassians and Borg coming into the Mix of choosing between factions?

    Probably never. With the exception of the Borg, most of those faction's ships are already via lockbox (whereas the only Romulan ships that were made available were special Borg-adapted ships).

    As for the Borg, we'll only get that as a playable faction if Cryptic totally loses all sanity.

    Of the lot, the Cardassians are most likely, since only one ship is available via lockbox and their one of the more fleshed out species. Given the cost vs reward to develop a new faction, I'm doubting it though.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    Whilst the lockbox idea looks good I think possibly a simpler way would be a reward pack that lets you change to a species and you are also given a ship which will level with your character (same as a shuttle does). That way you are only giving access to a single ship and don't need to design lots of ships for various mini factions at different levels.
    The problem with that, Cryptic would lose potential custom.

    Think, F2P players need to purchase their additional bank and inventory slots. If they're given a Cardassian or Vorta character change token, they don't have to buy those slots all over again, whereas if they're simply given a character slot, then they start afresh and are required to purchase those slots again.

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    lordsteve1 wrote: »
    It's unlikely to ever be implemented but it would be fun if it was.
    It's a bit late now, but (in hindsight) I wish they released the Romulans in the above fashion.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Then make it a token for use on a new character. That would entice people to start multiple alts and them these new alts would need their own rep gear and fleets, therefore pushing more $$$$ in Cryptic's direction.

    Might also show the player base that they appreciate people want to run alts.

    If you really wanted to allow some choices make the token offer a choice of races/factions. Each choice gives a new player token and a levelling ship that matches the race chosen.
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Seems to me with the delta quadrant push, they could open a few totally new space zones outside the Jenolan sphere. In there you have 3-6 new species with a new homeworld that joins one of the three factions.

    Like having Talaxians choosing to side with the federation as they know of them. The Kazon seeking the strength of the Klingon Empire. Maybe the krenim to the Romulan Republic to maintain a level of neutrality. They get an intro similar to Virinat and are rescued by the respective alliance members Then travel up through their own arcs while aligned. And as usual the Romulan aligned race at level 10/11 chooses which of the two major factions he/she wishes to favour. So you put the most popular race there.

    All factions grow. All new adventure areas are set. Desire for even more races with ships and abilities met.

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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    So, today:

    T5 connie thread - Check
    Borg playable faction thread - Check
    Rant about the most recent ship thread - Check

    Looks like we just need the usual "The game is unstable for me only, and the server is to blame" thread.

    lol
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    So, today:

    T5 connie thread - Check
    Borg playable faction thread - Check
    Rant about the most recent ship thread - Check

    Looks like we just need the usual "The game is unstable for me only, and the server is to blame" thread.

    So in other words, it's a normal day on STO Forums?

    @Flash; Whilst I often love your ideas, I have to say that species in a lockbox is a big no as far as i'm concerned.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    decronia wrote: »
    On Cardy I am guessing never. They shot themselves in the foot by putting the Galor in a lock box on that one. the same with the Dominion. As there are already playable Breen ships, I would also say that they won't either.
    Not if they take my suggestion. :<
    decronia wrote: »
    However it is not the elephant in the room as it has been talked about multiple times, so no one is avoiding talking about it.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    feiqa wrote: »
    The Kazon seeking the strength of the Klingon Empire.

    Yeah, the Kazon would see the Klingons' strength and then probably run right into a star trying to seek it. They're complete morons.
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  • ejsphcrispejsphcrisp Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Not if they take my suggestion. :<

    Holy TRIBBLE this.

    This:

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  • ejsphcrispejsphcrisp Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited May 2014
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    Yeah, the Kazon would see the Klingons' strength and then probably run right into a star trying to seek it. They're complete morons.

    kazon are not fools despite their low intelligence, they know combat and how powerful words and diplomacy is, considering how much each kazon sects fight each other and other alien races. with the right leadership the Kazon race could become something of a significant threat. however Kazon as i wrote are not fools because they dont trust uniforms of any types because of their enslavement to the trabe until recently. Kazon would never willingly serve an enemy, even when there is no other choice.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    Looks more like a dead horse to me...

    Could this argument be made by beating a dead elephant? :confused: :P
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Could this argument be made by beating a dead elephant? :confused: :P

    why flog a dead horse around when you can paint an elephant white and know its meaning as far the thread goes.
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    coupaholic wrote: »
    Looks more like a dead horse to me...

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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Could this argument be made by beating a dead elephant? :confused: :P

    Well see, when it's a big enough dead horse then a horse is no longer of sufficient size, thus we graduate up to beating a dead elephant. :D
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    shpoks wrote: »
    Could this argument be made by beating a dead elephant? :confused: :P

    True and given its' size it would take longer to get to the point where you're no longer beating the horse but are down to the bedrock.
  • protogothprotogoth Member Posts: 2,369 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    derbock203 wrote: »
    when are the Dominion/Breen/Cardassians and Borg coming into the Mix of choosing between factions?

    Hopefully, never. The only one of those that makes even the tiniest bit of sense is Cardassian, and not as a faction, but rather as a playable species within the Federation.
  • ejsphcrispejsphcrisp Member Posts: 145 Arc User
    edited May 2014
  • knuhteb5knuhteb5 Member Posts: 1,831 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    So, today:

    T5 connie thread - Check
    Borg playable faction thread - Check
    Rant about the most recent ship thread - Check

    Looks like we just need the usual "The game is unstable for me only, and the server is to blame" thread.

    Also, we're still waiting on a rant about disco balls thread that pops up every few days.

    OP, next faction will most likely be the cardis since that was the second most popular faction in the last big poll cryptic did on the forums a few years ago. Question is when will it come out. My guess is next summer.
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  • chiyoumikuchiyoumiku Member Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    anazonda wrote: »
    So, today:

    T5 connie thread - Check
    Borg playable faction thread - Check
    Rant about the most recent ship thread - Check

    Looks like we just need the usual "The game is unstable for me only, and the server is to blame" thread.

    The game is unstable for me and the server is to blame. There now you have them all :D
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