Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?
Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?
That's All. Cheers!
Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.
Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.
LOL... the Bortasqu and the Odyssey sucks?? lol, dude , what game are you playing.
One thing is that almost any ship is inferior to the scimitar, but if you say the bortasq and the odyssey sucks.. you dont have absoultely any idea. Maybe you are the typical player that , if you cant get the most highly DPS ships in the game, the rest are TRIBBLE.
And i prefer by far the Bortasqu, than the Scimitar, i get literally BORED using the scimitar. Dude it is the most boring ship ive ever used. It is better than the Bortasqu, sure, it is funnier, i dont think so lol.
Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?
Not seeing them retroactively making a "2nd Anniversary giveaway" version of the Scimi, which is how the Oddy/Bort in the fleet stores came about.
-shrug-
Fleet Odyssey is a great ship...C-Store Odyssey in my opinion is the best ship of course this is coming from an Oddy only captain.
However, I think the Oddy needs another upgrade, after all it is the Federations flag ship...I propose making the Aquarius an actual hangar pet and not just a universal console that can't be used at the same time as Chevron separation. just my two cents.
Fleet Admiral Thomas Winston James a.k.a. The Grayfox Fleet Leader of:
Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
Liberty Guardians U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class
the only time the oddgoose doesnt suck, is when it blows... up in chunks. which is still it sucking. bort has the potential to be a second place dps-wise, to the scimi in pve, with careful planning, but its still a lemon compared to the scim due to the atrocious agility.
And why the hell do you need to compare it with the scimitar?? always the same story.. seriously lol.
I must say my bortasqu is a killing machine. And using 2 RCS consoles plus the whole set, its even funnier. And i really dont care about the scimitar, since i play this game for having fun. Something that i never had flying the scimitar, not after the first month , anyways. The scimitar should never get a fleet version, ever. That will be the ultimate step to the total creep overhaul.
Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.
LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).
I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Honestly, I wish they had never made the scimitar. Dont get me wrong...its fun to roll in and just kick the TRIBBLE out of everything but the game would have been better off not making any 5-3 lships imo.
That said, I think its a reasonable comparison between the Large ship bundles for each faction...they just came out at different times.
Still trying to justify getting the Oddy. I have cruisers that do what it does as good or better as far as I can tell. Only thing I wonder about is the Sci oddy with Sen Analysis but the Fleet Support has more tac consoles and better turn rate....shrug.
Love the Bort. It just seems better designed than the Oddy. The consoles are more useful it seems and if you dont run them and go full FAW mode on a 5 tac console tac Borty...tis quite fun.
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LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).
I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.
ROFLMAO nice.
BTW... GDI called, they want their Ion Cannon back.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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The Oddy is a fantastic ship and can do great things in the hands of a skilled Captain.
It's a pity everyone is judging a ship for it's DPS capabilities only. Previous posters, be ashamed of yourself! The Odyssey is a formidable Tank and Support ship, and still can put out some damage. i've blown XX Scimitars in PvP and Kerrat up to now and that not due to having over 30k DPS. In PvE? Well, since you can do 99% of the content in a T3 ship, it doesn't matter at all!
However, have fun with your 50k Scimitars and cya around...
Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?
That's All. Cheers!
Scimitar bundle wasn't launched with Anniversary, nor Vesta, no freebies then.
Even in the case, that would be a borked down Falchion (because it's RRF variant, no Scimitar, too easy to ask for a nerfed version of it).
Comm and ensign tac, Lt. and LtComm engi ,Lt. sci. (no unis)
3 / 3 / 3 console layout, unable to use any of Scimitar consoles, 1 shield modifier, 36k hull HP, hangar unable to launch drone ships.
Cost 200k FC or 20k FC and two FSM (like Obelisk).
LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).
I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.
ahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahahah I'm dying at this!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
odyssey is good cruiser if you want to tank, but not much else, the bortas is good for PvE i guess, its turn rate is too low for it to be usable in PvP, the scimitar on the other hand is laughably powerful due to 5 tac consoles+battle cloak+hangar with a great pet and 5/3 configuration.
cryptic IMO needs to:
buff the odyssey turn rate by 1(odyssey is supposed to be state of the art fed cruiser, why does it has the worst turn of all cruisers?), and the bortas turn rate by 2 or preferably 3(bortas is supposed to be a battlecruiser, it should have a turn rate like one does).
change tac odyssey console configuration to 4/2/4 so it actually feels "tac" oriented, scimitar is the tac of the scimitar tri-pack as has 5 tac consoles, bortasqu tactical cruiser is tac version of the bortasqu tri-pack which also has 5 tac consoles, why does tac oddy has mere 3, give it at least 4.
give the odyssey and the bortas a hangar slot and turn the hoh'sus and the aquarius into hangar pets for their respective ships, the scimitar has a hangar, it has battlecloak, its so blatantly superior to the other flagships its laughable.
if the idea of a hangar bothers people too much, at least do something like "fusing" the aquarius and hoh'sus pets to their respective ships as permanent hangar pets, that way they will actually be useful for something that isn't merely blowing themselves up, cryptic set the precedent of "fusing" things into ships with the tempest, they could do the same to the odyssey and bortasqu pets.
I dont know about the scim, was thinking of getting the packs for my rommy, but really. The oddy is so versatile, i feel like im flyng a different ship just by changing the boffs on the universal consoles.
Not to mention the fact that you add borg tech to the ship and it just looks meaner.
Ive had mine for close on two months now and love every inch of it. i remember my sisters kid asking, why is yours not blue like that other one near ESD. Cause i like my leo paint.
That said, im still working on the kinks of my hull and shield. Hopefully adding assim tech from omega will fix my dying in elites. Could you guys give me hints on what to put on my consoles . Granted i have all three consoles .
Whether you think you are right or wrong, either way you are RIGHT.
Honestly, I wish they had never made the scimitar. Don't get me wrong...its fun to roll in and just kick the TRIBBLE out of everything but the game would have been better off not making any 5-3 lships imo.
...
I've felt the same way. Sadly, it's bad enough the Romulan's are so overpowered that it's not funny. The Scimitar has literally set the DPS bar so high that the game now lacks any real challenge.
It's obvious that Cryptic is hell bent of satisfying the casual gamers (and those obsessed with DPS), but those of us whom are real loyalists, have to deal with pathetic science abilities or hybrid tactical science ships. Or a Aggression system that's so restarted that it deserves it's own classification in a medical journal. For example, my Vesta attracts more Aggression than someone in a Scimitar that's blowing everything up. How does that work? Because science ships are the weakest DPS wise? I would still be fighting one Borg Sphere, then I"m jumped by another 4. Yet the Pilot in the Scimitar that just killed 4 borg spheres in 30 seconds has no one else left to fight. The Sphere's gang up on me who's having a 1 on 1 fight but ignore the ship that killed 4 of their comrades in 30 seconds.
One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
That said, im still working on the kinks of my hull and shield. Hopefully adding assim tech from omega will fix my dying in elites. Could you guys give me hints on what to put on my consoles . Granted i have all three consoles .
The Odyssey is a great and beautiful ship. Here is a link to my PvP and basically PvE build:
This is a proven build. You should be able to tank the Tactical Cube and Gate together in Infected Elite. Also, you can tank Donatra's beam standing still and you know how everyone runs away in Crystalline Entity...yeah you don't have to.
Hope this helps.
Fleet Admiral Thomas Winston James a.k.a. The Grayfox Fleet Leader of:
Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
Liberty Guardians U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class
odyssey is good cruiser if you want to tank, but not much else, the bortas is good for PvE i guess, its turn rate is too low for it to be usable in PvP, the scimitar on the other hand is laughably powerful due to 5 tac consoles+battle cloak+hangar with a great pet and 5/3 configuration.
cryptic IMO needs to:
buff the odyssey turn rate by 1(odyssey is supposed to be state of the art fed cruiser, why does it has the worst turn of all cruisers?), and the bortas turn rate by 2 or preferably 3(bortas is supposed to be a battlecruiser, it should have a turn rate like one does).
change tac odyssey console configuration to 4/2/4 so it actually feels "tac" oriented, scimitar is the tac of the scimitar tri-pack as has 5 tac consoles, bortasqu tactical cruiser is tac version of the bortasqu tri-pack which also has 5 tac consoles, why does tac oddy has mere 3, give it at least 4.
give the odyssey and the bortas a hangar slot and turn the hoh'sus and the aquarius into hangar pets for their respective ships, the scimitar has a hangar, it has battlecloak, its so blatantly superior to the other flagships its laughable.
if the idea of a hangar bothers people too much, at least do something like "fusing" the aquarius and hoh'sus pets to their respective ships as permanent hangar pets, that way they will actually be useful for something that isn't merely blowing themselves up, cryptic set the precedent of "fusing" things into ships with the tempest, they could do the same to the odyssey and bortasqu pets.
do all this, and the flagships will be fixed.
I own the 3-pack Scimitar and the tac Bortasqu and I sign to this.
I didn't buy the Odissey because of the very few tac consoles. I might understand 3 tac consoles for a Galaxy but give the tac Odissey at least 4 consoles... then i might think of buying it
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Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.
LOL... the Bortasqu and the Odyssey sucks?? lol, dude , what game are you playing.
One thing is that almost any ship is inferior to the scimitar, but if you say the bortasq and the odyssey sucks.. you dont have absoultely any idea. Maybe you are the typical player that , if you cant get the most highly DPS ships in the game, the rest are TRIBBLE.
And i prefer by far the Bortasqu, than the Scimitar, i get literally BORED using the scimitar. Dude it is the most boring ship ive ever used. It is better than the Bortasqu, sure, it is funnier, i dont think so lol.
Not seeing them retroactively making a "2nd Anniversary giveaway" version of the Scimi, which is how the Oddy/Bort in the fleet stores came about.
-shrug-
However, I think the Oddy needs another upgrade, after all it is the Federations flag ship...I propose making the Aquarius an actual hangar pet and not just a universal console that can't be used at the same time as Chevron separation.
Fleet Leader of:
Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
Liberty Guardians
U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class
Game Handle: Grayfox@GrayfoxJames
Website: https://www.libertytaskforce.com
Armada (STOFA Member Fleet): https://www.libertytaskforce.com/stofa
Discord: https://discord.gg/bGp9N7z
Twitter: STOFA@LTFGrayfox
Email: CSDynamix@Hotmail.com
And why the hell do you need to compare it with the scimitar?? always the same story.. seriously lol.
I must say my bortasqu is a killing machine. And using 2 RCS consoles plus the whole set, its even funnier. And i really dont care about the scimitar, since i play this game for having fun. Something that i never had flying the scimitar, not after the first month , anyways. The scimitar should never get a fleet version, ever. That will be the ultimate step to the total creep overhaul.
LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).
I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.
That said, I think its a reasonable comparison between the Large ship bundles for each faction...they just came out at different times.
Still trying to justify getting the Oddy. I have cruisers that do what it does as good or better as far as I can tell. Only thing I wonder about is the Sci oddy with Sen Analysis but the Fleet Support has more tac consoles and better turn rate....shrug.
Love the Bort. It just seems better designed than the Oddy. The consoles are more useful it seems and if you dont run them and go full FAW mode on a 5 tac console tac Borty...tis quite fun.
ROFLMAO nice.
BTW... GDI called, they want their Ion Cannon back.
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The Oddy is a fantastic ship and can do great things in the hands of a skilled Captain.
It's a pity everyone is judging a ship for it's DPS capabilities only. Previous posters, be ashamed of yourself! The Odyssey is a formidable Tank and Support ship, and still can put out some damage. i've blown XX Scimitars in PvP and Kerrat up to now and that not due to having over 30k DPS. In PvE? Well, since you can do 99% of the content in a T3 ship, it doesn't matter at all!
However, have fun with your 50k Scimitars and cya around...
Scimitar bundle wasn't launched with Anniversary, nor Vesta, no freebies then.
Even in the case, that would be a borked down Falchion (because it's RRF variant, no Scimitar, too easy to ask for a nerfed version of it).
Comm and ensign tac, Lt. and LtComm engi ,Lt. sci. (no unis)
3 / 3 / 3 console layout, unable to use any of Scimitar consoles, 1 shield modifier, 36k hull HP, hangar unable to launch drone ships.
Cost 200k FC or 20k FC and two FSM (like Obelisk).
ahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahahah I'm dying at this!
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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cryptic IMO needs to:
buff the odyssey turn rate by 1(odyssey is supposed to be state of the art fed cruiser, why does it has the worst turn of all cruisers?), and the bortas turn rate by 2 or preferably 3(bortas is supposed to be a battlecruiser, it should have a turn rate like one does).
change tac odyssey console configuration to 4/2/4 so it actually feels "tac" oriented, scimitar is the tac of the scimitar tri-pack as has 5 tac consoles, bortasqu tactical cruiser is tac version of the bortasqu tri-pack which also has 5 tac consoles, why does tac oddy has mere 3, give it at least 4.
give the odyssey and the bortas a hangar slot and turn the hoh'sus and the aquarius into hangar pets for their respective ships, the scimitar has a hangar, it has battlecloak, its so blatantly superior to the other flagships its laughable.
if the idea of a hangar bothers people too much, at least do something like "fusing" the aquarius and hoh'sus pets to their respective ships as permanent hangar pets, that way they will actually be useful for something that isn't merely blowing themselves up, cryptic set the precedent of "fusing" things into ships with the tempest, they could do the same to the odyssey and bortasqu pets.
do all this, and the flagships will be fixed.
Not to mention the fact that you add borg tech to the ship and it just looks meaner.
Ive had mine for close on two months now and love every inch of it. i remember my sisters kid asking, why is yours not blue like that other one near ESD. Cause i like my leo paint.
That said, im still working on the kinks of my hull and shield. Hopefully adding assim tech from omega will fix my dying in elites. Could you guys give me hints on what to put on my consoles . Granted i have all three consoles .
thought that was Hoth needing a new one after their old one FROZE *not really lol* :P
I've felt the same way. Sadly, it's bad enough the Romulan's are so overpowered that it's not funny. The Scimitar has literally set the DPS bar so high that the game now lacks any real challenge.
It's obvious that Cryptic is hell bent of satisfying the casual gamers (and those obsessed with DPS), but those of us whom are real loyalists, have to deal with pathetic science abilities or hybrid tactical science ships. Or a Aggression system that's so restarted that it deserves it's own classification in a medical journal. For example, my Vesta attracts more Aggression than someone in a Scimitar that's blowing everything up. How does that work? Because science ships are the weakest DPS wise? I would still be fighting one Borg Sphere, then I"m jumped by another 4. Yet the Pilot in the Scimitar that just killed 4 borg spheres in 30 seconds has no one else left to fight. The Sphere's gang up on me who's having a 1 on 1 fight but ignore the ship that killed 4 of their comrades in 30 seconds.
The Odyssey is a great and beautiful ship. Here is a link to my PvP and basically PvE build:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1083591
This is a proven build. You should be able to tank the Tactical Cube and Gate together in Infected Elite. Also, you can tank Donatra's beam standing still and you know how everyone runs away in Crystalline Entity...yeah you don't have to.
Hope this helps.
Fleet Leader of:
Liberty Task Force/Liberty Honor Guard
Pride of the Federation/Pride of the Empire
Liberty Guardians
U.S.S. Liberty, NX-42813-L, T-6 Legendary Odyssey Class
Game Handle: Grayfox@GrayfoxJames
Website: https://www.libertytaskforce.com
Armada (STOFA Member Fleet): https://www.libertytaskforce.com/stofa
Discord: https://discord.gg/bGp9N7z
Twitter: STOFA@LTFGrayfox
Email: CSDynamix@Hotmail.com
I didn't buy the Odissey because of the very few tac consoles. I might understand 3 tac consoles for a Galaxy but give the tac Odissey at least 4 consoles... then i might think of buying it