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flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?

That's All. Cheers!
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  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?

    That's All. Cheers!

    Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    serevn wrote: »
    Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.

    LOL... the Bortasqu and the Odyssey sucks?? lol, dude , what game are you playing.

    One thing is that almost any ship is inferior to the scimitar, but if you say the bortasq and the odyssey sucks.. you dont have absoultely any idea. Maybe you are the typical player that , if you cant get the most highly DPS ships in the game, the rest are TRIBBLE.

    And i prefer by far the Bortasqu, than the Scimitar, i get literally BORED using the scimitar. Dude it is the most boring ship ive ever used. It is better than the Bortasqu, sure, it is funnier, i dont think so lol.
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  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?

    Not seeing them retroactively making a "2nd Anniversary giveaway" version of the Scimi, which is how the Oddy/Bort in the fleet stores came about.
    -shrug-
  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Fleet Odyssey is a great ship...C-Store Odyssey in my opinion is the best ship :D of course this is coming from an Oddy only captain.

    However, I think the Oddy needs another upgrade, after all it is the Federations flag ship...I propose making the Aquarius an actual hangar pet and not just a universal console that can't be used at the same time as Chevron separation. :) just my two cents.
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  • rosetyler51rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I say make a freebie version of the Scimitar or make a "real" Republic flagship.
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    skollulfr wrote: »
    the only time the oddgoose doesnt suck, is when it blows... up in chunks. which is still it sucking. bort has the potential to be a second place dps-wise, to the scimi in pve, with careful planning, but its still a lemon compared to the scim due to the atrocious agility.

    And why the hell do you need to compare it with the scimitar?? always the same story.. seriously lol.

    I must say my bortasqu is a killing machine. And using 2 RCS consoles plus the whole set, its even funnier. And i really dont care about the scimitar, since i play this game for having fun. Something that i never had flying the scimitar, not after the first month , anyways. The scimitar should never get a fleet version, ever. That will be the ultimate step to the total creep overhaul.
  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    serevn wrote: »
    Cause the Scimitar is OP while the Odyssey and Bortasqu' suck. So no.

    LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).

    I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.
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  • varthelmvarthelm Member Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Honestly, I wish they had never made the scimitar. Dont get me wrong...its fun to roll in and just kick the TRIBBLE out of everything but the game would have been better off not making any 5-3 lships imo.

    That said, I think its a reasonable comparison between the Large ship bundles for each faction...they just came out at different times.

    Still trying to justify getting the Oddy. I have cruisers that do what it does as good or better as far as I can tell. Only thing I wonder about is the Sci oddy with Sen Analysis but the Fleet Support has more tac consoles and better turn rate....shrug.

    Love the Bort. It just seems better designed than the Oddy. The consoles are more useful it seems and if you dont run them and go full FAW mode on a 5 tac console tac Borty...tis quite fun.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    edited May 2014
    atlantra wrote: »
    LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).

    I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.

    ROFLMAO nice.
    BTW... GDI called, they want their Ion Cannon back. :D
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  • ricorosebudricorosebud Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    2nd year Anniversary, that was good stuff.

    The Oddy is a fantastic ship and can do great things in the hands of a skilled Captain.
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  • ltdata96ltdata96 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    2nd year Anniversary, that was good stuff.

    The Oddy is a fantastic ship and can do great things in the hands of a skilled Captain.

    It's a pity everyone is judging a ship for it's DPS capabilities only. Previous posters, be ashamed of yourself! The Odyssey is a formidable Tank and Support ship, and still can put out some damage. i've blown XX Scimitars in PvP and Kerrat up to now and that not due to having over 30k DPS. In PvE? Well, since you can do 99% of the content in a T3 ship, it doesn't matter at all!
    However, have fun with your 50k Scimitars and cya around...
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    flash525 wrote: »
    Just a thought, but the Odyssey and BortaS can be obtained for 200k Fleet Credits as a Tier #5 Ship (with 9 consoles etc). The Republic doesn't have this option however. Any chance the Republic could get similar treatment in a lesser Scimitar?

    That's All. Cheers!

    Scimitar bundle wasn't launched with Anniversary, nor Vesta, no freebies then.
    Even in the case, that would be a borked down Falchion (because it's RRF variant, no Scimitar, too easy to ask for a nerfed version of it).
    Comm and ensign tac, Lt. and LtComm engi ,Lt. sci. (no unis)
    3 / 3 / 3 console layout, unable to use any of Scimitar consoles, 1 shield modifier, 36k hull HP, hangar unable to launch drone ships.
    Cost 200k FC or 20k FC and two FSM (like Obelisk).
    atlantra wrote: »
    LMAO. The real joke is all of them costs the same price. IE: $50 for a Bazooka (odyssey pack) , $50 for a Artillery cannon (Bortasqu pack), or $50 for 80 nuclear missiles, 13 rail-guns , and a orbital Ion Cannon (scimitar pack).

    I find cryptic's pricing methods very funny.

    ahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahahah I'm dying at this! :D
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    I would like a nerfed non-customisable Scimitar.
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  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    odyssey is good cruiser if you want to tank, but not much else, the bortas is good for PvE i guess, its turn rate is too low for it to be usable in PvP, the scimitar on the other hand is laughably powerful due to 5 tac consoles+battle cloak+hangar with a great pet and 5/3 configuration.

    cryptic IMO needs to:

    buff the odyssey turn rate by 1(odyssey is supposed to be state of the art fed cruiser, why does it has the worst turn of all cruisers?), and the bortas turn rate by 2 or preferably 3(bortas is supposed to be a battlecruiser, it should have a turn rate like one does).

    change tac odyssey console configuration to 4/2/4 so it actually feels "tac" oriented, scimitar is the tac of the scimitar tri-pack as has 5 tac consoles, bortasqu tactical cruiser is tac version of the bortasqu tri-pack which also has 5 tac consoles, why does tac oddy has mere 3, give it at least 4.

    give the odyssey and the bortas a hangar slot and turn the hoh'sus and the aquarius into hangar pets for their respective ships, the scimitar has a hangar, it has battlecloak, its so blatantly superior to the other flagships its laughable.

    if the idea of a hangar bothers people too much, at least do something like "fusing" the aquarius and hoh'sus pets to their respective ships as permanent hangar pets, that way they will actually be useful for something that isn't merely blowing themselves up, cryptic set the precedent of "fusing" things into ships with the tempest, they could do the same to the odyssey and bortasqu pets.

    do all this, and the flagships will be fixed.
  • chrishellmax2363chrishellmax2363 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I dont know about the scim, was thinking of getting the packs for my rommy, but really. The oddy is so versatile, i feel like im flyng a different ship just by changing the boffs on the universal consoles.
    Not to mention the fact that you add borg tech to the ship and it just looks meaner.

    Ive had mine for close on two months now and love every inch of it. i remember my sisters kid asking, why is yours not blue like that other one near ESD. Cause i like my leo paint.

    That said, im still working on the kinks of my hull and shield. Hopefully adding assim tech from omega will fix my dying in elites. Could you guys give me hints on what to put on my consoles . Granted i have all three consoles .
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  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rattler2 wrote: »
    ROFLMAO nice.
    BTW... GDI called, they want their Ion Cannon back. :D

    thought that was Hoth needing a new one after their old one FROZE *not really lol* :P
  • atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    varthelm wrote: »
    Honestly, I wish they had never made the scimitar. Don't get me wrong...its fun to roll in and just kick the TRIBBLE out of everything but the game would have been better off not making any 5-3 lships imo.

    ...

    I've felt the same way. Sadly, it's bad enough the Romulan's are so overpowered that it's not funny. The Scimitar has literally set the DPS bar so high that the game now lacks any real challenge.

    It's obvious that Cryptic is hell bent of satisfying the casual gamers (and those obsessed with DPS), but those of us whom are real loyalists, have to deal with pathetic science abilities or hybrid tactical science ships. Or a Aggression system that's so restarted that it deserves it's own classification in a medical journal. For example, my Vesta attracts more Aggression than someone in a Scimitar that's blowing everything up. How does that work? Because science ships are the weakest DPS wise? I would still be fighting one Borg Sphere, then I"m jumped by another 4. Yet the Pilot in the Scimitar that just killed 4 borg spheres in 30 seconds has no one else left to fight. The Sphere's gang up on me who's having a 1 on 1 fight but ignore the ship that killed 4 of their comrades in 30 seconds.
    One day Cryptic will be free from their Perfect World overlord. Until that day comes, they will continue to pamper the whales of this game, and ignore everyone that isn't a whale.
  • grayfoxjamesgrayfoxjames Member Posts: 1,516 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That said, im still working on the kinks of my hull and shield. Hopefully adding assim tech from omega will fix my dying in elites. Could you guys give me hints on what to put on my consoles . Granted i have all three consoles .

    The Odyssey is a great and beautiful ship. Here is a link to my PvP and basically PvE build:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1083591

    This is a proven build. You should be able to tank the Tactical Cube and Gate together in Infected Elite. Also, you can tank Donatra's beam standing still and you know how everyone runs away in Crystalline Entity...yeah you don't have to.

    Hope this helps.
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  • spaceeagle20spaceeagle20 Member Posts: 971 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    phoenicius wrote: »
    odyssey is good cruiser if you want to tank, but not much else, the bortas is good for PvE i guess, its turn rate is too low for it to be usable in PvP, the scimitar on the other hand is laughably powerful due to 5 tac consoles+battle cloak+hangar with a great pet and 5/3 configuration.

    cryptic IMO needs to:

    buff the odyssey turn rate by 1(odyssey is supposed to be state of the art fed cruiser, why does it has the worst turn of all cruisers?), and the bortas turn rate by 2 or preferably 3(bortas is supposed to be a battlecruiser, it should have a turn rate like one does).

    change tac odyssey console configuration to 4/2/4 so it actually feels "tac" oriented, scimitar is the tac of the scimitar tri-pack as has 5 tac consoles, bortasqu tactical cruiser is tac version of the bortasqu tri-pack which also has 5 tac consoles, why does tac oddy has mere 3, give it at least 4.

    give the odyssey and the bortas a hangar slot and turn the hoh'sus and the aquarius into hangar pets for their respective ships, the scimitar has a hangar, it has battlecloak, its so blatantly superior to the other flagships its laughable.

    if the idea of a hangar bothers people too much, at least do something like "fusing" the aquarius and hoh'sus pets to their respective ships as permanent hangar pets, that way they will actually be useful for something that isn't merely blowing themselves up, cryptic set the precedent of "fusing" things into ships with the tempest, they could do the same to the odyssey and bortasqu pets.

    do all this, and the flagships will be fixed.
    I own the 3-pack Scimitar and the tac Bortasqu and I sign to this.
    I didn't buy the Odissey because of the very few tac consoles. I might understand 3 tac consoles for a Galaxy but give the tac Odissey at least 4 consoles... then i might think of buying it
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  • hyefatherhyefather Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If I had a dollor for everytime I read the word "suck" in the forums.
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