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hornet6hornet6 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
We all know that skills, builds,doffs and boffs affect a ship's performance but my question is, which ship provides the "best" sort of "base" on which to build a pvp "master" ship, one feared by all! I have my own opinions but am interested in the opinions of others here, based on their experiences in the pvp arena. What is the best "foundation" ship or "ship platform" on which to build a ship for each faction, Fed, Kling and Rom. Your thoughts?
ANOTHER NERF !?!
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  • ledgend1221ledgend1221 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think the Scimitar is the one people are after judging from my very brief dabble in PvP.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The best is whatever works for you.
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  • hornet6hornet6 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Voice tone is absent from online typed messages so please accept that I am not being flippant. In regard to reply post #3, I know (or at least think I know) what works best for me. I was wondering what others believe which is the best "ship platform" on which to build a ship that seems to work well for everyone, or at leaset the largest number of people.

    As to it, Is the scimitar so awesome that people cringe when it uncloaks in pvp? It has always seemed slow to me.
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  • serevnserevn Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Generally its the Scimitar, bug ship, or some science, usually a temporal science vessel. Post 3 is indeed most likely messing with you. As you can't take anything you want with the way Cryptic fields ships currently.

    Bug ships have annoyingly been pre-dominant since they came out for tacticals if your going for mobile heavy hitting platforms. Scimitars cause hurr durr DEM/FAW/Aux2batt spacebar spam and watch as you melt people past their shields no matter what buffs they have. Generally you see engineers using variations of FAWscorts, galor (or ships with similar loadout), or a cannon based cruisers with DEM if their not going full blown tank and nothing else.

    Science is the most flexible, temporal usually being considered the best for both factions, but feds having multiple science ships that work great, such as nebula or multi-mission explorer. Tholian carrier works to.

    Currently most people fight scimitars 1v1 by using something like a bug ship and hovering just outside their range during their buffs and running in to smack them during the short period between aux2batt spammed buffs. Generally Scimitars cloak once they realize you won't sit conveniently within their range for them to shoot at. Requires a ship with a build that can maintain a ridiculously fast speed continuously, relatively good hull, and can put out stupid amounts of burst damage, like the bugs, so OP ships vs OP ships.
  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hornet6 wrote: »
    Voice tone is absent from online typed messages so please accept that I am not being flippant. In regard to reply post #3, I know (or at least think I know) what works best for me. I ws wondering what others believe which is the best "ship platform" on which to build a ship that seems to work well for everyone, or at leaset the largest number of people.

    As to it, Is the scimitar so awesome that people cringe when it uncloaks in pvp? It has always seemed slow to me.

    The problem is with the Scimitar is everyone uses it.
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  • mrgrocer56mrgrocer56 Member Posts: 370 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    When all but a select few scimmy decloak I cringe (not out of fear) and then facepalm. The ship is just the tool, the thing to be feared is the PILOT wielding the tool, Daniel-san :)
  • worffan101worffan101 Member Posts: 9,518 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Under a good pilot, the Scimitar is god-mode.

    Other than that, Palisade is good, and I've heard good things about the Recluse. Nicor is popular, too. Avenger and Mogh aren't bad, either.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    I agree, best is whatever you can make work. Yes, there are a number of ships that seem to be used more than others, but that doesn't mean they're the best or have some drawback.

    Some examples:
    1- Wells with its triple cylinder - I myself find the console a bad one shot save since you can just follow the ship back visually. The best part, if you're using an aftershock doff and had recently used GW or Tyken's, once they finish their backstep, if it procs, a rift or a gravity well just pops up as soon as the rewind finishes.

    2- Romulans ships - That -40 power penalty makes them all more vulnerable to energy drains, specially builds that don't spec into power insulators or speed to get away. Smart pilots just use the subspace jump and cloak or romulan cloak to get away, but the slower ships like the Scimitar are vulnerable if they are bad captains.
  • hornet6hornet6 Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    (Assume respectful tone of voice) The general consensus seems to be leaning toward the scimitar at the moment. That being said, in a one-on-one private match, what ship "platform" could be built up to be most likely to beat the scimitar?
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  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    In the interests of providing an alternative viewpoint, allow me to present to you, the adapted Tal Shiar battle cruiser.

    Arguably the best science ship not called a science ship, tough, surprisingly flexible and has a cloak.

    That flexibility is why I suggest it in this context.

    Seems to me OP was asking, what is the best swiss army knife in game.
  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Who cares about pvp?? seriously? lol.. hahahahahaha,.
  • vivenneanthonyvivenneanthony Member Posts: 1,278 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hornet6 wrote: »
    We all know that skills, builds,doffs and boffs affect a ship's performance but my question is, which ship provides the "best" sort of "base" on which to build a pvp "master" ship, one feared by all! I have my own opinions but am interested in the opinions of others here, based on their experiences in the pvp arena. What is the best "foundation" ship or "ship platform" on which to build a ship for each faction, Fed, Kling and Rom. Your thoughts?

    I like the Hafeh on the Romulan side and the Patrol Escort or Tactical Escort on the Fed side for PVP. Of course, don't forge the Jem Hadar Dreadnought and Scimitar.

    I don't know about the KDF side of PVP.
  • lan451lan451 Member Posts: 3,386 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    hornet6 wrote: »
    (Assume respectful tone of voice) The general consensus seems to be leaning toward the scimitar at the moment. That being said, in a one-on-one private match, what ship "platform" could be built up to be most likely to beat the scimitar?

    Another scimitar.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Most amusing thread.
    10/10 would read again.
    You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
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  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashkrik23 wrote: »
    The best is whatever works for you.

    I'd like to clarify: The Player is what makes the ship "The Best" :cool:

    Something like a JHAS, Nicor, etc. being flown by a terrible player will still be a terrible ship in their hands :D
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