A question to the comunity: How loyal are you to STAR TREK ONLINE

cers001

I watched Gamespots reality check to-night and with the fourteen week turn over for STO I'd like to ask YOU how loyal are you to STAR TREK ONLINE?
Gamespot video link is here.

I would define the levels of loyalty as 3 level

1. Completely and utterly loyal won't hear a bad word uttered about the game or cryptic if you do i'll feed you to the Borg

2. Semi-Loyal; It provided me hours of enjoyment and it gave me a place to test my limits and surpass them but now cause of lowering of the diffulty and decisions my cryptic I' only stick around for new content but they're not getting any of my hard earned money

3. Not loyal at all; its a free to play game some nice stuff but as soon as something shiney comes along I'm gone

What are you?

Me,

I am a Semi-loyal to the game and a lifetime member; Why am I semi-loyal?

Cryptic now focouses on the fourteen week turn over which is understandable its their primary income source and they require money to live on but what gets me mad about it is they TRIBBLE over those that are LOYAL to them for instance, Veteran rewards;

By their name alone Veteran rewards are for those that have stuck by the game in order obtain them but cryptic decides to sell them with lifetime memberships,
I understand that lifetime subs cost a lot of cash which is a hard to get resorce more than ever and a $200 price tag has to come with some good items other than just you get everything and don't have pay us any more

But instead of alienating those that care for this game which you (cryptic) make why not create new stuff for the new lifers.

And all content now is dirt easy I have no challenge it does put me to sleep,
But that's my reasons what is yours?

rinkster

I'd class as semi-loyal. Perhaps not exactly as you have written, but I'm at a place where cryptic need to make up ground before i open my wallet again to them.

I suspect that many people, once they've played a game for a while, get familiar enough with a game to see past the first attraction and to crave a deeper experience.

STO, in my view, certainly has the capacity to do such a thing and, occasionally, succeeds.

However, it too often shoots itself in the foot, for my comfort.

latiasracer

1.5?


I don't really agree with everything they've done (Galaxy reboot sham, Undine box pathetic lore explanation, Kit modules not being finished properly)

But i still get hours of enjoyment and spend money regularly on the game..

decronia

Not at all. My "loyalty" to a game follows a simple policy:
Fun = stay and play
Stops being fun = goodbye

hypl

*gets up from the floor and dusts himself off*

Ehehehe, sorry. Almost broke my chair there. Loyalty? To a video game? LOL. I've never laughed so hard in my life. This type of nerdy nonsense is one of the leading causes of stupid internet drama. Why would I want to involve myself with such a thing?

drogyn1701

I reserve things like loyalty for people, not pixels.

I am loyal to the people at Cryptic and PWE I've had the good fortune to have personal interactions with like Taco, Smirk, Trendy, Kestrel and most recently Joe Jing. I have found them to be good people and deserving of my support.

As far as the game goes. I'm honest about what I like and what I don't like, mostly without feeling the need act like a SOB about either one. I do happen to like a lot of things in this game, but there are things I don't like and I don't mind saying so, such as the the continual waffling on Foundry development.

mightybobcnc

The friends I have made in my fleet are the only reason I stick around.

azurianstar

Hmm interesting, question.

I say that I'm loyal to STO (even after all the recent developments), where I play it religiously, and believe in it enough to suggest improvements. However, I'm not loyal enough to put money into it.

sunfrancks

I am in the middle.

aloishammer

hypl wrote: »

*gets up from the floor and dusts himself off*

Ehehehe, sorry. Almost broke my chair there. Loyalty? To a video game? LOL. I've never laughed so hard in my life. This type of nerdy nonsense is one of the leading causes of stupid internet drama. Why would I want to involve myself with such a thing?

Seconded. Ridiculous concept (like "loyalty" to a freaking game) is ridiculous.

cers001

aloishammer wrote: »

Seconded. Ridiculous concept (like "loyalty" to a freaking game) is ridiculous.

Its the best way I could describe what I was wanting to convey

groomofweird

I don't know where I stand in those three catagories.
I love STO, I play it every spare moment I have, spend money on no other games (gave up my xbox sub to buy more zen). I spend my time not playing either on the forums or in work chatting about sto with workmates. I even lie in bed sometimes making theoretical builds in my head to help me nod off.
Basically I am an STO fanboy.
However I do moan about things I don't like in the game (and there are a few) and although I've played for over a year now and don't see an end to my STO journey just yet I do see my time with the game as finite, either through real life change, end of game life, or eventual end of personal game appeal.
I'm always open to debate views on various aspects of the game with people if their views differ from mine so I probably don't class as "loyal" in those categories, but I do feel like a dedicated player if nothing else.

ashkrik23

Utterly loyal as in I play it a lot because I enjoy it.

mirrorchaos

any type of loyalty indicates there is emotion involved in the process, there is none of that for me, i dont feel anything for STO.

i only play it to waste time when i got a bit too much time to play around with, apart from that, i got other things i can do.

erei1

As long as I have fun, I'm playing. I support when I feel the need to, like a new shiny I really want, or when the Romulan came because I was expecting Romulans for years. But then I won't buy something "just to support Cryptic". That's something I might do for a good indie game, but STO is far from being near bankrupt, indie, or struggling to have enough money to continue. They need support as much as EA.

If I stop having fun, I'll stop playing.

There is no loyalty involved, I'm just a customer.

jbmonroe

hypl wrote: »

*gets up from the floor and dusts himself off*

Ehehehe, sorry. Almost broke my chair there. Loyalty? To a video game? LOL. I've never laughed so hard in my life. This type of nerdy nonsense is one of the leading causes of stupid internet drama. Why would I want to involve myself with such a thing?

I'm with you; corollary: never love anything that can't love you in return.

It's not a religion, an extended family, an employer, or a military organization. It's a game.

I don't know if it's as much a nerd question as it is a teenage question; this sort of thing rebounds in teenage psyches a lot.

thlaylierah

I believe the confusion caused in this thread is because there needs to be a separation between the game and it's current company:

STO = 2

Cryptic = 3

seseron

I'm not loyal, but I am invested. I bought the LTS on the first day it became available, even before the game was live. Went through beta with high hopes, only taking a hiatus to play Skyrim. Some hopes have been fulfilled, and a few remain outstanding. I have my moments of euphoria and enjoyment, and my moments of disappointment and sighing. But STO is my favorite MMO. I'm invested and in it for the long haul.

thecosmic1

I consider STO to be an average quality MMO, at best, but it is one of the few Sci-Fi based MMOs I consider interesting - as it is not heavily focused on PvP - and I would play it on and off even if it were not a Trek game. But I play a lot of different MMOs, anyway, and have not yet played Season 9 in STO yet.

exa12

so whats the option for only playing because its 'Trek and you dislike MMOs in general?

hypl

STO is probably the only MMO I play regularly and have an active interest in now. Not only because of the IP or the friends I've made, but because it will be the last online game I invest in. I've tried to play other games and have constantly had my hopes dashed because the developers decided to launch something that was broken or not fully realized (as they've advertised) at launch. And as time went on, it's made clear that they will never live up to what they originally promised and are in it solely to milk cash from gullible players. Boy, doesn't that sound familiar to anyone...? :P

Well, I guess the difference with STO is, I've learned to deal with it, and I still have fun playing. I was even silly enough to buy lifetime, over 3 years after the game launched. Oddly enough, no regrets.

As new online games start to pop up, new developers have entered the industry, extremely cocky, incompetent, and sometimes borderline insane. I'm tired of putting up with them. None of these games are producing a game world or universe, or have introduced unique game mechanics, that can hold my interest. It's the same old generic clone of any another game before it, but with a different paint job. A paint of job of lies and deceit that reeks of cash-grab.

atlantra

I'm slighty loyal to STO. To be clearly honest, when 'PSO II' comes to America I'll will be playing STO a lot less. 95% less. Ker'rat is the main reason I play STO, and one very super Elite player named "Yoda."

I'm a KDF fan. If KDF had a little more attention I'll be more loyal. The new rep system is a big punch to the face. The feeling of getting stronger after grinding is gone. BS. Negative 400 loyal points with that. Tetryon weapons don't even work, many bugs, and heavy GPU lag now...Yeah, so there you have it Cryptic. Not looking too good to me, but there's nothing better at the minute.

purplegamer

I thought for sure Legacy of Romulus would be the moment that fully won me over, but while it was a great expansion with lots of fun content, the lackluster delivery of the Romulan faction as a whole really turned me off; I would have much preferred a complete and independent faction as opposed to the allied half-faction we got.

For that reason, I'm a 2.5, I think. Loyal-ish, but if something comes along, I wouldn't hesitate devoting my time elsewhere.

bitemepwe

Still here since the beginning.

knuhteb5

Been here since 2010 and this is the mmo I've played the most. I love star trek and will continue to support this game despite my differences with the devs.

jer5488

I wish I was more loyal to the game. I bought a lifetime subscription during Beta, been playing since the start. Unfortunately the only thing keeping me here is the IP and the time I've already invested. Very poor community feedback from the developers and staff, they don't fix eighty percent of the things that are broken, and support for something only lasts until the next shiny is on sale.

gofasternow

atlantra wrote: »

I'm slighty loyal to STO. To be clearly honest, when 'PSO II' comes to America I'll will be playing STO a lot less. 95% less.

Excuse me while I laugh. You're going to be waiting for a long time on that one.

talonxv

Going with semi. It's not a bad game, but it has it's faults.

feiqa

In a three tier choice I cannot make them as it seems to be total love or loathing.

I spend my money here. Not the competition or any other video game. I play often and praise good work and point out the poor. I have seen a slow evolution and general improvement to the game that is what is keeping me.
When it breaks totally or shuts down is when I shall depart.

hasukurobi

I would be a number 2 in this instance. lol.

snoggymack22

drogyn1701 wrote: »

I reserve things like loyalty for people, not pixels.

Brand loyalty is a thing that exists.

One of the best moments in Madmen delves into that.

Brand loyalty in this MMO is quite strong actually. Because it cuts across Star Trek fans, who are fiercely loyal.