With the game due to be expanded in to the delta Quadrent i Believe The borg will Return it is unavoidable i hope they do and i hope they are improved and look better i know alot of people are tired of the borg and dont want anymore borg stuff which i understand but the borg and the delta quadrent go hand in hand
also do you think it would have been better to bring the borg into the game now rather then at the beginning of the game i think it makes scents as we are expanding in to the delta quadrent
Well, the Borg appear to be involved in the Voth back story, so it seems likely that we'll be running into them out there.
Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
Well, the Borg appear to be involved in the Voth back story, so it seems likely that we'll be running into them out there.
Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
Well, the Borg appear to be involved in the Voth back story, so it seems likely that we'll be running into them out there.
Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
With the game due to be expanded in to the delta Quadrent i Believe The borg will Return it is unavoidable i hope they do and i hope they are improved and look better i know alot of people are tired of the borg and dont want anymore borg stuff which i understand but the borg and the delta quadrent go hand in hand
also do you think it would have been better to bring the borg into the game now rather then at the beginning of the game i think it makes scents as we are expanding in to the delta quadrent
what do you think guys
Call me crazy, but the Borg are all about survival, and assimilating themselves into perfection.
If the Iconians pose a severe threat to the whole Milky Way, and have the Undine as servants, do you think the Borg could actually propose working with the other powers in the galaxy?(At least during said war with Iconians/servants, and probably with alterior motives in the backscene)
I'm not saying any faction would actually entertain the idea of working with the Borg, but seriously, do you think the Borg would choose complete annihilation over trying to actually work with some other group?
Well, the Borg appear to be involved in the Voth back story, so it seems likely that we'll be running into them out there.
Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
Face it, people. Wolf 359 is over. It's never happening again. The Borg are obsolete. They failed to adapt. They're not the big, scary unknown anymore.
Call me crazy, but the Borg are all about survival, and assimilating themselves into perfection.
If the Iconians pose a severe threat to the whole Milky Way, and have the Undine as servants, do you think the Borg could actually propose working with the other powers in the galaxy?(At least during said war with Iconians/servants, and probably with alterior motives in the backscene)
I'm not saying any faction would actually entertain the idea of working with the Borg, but seriously, do you think the Borg would choose complete annihilation over trying to actually work with some other group?
i think about this alot
and if you ever play the new update and saw how powerfull that female iconian is
that just poof some klingons sky high
i wonder what the borg wil do
if the iconians have so much power the borg cant do much atm til they adept
and with the undine as there ( slave ) the borg must face a very big enemy if they try to conquer both iconian and the undine
atm they are no match for them both
so i dunno what the borg wil do maby ask help from the FED ore klingons
they can listen to reason like they did ad the serie voyager
but you cant trust the borg ad all but stil
as i no the borg they wil always try to rule ea race
but it wil take time
am pretty sure the the inconians no how the borg are to even if the borg join them
and am sure the iconians no they gone get back stabed soon by the borg
as the borg no what the weak points are of the iconians the borg wil use that to conquer
them sooner ore later
so i rely dunno how the story ends but it wil be a great 1 i hope there so much to write about in this game
if you play this game you see they capture some undine to and make them in to drones
even if the undine was more powerfull then the borg
but in time the borg strikes hard back
and what wil the dominion do vs so 100 cubes ??
the cubes are 1 of the most powerfull ships
stil funny that the voyager just blow up some borg cubes
but in real terms you need a fleet to stop just 1 cube
so the dominion fleet are no match for the borg if they go all out
Do you have any idea how powerful the Dominion are?
The Alpha Quadrant only beat them because Section 31 bionuked the Founders. (And the Cardies turned on them.) And that was against a tiny fragment of their forces. Remember, they were cut off from the Gamma Quadrant.
The Jem'hadar would just swarm the Borg. By the time they adapted, it would be far too late. Even the Borg can't do anything against sheer firepower. No, really. Battle of Sector 001.
The Borg could never adapt to the Iconians. The Iconians are just too advanced, and too smart. They can't even adapt to normal technology properly anymore, because the Collective is a one-trick pony, and the Alpha Quadrant already figured them out.
You don't need a fleet to stop one cube. Not anymore. A couple ships can do it, because the Borg are now completely out of their league. They're used to blitzkrieging their opponents, adapting to their weaponry, and assimilating the entire faction before they can react. Their failure to do that to the Federation cost them dearly: the Federation has adapted, and now the Borg will never be able to defeat them.
Also, the Borg are too stupid to form a proper alliance. If they really knew what they were doing, they would follow Seven's suggestion to the Borg Queen -- just go up to whatever faction, and offer a peaceful exchange of technology. Trying to assimilate by force really makes no sense. Well, at least as soon as force stopped working.
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Call me crazy, but the Borg are all about survival, and assimilating themselves into perfection.
If the Iconians pose a severe threat to the whole Milky Way, and have the Undine as servants, do you think the Borg could actually propose working with the other powers in the galaxy?(At least during said war with Iconians/servants, and probably with alterior motives in the backscene)
I'm not saying any faction would actually entertain the idea of working with the Borg, but seriously, do you think the Borg would choose complete annihilation over trying to actually work with some other group?
We've seen how the Borg handle alliances. As soon as you've outlived your usefullness they stab you in the back and try to assimilate you to integrate the advantage you provided in the alliance with them. They tried to take Voyager after they made weapons that were more effective against the Undine and saw the results. Why continue with the alliance if they can just assimilate the advantage and take it for their own?
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
I suggested something like that for a Fleet Action long ago. But instead of something similar to the Crystaline Entity, the Devs gives us something more of a unique encounter.
For an example, a Crystaline Entity-style combat but the Adapted Borg Cube has weak spots that only certain ships with certain abilities would locate. Like Science ships using Sensor Analysis would detect a weak spot that players have to attack within a very short time frame. And there is further uniqueness with the Cube not being a single NPC, but has components like armor plating with it's own HPs that you have to attack in order to get to normal weak spots, which is needed to ultimately defeat the Cube.
As for Cube abilities, maybe something new like the ability to temporarily assimilate a player ship and use it to attack other players, but it's not easily removable like the Borg Boarding Parties that are removed by Tactical Team. But could be two methods, like one is beam style that is quickly thwarted, or one that a player ship is dragged inside the Cube and rapidly assimilated. However, players could be desperate enough to self-destruct and temporarily cause damage (so other players can't get assimilated for a few minutes).
Yeah ... , sadly not happening ... , at least not in the near future .
However , there is always Borg Band-Aid Time which may be on Cryptic's long-term calendar , which can be experienced more fully here .
On the bright side though, it has been brought to his attention directly, and he said he 'wouldn't be opposed to it'. That's more than most player proposed ideas get.
I suggested something like that for a Fleet Action long ago. But instead of something similar to the Crystaline Entity, the Devs gives us something more of a unique encounter.
For an example, a Crystaline Entity-style combat but the Adapted Borg Cube has weak spots that only certain ships with certain abilities would locate. Like Science ships using Sensor Analysis would detect a weak spot that players have to attack within a very short time frame. And there is further uniqueness with the Cube not being a single NPC, but has components like armor plating with it's own HPs that you have to attack in order to get to normal weak spots, which is needed to ultimately defeat the Cube.
As for Cube abilities, maybe something new like the ability to temporarily assimilate a player ship and use it to attack other players, but it's not easily removable like the Borg Boarding Parties that are removed by Tactical Team. But could be two methods, like one is beam style that is quickly thwarted, or one that a player ship is dragged inside the Cube and rapidly assimilated. However, players could be desperate enough to self-destruct and temporarily cause damage (so other players can't get assimilated for a few minutes).
Sounds good to me. The Cube would need a decent sized bag of tricks to avoid just being a really big target like every other Cube in game.
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Personally, I'm hoping they'll manage to assimilate some Voth technology and get an upgrade; possibly resulting in a Crystalline Entity style fleet action versus a single super cube (for that Wolf 359 experience :cool:).
Yes!
I'd love something like this
That would be epic TRIBBLE!
Call me crazy, but the Borg are all about survival, and assimilating themselves into perfection.
If the Iconians pose a severe threat to the whole Milky Way, and have the Undine as servants, do you think the Borg could actually propose working with the other powers in the galaxy?(At least during said war with Iconians/servants, and probably with alterior motives in the backscene)
I'm not saying any faction would actually entertain the idea of working with the Borg, but seriously, do you think the Borg would choose complete annihilation over trying to actually work with some other group?
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
What if they assimilate the Crystalline Entity?
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
You'd get a giant wind chime trying to assimilate whole worlds.......it'd be like being attacked by huge giant space hippies.
Yeah ... , sadly not happening ... , at least not in the near future .
However , there is always Borg Band-Aid Time which may be on Cryptic's long-term calendar , which can be experienced more fully here .
Return? The Borg never left. They're everywhere in game right now.
Face it, people. Wolf 359 is over. It's never happening again. The Borg are obsolete. They failed to adapt. They're not the big, scary unknown anymore.
i think about this alot
and if you ever play the new update and saw how powerfull that female iconian is
that just poof some klingons sky high
i wonder what the borg wil do
if the iconians have so much power the borg cant do much atm til they adept
and with the undine as there ( slave ) the borg must face a very big enemy if they try to conquer both iconian and the undine
atm they are no match for them both
so i dunno what the borg wil do maby ask help from the FED ore klingons
they can listen to reason like they did ad the serie voyager
but you cant trust the borg ad all but stil
as i no the borg they wil always try to rule ea race
but it wil take time
am pretty sure the the inconians no how the borg are to even if the borg join them
and am sure the iconians no they gone get back stabed soon by the borg
as the borg no what the weak points are of the iconians the borg wil use that to conquer
them sooner ore later
so i rely dunno how the story ends but it wil be a great 1 i hope there so much to write about in this game
sorry for my bad english
The Borg are closer to equal to the Dominion, although even they could probably take on the Collective without much trouble.
but the borg are no to adept very fast
if you play this game you see they capture some undine to and make them in to drones
even if the undine was more powerfull then the borg
but in time the borg strikes hard back
and what wil the dominion do vs so 100 cubes ??
the cubes are 1 of the most powerfull ships
stil funny that the voyager just blow up some borg cubes
but in real terms you need a fleet to stop just 1 cube
so the dominion fleet are no match for the borg if they go all out
Do you have any idea how powerful the Dominion are?
The Alpha Quadrant only beat them because Section 31 bionuked the Founders. (And the Cardies turned on them.) And that was against a tiny fragment of their forces. Remember, they were cut off from the Gamma Quadrant.
The Jem'hadar would just swarm the Borg. By the time they adapted, it would be far too late. Even the Borg can't do anything against sheer firepower. No, really. Battle of Sector 001.
The Borg could never adapt to the Iconians. The Iconians are just too advanced, and too smart. They can't even adapt to normal technology properly anymore, because the Collective is a one-trick pony, and the Alpha Quadrant already figured them out.
You don't need a fleet to stop one cube. Not anymore. A couple ships can do it, because the Borg are now completely out of their league. They're used to blitzkrieging their opponents, adapting to their weaponry, and assimilating the entire faction before they can react. Their failure to do that to the Federation cost them dearly: the Federation has adapted, and now the Borg will never be able to defeat them.
Also, the Borg are too stupid to form a proper alliance. If they really knew what they were doing, they would follow Seven's suggestion to the Borg Queen -- just go up to whatever faction, and offer a peaceful exchange of technology. Trying to assimilate by force really makes no sense. Well, at least as soon as force stopped working.
We've seen how the Borg handle alliances. As soon as you've outlived your usefullness they stab you in the back and try to assimilate you to integrate the advantage you provided in the alliance with them. They tried to take Voyager after they made weapons that were more effective against the Undine and saw the results. Why continue with the alliance if they can just assimilate the advantage and take it for their own?
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Borg Lockboxes, woot! :P
I suggested something like that for a Fleet Action long ago. But instead of something similar to the Crystaline Entity, the Devs gives us something more of a unique encounter.
For an example, a Crystaline Entity-style combat but the Adapted Borg Cube has weak spots that only certain ships with certain abilities would locate. Like Science ships using Sensor Analysis would detect a weak spot that players have to attack within a very short time frame. And there is further uniqueness with the Cube not being a single NPC, but has components like armor plating with it's own HPs that you have to attack in order to get to normal weak spots, which is needed to ultimately defeat the Cube.
As for Cube abilities, maybe something new like the ability to temporarily assimilate a player ship and use it to attack other players, but it's not easily removable like the Borg Boarding Parties that are removed by Tactical Team. But could be two methods, like one is beam style that is quickly thwarted, or one that a player ship is dragged inside the Cube and rapidly assimilated. However, players could be desperate enough to self-destruct and temporarily cause damage (so other players can't get assimilated for a few minutes).
On the bright side though, it has been brought to his attention directly, and he said he 'wouldn't be opposed to it'. That's more than most player proposed ideas get.
Sounds good to me. The Cube would need a decent sized bag of tricks to avoid just being a really big target like every other Cube in game.