Just realized this. There was no Deferi Ambassador in Surface Tension. That, or I totally missed him. Anyway, at least no dialogue.
How would the Deferi react to the peace? They did not ally with either the Fed or the KDF to not upset balance, but with these factions now in an alliance, allying with both of them would only strengthen balance in my opinion.
Would love to see them return. After all, the Undine threaten everyone, including the Deferi.
Speaking of being threatened, when are we going to see the completion of the Defera Invasion Zone? I'm not thinking of changing the thing to battleground style, just keep it in its current form. We could however think of the following:
- The Comms tower is still locked. I would love to see a new mission there.
- Change the mark reward completely. Instead of giving a large amount of fleet credits and a small amount of Omega marks, give a Choice of Marks box. Something of 50 for a hard mission seems fair. (less than now, but then, those hard missions are not extremely hard)
- Add a daily mission that pays out a Borg Neural Processor for completing a Hard mission. Or all four. Whatever you feel is fair. But since there are people out there that boycot STF's (personally I don't understand them, but whatever), lets give these people the chance to earn their BNP on Defera.
- Fix. The. Darned. Bugs. Especially looking at the City: Knowledge is Key mission. That autocomplete takes ages and is just boring. I don't mind spending ages for a reward, but I want to do something else than dropping disco balls over alcoved Drones. Also looking at the failure bug in the Power Plant that forces an instance-switch to complete it.
- Maybe add a second temple? Not exactly the same designed, but right now only one team at a time can run that mission. To have two identical temples seems weird, but to have a second one, as a small form of variation, would not hurt anyone I think.
Ofcourse, updating some of the artwork down there would not be a misser in my opinion. The places looks fun, but the visuals don't stand up to the Voth zone, or new ESD. I'm not talking about a total revamp of the map, just some simple updates to a Deferi house, stuff like that. Unless it would force the lesser computers off the map (I'm playing on a fairly new machine, but my previous computer was one that experienced the Black Death after LoR hit the game).
Ow, and one more thing. Can we add a small area to the camp for players that are "Looking for Team"? Say, a dedicated tent, that has giant letters above it saying "Fed players looking for team". Or more serious: "Starfleet Team preparations" and "Klingon Defense Force Team preparations".
Just realized this. There was no Deferi Ambassador in Surface Tension. That, or I totally missed him. Anyway, at least no dialogue.
Deferi is now Borg.
That's the only reason I can think of for them being missing, they were all assimilated.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
That's the only reason I can think of for them being missing, they were all assimilated.
We are the Borg. You will lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological balance to our own. Your balance will adapt to be equal to ours. Resistance is futile.
Meh, I fought the Borg back often enough to save at least 23 Deferi. So they still exist. Maybe they can hook up with species 100somethingsomething and declare all-out war on the Borg.
The deferi are not a major power. Remember there are thousands of species out there. They don't all show up to every conference. The only reason they came to the Borg conference is their planet is taking the brunt of an ongoing assault and their planet is a sector away from DS9.
They live nowhere near the gateway to the sphere and are not very important to matters going on.
The Deferi have absolutely no influence outside of their own sapce, which is also their own decision to be that way. They don't want to be involved in anything thats not happing right in front of their doors and in their garden.
And about the the whole Borg-invasion storyline:
I could be wrong but I think there ist some common thread trough all the Borg-STFs and the ground-zone on Defera which kinda resolves the whole Borg-invasion stuff.
Not 100% sure about that though because all I did was blasting stuff and I ingored most of the text :P
I personally would like to see more of the Deferi, for the simple reason that they are a original Cryptic creation that does not suck and could be used to explore more possiblities instead of gravely misrepresenting/butchering stuff we know from the actual shows. The Risian Cruiseliner would in my opinion be, from it's base shape, a great Deferi vessel. But meh, Cryptic forgot about the Deferi probably already
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"A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
"That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
I too saw a Deferi at the summit. Just a background NPC.
So did I. They didn't say much, but they weren't the only ones. The Cardassian representative also never got his say, and the Ferengi representative only got his two cents in by speaking out of turn.
For practical purposes, that summit never happened - opening speeches weren't even finished when the Undine showed up, none of the negotiations had actually started yet.
I would love to see the Deferi play a part in the upcoming Iconian war story arc. The Deferi have access to ancient technologies that are probably as old as the Iconians.
That alien tech might not have a military focus, but I can easily imagine the Deferi discover some ancient tech that would help the Alpha/Beta quadrant allies "trap" the Iconions in their alternate dimension so they can't threaten us anymore. The Iconians learn about it and try to destroy the Deferi and the rest of the species in the game have to work together to preserve that tech so we can use it against the Iconians.
In the immortal words of Captain Sisko: "It may not be what you believe, but that doesn't make it wrong."
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Never mind Defera - what about Task Group Omega (namely the USS Victory etc).
They fester at that transwarp gate doing.... nothing. And despite 'recent' Borg activity, they've responded to - well, nothing. So what they hell are they for?!
They really should give that zone a touch up, maybe add in the odd Probe/Sphere wave spawn like in allied dyson space? That'd at least make it look like those ships are holding the line against something.
But then again, why haven't we built a cross-faction or multiple individual faction starbases out there to act as FoBs? Like the idea of ships being hubs in space is cool and whatnot, but eventually they and their crews are going to need a dock.
Also, is the battlegroup and TFO protected by any kind of security clearance, or does the whole Fed/Empire/Republic know they're out there working together keeping the borg off our doorstep?
Never mind Defera - what about Task Group Omega (namely the USS Victory etc).
They fester at that transwarp gate doing.... nothing. And despite 'recent' Borg activity, they've responded to - well, nothing. So what they hell are they for?!
That is one of the other things I am crusading against, but not in this thread.
Anyway, so far no replies to my Invasion Zone ideas. Anybody can give any feedback on those?
Okay no but seriously, I guess this isn't really a "teh borg iz teh best enemi cuz piccard" thread. The Deferi probably should be revisited, although maybe replace the Invasion Zone with a more relevant attacking force? The Elachi, perhaps? We haven't really seen much of them, and we do know they like to attack planets in much the same way Deferi is being invaded.
Just to clarify, I don't mean retcon the Borg invasion out of existence, just move on from it. I mean the Borg resurgence happened like a year ago at this point.
Okay no but seriously, I guess this isn't really a "teh borg iz teh best enemi cuz piccard" thread. The Deferi probably should be revisited, although maybe replace the Invasion Zone with a more relevant attacking force? The Elachi, perhaps? We haven't really seen much of them, and we do know they like to attack planets in much the same way Deferi is being invaded.
Just to clarify, I don't mean retcon the Borg invasion out of existence, just move on from it. I mean the Borg resurgence happened like a year ago at this point.
Don't worry, its not a teh borg iz the best enemi cuz piccard thread. By my logic, it would be teh dumonion iz the best enemi cuz sikso.
But I am not one of the Borg-hating people around here. They need some rework in my opinion, but definitely should not be lessened.
Which is why I am not proposing to just completely change the Invasion Zone. It is fine in its current form, if we apply the fixes I put in my OP.
Every other reputation has a dedicated zone to get the neccesary stuff for people that tend to avoid queues. Omega is the only one leeping behind, since the mark payout is not what it is supposed to be, and since there is no way of acquiring neural processors. And the map is not yet finished and stuff like that.
And yes, the Borg resurgence happened like a year ago. But does that mean the thread is less? Yes, we killed a Queen and stopped a Borg invasion in Fluidic space, while we are bottling them up in Gamma Orionis. But we still have not heard what happened to Vega colony after its assimilation. And we know they are busy massacring the Voth.
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Deferi is now Borg.
That's the only reason I can think of for them being missing, they were all assimilated.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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We are the Borg. You will lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological balance to our own. Your balance will adapt to be equal to ours. Resistance is futile.
Meh, I fought the Borg back often enough to save at least 23 Deferi. So they still exist. Maybe they can hook up with species 100somethingsomething and declare all-out war on the Borg.
Still curious for the actual reasons xD
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They live nowhere near the gateway to the sphere and are not very important to matters going on.
And about the the whole Borg-invasion storyline:
I could be wrong but I think there ist some common thread trough all the Borg-STFs and the ground-zone on Defera which kinda resolves the whole Borg-invasion stuff.
Not 100% sure about that though because all I did was blasting stuff and I ingored most of the text :P
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So did I. They didn't say much, but they weren't the only ones. The Cardassian representative also never got his say, and the Ferengi representative only got his two cents in by speaking out of turn.
For practical purposes, that summit never happened - opening speeches weren't even finished when the Undine showed up, none of the negotiations had actually started yet.
That alien tech might not have a military focus, but I can easily imagine the Deferi discover some ancient tech that would help the Alpha/Beta quadrant allies "trap" the Iconions in their alternate dimension so they can't threaten us anymore. The Iconians learn about it and try to destroy the Deferi and the rest of the species in the game have to work together to preserve that tech so we can use it against the Iconians.
Don't believe the lies in this forum. I am NOT an ARC user. I play STO on Steam or not at all.
They really should give that zone a touch up, maybe add in the odd Probe/Sphere wave spawn like in allied dyson space? That'd at least make it look like those ships are holding the line against something.
But then again, why haven't we built a cross-faction or multiple individual faction starbases out there to act as FoBs? Like the idea of ships being hubs in space is cool and whatnot, but eventually they and their crews are going to need a dock.
Also, is the battlegroup and TFO protected by any kind of security clearance, or does the whole Fed/Empire/Republic know they're out there working together keeping the borg off our doorstep?
That is one of the other things I am crusading against, but not in this thread.
Anyway, so far no replies to my Invasion Zone ideas. Anybody can give any feedback on those?
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Okay no but seriously, I guess this isn't really a "teh borg iz teh best enemi cuz piccard" thread. The Deferi probably should be revisited, although maybe replace the Invasion Zone with a more relevant attacking force? The Elachi, perhaps? We haven't really seen much of them, and we do know they like to attack planets in much the same way Deferi is being invaded.
Just to clarify, I don't mean retcon the Borg invasion out of existence, just move on from it. I mean the Borg resurgence happened like a year ago at this point.
Don't worry, its not a teh borg iz the best enemi cuz piccard thread. By my logic, it would be teh dumonion iz the best enemi cuz sikso.
But I am not one of the Borg-hating people around here. They need some rework in my opinion, but definitely should not be lessened.
Which is why I am not proposing to just completely change the Invasion Zone. It is fine in its current form, if we apply the fixes I put in my OP.
Every other reputation has a dedicated zone to get the neccesary stuff for people that tend to avoid queues. Omega is the only one leeping behind, since the mark payout is not what it is supposed to be, and since there is no way of acquiring neural processors. And the map is not yet finished and stuff like that.
And yes, the Borg resurgence happened like a year ago. But does that mean the thread is less? Yes, we killed a Queen and stopped a Borg invasion in Fluidic space, while we are bottling them up in Gamma Orionis. But we still have not heard what happened to Vega colony after its assimilation. And we know they are busy massacring the Voth.
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