we've seen it before with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar: introducing, the Avenger class, first cruiser with 5/3 weapon layout, then came the Mogh with the same layout, and of course the Romulans have had the Scimitar for awhile, so it seems to me, with this new introduction of a rear welded dual cannon, we can expect KDF/RRF versions too.
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Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
I seem to remember a certain interview where a certain DEV told us the Fleet Guramba would come out the same time the Fleet Dreadnough Cruiser would come out.:rolleyes:
Probably for the KDF as a new raptor. Up the hull, drop the shield mod, add a cloak. I imagine creating the model is the actual time/cost-consuming process. Though maybe if its just a tweak of existing models, easier to crank out? Plus I'd love something to throw the T3 or T4 C-store raptor skins on, so hopefully there rather than another Qin.
Not so sure about Roms though, since the last thing they need is another yet another fast-tac ship. Though the Fed lineup wasn't exactly lacking in escorts and this thing was a surprise, so not sure why it exists in the first place, but they do that sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it being a Rom thing though, just Fed/KDF.
Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
I seem to remember a certain interview where a certain DEV told us the Fleet Guramba would come out the same time the Fleet Dreadnough Cruiser would come out.:rolleyes:
well, that's not the point. the point is that they introduce a brand new escort concept, same as they did with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar, so i'd expect them to bring us something for the rest of the factions
well, that's not the point. the point is that they introduce a brand new escort concept, same as they did with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar, so i'd expect them to bring us something for the rest of the factions
Sorry if the point I tried to make didn't come through...TBH I'm very tired so it's time for bed.
So here's my second try:
They can't even be bothered to add stuff they said they would add and that is "ready" from a ship modelling point of view. So how likely is it they sit down and design new art assets for stuff they never said the would add?
Sorry if the point I tried to make didn't come through...TBH I'm very tired so it's time for bed.
So here's my second try:
They can't even be bothered to add stuff they said they would add and that is "ready" from a ship modelling point of view. So how likely is it they sit down and design new art assets for stuff they never said the would add?
There won't be a KDF version, because the Devs don't like the KDF. Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one. Though I don't see why the Roms need it, they have this niche effectively filled in terms of ships.
Raiders, welcome to even further behind the power creep! You actually thought that flanking bonus would do something? :rolleyes:
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There won't be a KDF version, because the Devs don't like the KDF. Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one. Though I don't see why the Roms need it, they have this niche effectively filled in terms of ships.
Raiders, welcome to even further behind the power creep! You actually thought that flanking bonus would do something? :rolleyes:
To be honest, as a raider captain, i dont care. It would be cool if they brought some KDF raptors up, but i play raiders. A Fleet Hegh'ta? I would like that, but that isnt happening. And so many in Starfleet still see BoPs as OP. So whatever.
The new fedscorts are interesting. I guess Lt Com Uni slots are the new Hangars!
But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.
And that was, of course, the result of a long discussion and designing process on Cryptic's side.
It's totally not like they'd just copied the stats and didn't bother with balancing out a singularity core and singularity powers on a time ship. :rolleyes:
Gotta love the unique bridges of the Romulan and Klingon time ships, too. The color really sets them apart from the Fed bridge. I barely see any resemblance.
It's almost like magic!
What I want is a Big Bad TRIBBLE Ka'vort that can go nose to nose with a scimitar
The special weapon would be the disruptor ball as seen in the klingon civil war fired from Galrown's Vorcha
That's my pet pea
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But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.
Thank the Elements. Sorry, but I'm not overly fond of singularity driven science ships. No way to have half-way decent power levels in weapons, shields and aux.
And that was, of course, the result of a long discussion and designing process on Cryptic's side.
It's totally not like they'd just copied the stats and didn't bother with balancing out a singularity core and singularity powers on a time ship. :rolleyes:
Nope, it was just an incredibly stupid decision they now will have to repeat for all new factions. When the lockbox came out they handed out identical ships to both faction, probably to evade complaints that one would be more powerful than the other. And now they can't change it anymore without people complaining that their Klingon ship suddenly loses hull for a cloak. And they can't make new versions for new factions without the Klingon players complaining about being screwed over. So yep, the temporal science vessel was one incredibly short-sighted, stupid design decision that will haunt Cryptic for as long as STO exists.
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They just announced the fed one... I think they MIGHT have kdf and rom ships "in stock" and will announce them soon. Just not together.
Hope dies last ...
Although, given that this is a refit... May be not a romulan one.
I really really hope for a heavy raider refit of some kind (sorry don't give a TRIBBLE about poor mans escorts = raptors).
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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I find it so very amusingly full of irony that KDF and Rom fans cry to preserve the 'uniqueness' of their factions whenever talk of things like cloaking come up amongst Feds. Yet the moment Starfleet get something unique to them in some time, they clamor and demand it for themselves as well.
KDF won't see jack, we can't even get a fleet guramba let alone a entire new ship.
This is why I no longer pay money for the game.
LOL so lazy they can't even copy the same ship and add an extra console slot to it. Yes, that's how fleet ships are made, Cryptic. Did you guys forget how to do it? Want me to do it for you?
TRIBBLE like that makes me wonder. You guys aren't that busy. Copy, paste, add console slot/HP/shield = Fleet version. Do it to all KDF ships with no Fleet version. That easy...
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one.
You are kidding right ? Except for the OP scimitard (which is op mostly because of a2b, which is not a rom build), and the SRO, the Romulan are clearly the forgotten ones.
Do we have an academy ? Do we have a security officer ? Do we have a unified palette when it comes to costume ? Do we have a Romulan borg armor set ? Do we have a starbase ? Do we have a fleet uniform we can wear (and not our BOFF) ? A fleet uniform that is unique and faction related. Do we have fleet plasma weapons equivalent to the disruptor and phaser ones ? Do we have cruiser command ?
I can go on and on. Meanwhile, the Klingons have everything I just listed. Sure it's not perfect, but it's better.
So, please stop saying we are listened by cryptic. It was true as long as they were selling legacy pack. Now, we are the klingons from before LoR. A few things are OP/unique and everyone jump on it (like the klingon cloak, the carriers, raiders... in the past), and quickly forget the price to pay.
Thank the Elements. Sorry, but I'm not overly fond of singularity driven science ships. No way to have half-way decent power levels in weapons, shields and aux.
I agree. In my eyes, the singularity core is a penalty, and the AM core is a good thing.
I never really miss the plasma shockwave.
I think there will probably be. But they will not roll out too many at once for marketing reasons - fewer ships allows them to keep each ship in the focus of the potential audience. At least as long as they can't put them in a big ship pack like the dyson ships.
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Guys I am positive that Crypitc would love to put in new KDF ships but they have jump through a series of legal hopes with CBS because they own the rights so they have to first check to see if it will work however they have to get permission from CBS.
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Guys I am positive that Crypitc would love to put in new KDF ships but they have jump through a series of legal hopes with CBS because they own the rights so they have to first check to see if it will work however they have to get permission from CBS.
Funny thing is that one of the ship designers once told us that with the Klingons (back then the Romulans were no playable but I'd guess it's the same with them) it's a lot easier to get permission to do stuff. CBS has less guidelines to follow than for the Federation.
So I'm not sure how much water that argument holds.:)
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Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
I seem to remember a certain interview where a certain DEV told us the Fleet Guramba would come out the same time the Fleet Dreadnough Cruiser would come out.:rolleyes:
it's just a theory.... A GAME THEORY! (i should stop watching that YT show)
Not so sure about Roms though, since the last thing they need is another yet another fast-tac ship. Though the Fed lineup wasn't exactly lacking in escorts and this thing was a surprise, so not sure why it exists in the first place, but they do that sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it being a Rom thing though, just Fed/KDF.
well, that's not the point. the point is that they introduce a brand new escort concept, same as they did with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar, so i'd expect them to bring us something for the rest of the factions
Sorry if the point I tried to make didn't come through...TBH I'm very tired so it's time for bed.
So here's my second try:
They can't even be bothered to add stuff they said they would add and that is "ready" from a ship modelling point of view. So how likely is it they sit down and design new art assets for stuff they never said the would add?
The first Escort with dual Lt.Cmdr slots? I suspect there will be more ships like that, for all factions and ship classes.
The lockbox ships were just the beginning.
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Raiders, welcome to even further behind the power creep! You actually thought that flanking bonus would do something? :rolleyes:
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
To be honest, as a raider captain, i dont care. It would be cool if they brought some KDF raptors up, but i play raiders. A Fleet Hegh'ta? I would like that, but that isnt happening. And so many in Starfleet still see BoPs as OP. So whatever.
The new fedscorts are interesting. I guess Lt Com Uni slots are the new Hangars!
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You already have a romulan version of the Wells, the R'Mor, exact same stats from the same lockbox.
But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.
And that was, of course, the result of a long discussion and designing process on Cryptic's side.
It's totally not like they'd just copied the stats and didn't bother with balancing out a singularity core and singularity powers on a time ship. :rolleyes:
Gotta love the unique bridges of the Romulan and Klingon time ships, too. The color really sets them apart from the Fed bridge. I barely see any resemblance.
It's almost like magic!
or Raiders either
The Mogh ...love it
What I want is a Big Bad TRIBBLE Ka'vort that can go nose to nose with a scimitar
The special weapon would be the disruptor ball as seen in the klingon civil war fired from Galrown's Vorcha
That's my pet pea
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Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
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Their track record are poor on that however.
Believe me, I want the K'vort in the game more than anyone. But I want it in at it's real size.
http://hydra-images.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/7/77/KDF_Size_Chart.PNG
I also want the wings to be fixed in the "flying" position.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
And then perhaps the same treatment (minus Sing core) for the Korath and Krenn?
Thank the Elements. Sorry, but I'm not overly fond of singularity driven science ships. No way to have half-way decent power levels in weapons, shields and aux.
Nope, it was just an incredibly stupid decision they now will have to repeat for all new factions. When the lockbox came out they handed out identical ships to both faction, probably to evade complaints that one would be more powerful than the other. And now they can't change it anymore without people complaining that their Klingon ship suddenly loses hull for a cloak. And they can't make new versions for new factions without the Klingon players complaining about being screwed over. So yep, the temporal science vessel was one incredibly short-sighted, stupid design decision that will haunt Cryptic for as long as STO exists.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Hope dies last ...
Although, given that this is a refit... May be not a romulan one.
I really really hope for a heavy raider refit of some kind (sorry don't give a TRIBBLE about poor mans escorts = raptors).
:P
Don't be silly.
K'Vort Class dammit cryptic.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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LOL so lazy they can't even copy the same ship and add an extra console slot to it. Yes, that's how fleet ships are made, Cryptic. Did you guys forget how to do it? Want me to do it for you?
TRIBBLE like that makes me wonder. You guys aren't that busy. Copy, paste, add console slot/HP/shield = Fleet version. Do it to all KDF ships with no Fleet version. That easy...
Do we have an academy ? Do we have a security officer ? Do we have a unified palette when it comes to costume ? Do we have a Romulan borg armor set ? Do we have a starbase ? Do we have a fleet uniform we can wear (and not our BOFF) ? A fleet uniform that is unique and faction related. Do we have fleet plasma weapons equivalent to the disruptor and phaser ones ? Do we have cruiser command ?
I can go on and on. Meanwhile, the Klingons have everything I just listed. Sure it's not perfect, but it's better.
So, please stop saying we are listened by cryptic. It was true as long as they were selling legacy pack. Now, we are the klingons from before LoR. A few things are OP/unique and everyone jump on it (like the klingon cloak, the carriers, raiders... in the past), and quickly forget the price to pay.
I agree. In my eyes, the singularity core is a penalty, and the AM core is a good thing.
I never really miss the plasma shockwave.
Funny thing is that one of the ship designers once told us that with the Klingons (back then the Romulans were no playable but I'd guess it's the same with them) it's a lot easier to get permission to do stuff. CBS has less guidelines to follow than for the Federation.
So I'm not sure how much water that argument holds.:)