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so, new kdf and romulan ships too?

imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 829 Arc User
we've seen it before with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar: introducing, the Avenger class, first cruiser with 5/3 weapon layout, then came the Mogh with the same layout, and of course the Romulans have had the Scimitar for awhile, so it seems to me, with this new introduction of a rear welded dual cannon, we can expect KDF/RRF versions too.
opinions?
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  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    imadude3 wrote: »
    with this new introduction of a rear welded dual cannon, we can expect KDF/RRF versions too.
    opinions?

    Where did you see it?
  • nyasayanyasaya Member Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I just want a new sci ship for my romulan, a romulan ship. A nimble ship like the Wells.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    imadude3 wrote: »
    we can expect KDF/RRF versions too.
    opinions?

    Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
    I seem to remember a certain interview where a certain DEV told us the Fleet Guramba would come out the same time the Fleet Dreadnough Cruiser would come out.:rolleyes:
  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jestersage wrote: »
    Where did you see it?

    it's just a theory.... A GAME THEORY! (i should stop watching that YT show)
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  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Probably for the KDF as a new raptor. Up the hull, drop the shield mod, add a cloak. I imagine creating the model is the actual time/cost-consuming process. Though maybe if its just a tweak of existing models, easier to crank out? Plus I'd love something to throw the T3 or T4 C-store raptor skins on, so hopefully there rather than another Qin.

    Not so sure about Roms though, since the last thing they need is another yet another fast-tac ship. Though the Fed lineup wasn't exactly lacking in escorts and this thing was a surprise, so not sure why it exists in the first place, but they do that sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it being a Rom thing though, just Fed/KDF.
  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
    I seem to remember a certain interview where a certain DEV told us the Fleet Guramba would come out the same time the Fleet Dreadnough Cruiser would come out.:rolleyes:

    well, that's not the point. the point is that they introduce a brand new escort concept, same as they did with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar, so i'd expect them to bring us something for the rest of the factions
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    imadude3 wrote: »
    well, that's not the point. the point is that they introduce a brand new escort concept, same as they did with the Avenger/Mogh/Scimitar, so i'd expect them to bring us something for the rest of the factions

    Sorry if the point I tried to make didn't come through...TBH I'm very tired so it's time for bed.
    So here's my second try:
    They can't even be bothered to add stuff they said they would add and that is "ready" from a ship modelling point of view. So how likely is it they sit down and design new art assets for stuff they never said the would add?
  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It looks a bit to me as if we are getting a new wave of Tier 5.75 (or Tier 5.6) ships.

    The first Escort with dual Lt.Cmdr slots? I suspect there will be more ships like that, for all factions and ship classes.

    The lockbox ships were just the beginning.
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  • imadude3imadude3 Member Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    misterde3 wrote: »
    Sorry if the point I tried to make didn't come through...TBH I'm very tired so it's time for bed.
    So here's my second try:
    They can't even be bothered to add stuff they said they would add and that is "ready" from a ship modelling point of view. So how likely is it they sit down and design new art assets for stuff they never said the would add?

    AAAaaaaahhh, gotcha
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    There won't be a KDF version, because the Devs don't like the KDF. Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one. Though I don't see why the Roms need it, they have this niche effectively filled in terms of ships.

    Raiders, welcome to even further behind the power creep! You actually thought that flanking bonus would do something? :rolleyes:
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  • catliketypingcatliketyping Member Posts: 611
    edited May 2014
    There won't be a KDF version, because the Devs don't like the KDF. Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one. Though I don't see why the Roms need it, they have this niche effectively filled in terms of ships.

    Raiders, welcome to even further behind the power creep! You actually thought that flanking bonus would do something? :rolleyes:

    To be honest, as a raider captain, i dont care. It would be cool if they brought some KDF raptors up, but i play raiders. A Fleet Hegh'ta? I would like that, but that isnt happening. And so many in Starfleet still see BoPs as OP. So whatever.

    The new fedscorts are interesting. I guess Lt Com Uni slots are the new Hangars!
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    nyasaya wrote: »
    I just want a new sci ship for my romulan, a romulan ship. A nimble ship like the Wells.

    You already have a romulan version of the Wells, the R'Mor, exact same stats from the same lockbox.
  • rinksterrinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You already have a romulan version of the Wells, the R'Mor, exact same stats from the same lockbox.

    But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.
  • xiaoping88xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.

    And that was, of course, the result of a long discussion and designing process on Cryptic's side.
    It's totally not like they'd just copied the stats and didn't bother with balancing out a singularity core and singularity powers on a time ship. :rolleyes:

    Gotta love the unique bridges of the Romulan and Klingon time ships, too. The color really sets them apart from the Fed bridge. I barely see any resemblance.
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    I dont care for bop's

    or Raiders either

    The Mogh ...love it

    What I want is a Big Bad TRIBBLE Ka'vort that can go nose to nose with a scimitar

    The special weapon would be the disruptor ball as seen in the klingon civil war fired from Galrown's Vorcha

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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    They could be next. So far looks like they are revamping older ships. So I hope to see this on KDF and Romulan next.
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  • jestersagejestersage Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    farmallm wrote: »
    They could be next. So far looks like they are revamping older ships. So I hope to see this on KDF and Romulan next.

    Their track record are poor on that however.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jellico1 wrote: »
    I dont care for bop's

    or Raiders either

    The Mogh ...love it

    What I want is a Big Bad TRIBBLE Ka'vort that can go nose to nose with a scimitar

    The special weapon would be the disruptor ball as seen in the klingon civil war fired from Galrown's Vorcha

    That's my pet pea

    Believe me, I want the K'vort in the game more than anyone. But I want it in at it's real size.

    http://hydra-images.cursecdn.com/sto.gamepedia.com/7/77/KDF_Size_Chart.PNG

    I also want the wings to be fixed in the "flying" position.
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    A C-Store "non-temporal" variant WITH SING CORE, of both the Mobius and the R'Mor would be nice ...

    And then perhaps the same treatment (minus Sing core) for the Korath and Krenn?
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rinkster wrote: »
    But, as I remember, its a warp core ship, not a singularity driven one.

    Thank the Elements. Sorry, but I'm not overly fond of singularity driven science ships. No way to have half-way decent power levels in weapons, shields and aux.
    xiaoping88 wrote: »
    And that was, of course, the result of a long discussion and designing process on Cryptic's side.
    It's totally not like they'd just copied the stats and didn't bother with balancing out a singularity core and singularity powers on a time ship. :rolleyes:

    Nope, it was just an incredibly stupid decision they now will have to repeat for all new factions. When the lockbox came out they handed out identical ships to both faction, probably to evade complaints that one would be more powerful than the other. And now they can't change it anymore without people complaining that their Klingon ship suddenly loses hull for a cloak. And they can't make new versions for new factions without the Klingon players complaining about being screwed over. So yep, the temporal science vessel was one incredibly short-sighted, stupid design decision that will haunt Cryptic for as long as STO exists.
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    They just announced the fed one... I think they MIGHT have kdf and rom ships "in stock" and will announce them soon. Just not together.
    Hope dies last ...

    Although, given that this is a refit... May be not a romulan one.

    I really really hope for a heavy raider refit of some kind (sorry don't give a TRIBBLE about poor mans escorts = raptors).
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2014
    imadude3 wrote: »
    so, new kdf and romulan ships too?

    :P

    Don't be silly.




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  • ddemlongddemlong Member Posts: 294
    edited May 2014
    KDF won't see jack, we can't even get a fleet guramba let alone a entire new ship.

    This is why I no longer pay money for the game.
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  • terongrayterongray Member Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I find it so very amusingly full of irony that KDF and Rom fans cry to preserve the 'uniqueness' of their factions whenever talk of things like cloaking come up amongst Feds. Yet the moment Starfleet get something unique to them in some time, they clamor and demand it for themselves as well.

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  • atlantraatlantra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ddemlong wrote: »
    KDF won't see jack, we can't even get a fleet guramba let alone a entire new ship.

    This is why I no longer pay money for the game.

    LOL so lazy they can't even copy the same ship and add an extra console slot to it. Yes, that's how fleet ships are made, Cryptic. Did you guys forget how to do it? Want me to do it for you?

    TRIBBLE like that makes me wonder. You guys aren't that busy. Copy, paste, add console slot/HP/shield = Fleet version. Do it to all KDF ships with no Fleet version. That easy...
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Though, if enough Roms complain, you might get one.
    You are kidding right ? Except for the OP scimitard (which is op mostly because of a2b, which is not a rom build), and the SRO, the Romulan are clearly the forgotten ones.
    Do we have an academy ? Do we have a security officer ? Do we have a unified palette when it comes to costume ? Do we have a Romulan borg armor set ? Do we have a starbase ? Do we have a fleet uniform we can wear (and not our BOFF) ? A fleet uniform that is unique and faction related. Do we have fleet plasma weapons equivalent to the disruptor and phaser ones ? Do we have cruiser command ?
    I can go on and on. Meanwhile, the Klingons have everything I just listed. Sure it's not perfect, but it's better.
    So, please stop saying we are listened by cryptic. It was true as long as they were selling legacy pack. Now, we are the klingons from before LoR. A few things are OP/unique and everyone jump on it (like the klingon cloak, the carriers, raiders... in the past), and quickly forget the price to pay.
    Thank the Elements. Sorry, but I'm not overly fond of singularity driven science ships. No way to have half-way decent power levels in weapons, shields and aux.
    I agree. In my eyes, the singularity core is a penalty, and the AM core is a good thing.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think there will probably be. But they will not roll out too many at once for marketing reasons - fewer ships allows them to keep each ship in the focus of the potential audience. At least as long as they can't put them in a big ship pack like the dyson ships.
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  • rarebear1rarebear1 Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Guys I am positive that Crypitc would love to put in new KDF ships but they have jump through a series of legal hopes with CBS because they own the rights so they have to first check to see if it will work however they have to get permission from CBS.
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    rarebear1 wrote: »
    Guys I am positive that Crypitc would love to put in new KDF ships but they have jump through a series of legal hopes with CBS because they own the rights so they have to first check to see if it will work however they have to get permission from CBS.

    Funny thing is that one of the ship designers once told us that with the Klingons (back then the Romulans were no playable but I'd guess it's the same with them) it's a lot easier to get permission to do stuff. CBS has less guidelines to follow than for the Federation.
    So I'm not sure how much water that argument holds.:)
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