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admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Reputation System
Greetings,

The problem I am facing now is that I have dozens of marks in reptutation I have maxed out wich I could need for slotting Space Sets on other reputation projects.

As example one of my chars has over 1000 Romulan marks but I dont need them as Romulan Reputation is on Tier V and I dont intend to slot any gear for that char.

I either could need thoose marks on Omega Reputation.

I think it would be beneficial if we could convert earned marks to other reputation marks. It doesent have to be available from Tier 1 as it could be exploited for sure.

But I think it would be fair if we could convert marks from maxed out reputation projects.

As example you have Romulan Reputation completed there should be a reputation assignment like "Convert Romulan Mark to > Omega / Nukara / Dyson / Undine

That would greatly utilize the marks you have already earned but never use again...

Note: I know you could convert them to dilithium but that just doesent cut it. I dont need dilithium. I need other marks ;)
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  • jhpalyer0jhpalyer0 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I agree, but not into other marks, another thread i recently started pointed out that Defera is the only adventure zone that still offers Fleet Marks but offers very little OMEGA marks even though it is a Borg adventure zones.

    How about an option that, at any tier, we can choose fleet marks as a rewards instead of Rep marks, or have an option to convert rep marks into fleet marks, and make the adventure zones offer 10-15 rep marks at the minimum, since Defera offers only 5-7 on none group missions.
  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    That is a good idea, but what about those NOT in a fleet? Makes FM completely useless. I'd rather just be given a choice on what marks I want from ANY mission that gives marks. Or give us a project that converts marks into other marks.

    I've finished off Dyson and I still have over 1000 Dyson marks, why can't I just exchange them for say Nukara marks, or Romulan marks.

    Even better...Make marks all universal.
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  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dragnridr wrote: »
    That is a good idea, but what about those NOT in a fleet? Makes FM completely useless. I'd rather just be given a choice on what marks I want from ANY mission that gives marks. Or give us a project that converts marks into other marks.

    I've finished off Dyson and I still have over 1000 Dyson marks, why can't I just exchange them for say Nukara marks, or Romulan marks.

    Even better...Make marks all universal.

    Thats what I am proposing.

    Of course Universal marks would be even better.

    In the past there has been a mark-converter in the Battlegroup Omega. You could convert into all kind of currently available marks back and forth.

    Bring it back!
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So why should we do new content if we can just exchange marks? Cryptic wants us to do the new content and doesn't want anyone to get a headstart. Omega, Dyson, and Undine have their unique requirements with BNP, VCI, and II, but it only requires about 10 Battlezone runs to get all the VCI or II needed to complete the sets. If you are not interested in equipment, then people will just run ISE or whatever content they want and not bother touching the new content.

    A Reputation Marks to Fleet Marks system and Fleet Marks to dilithium system would make sense not a Reputation Marks to Reputation Marks system.
  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You know theres content people enjoy more and less...

    Personally I enjoy the old content more. Doing things on Romulus, doing Crystaline, ect.

    I hate to grind for Dyson and Undine Marks as I dont really enjoy that content.

    We had that Conversion of Marks System in the past for thoose people that dont enjoy some of the content but still want to be able to get the gear from it.

    Its not that you get it for free or something. You still have to farm marks... just from different content. In other words your logic is flawed.

    There is no such things like a headstart. Reputation Projects are time-based.

    it doesent matter were you get the marks from you still can do it only once a day... no biggie no harm to anyone.
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  • jhpalyer0jhpalyer0 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Again converting into Fleet Marks should be a new option along with Dilithium, we already get a small amount of fleet marks anyway in some STFs and adventure zones, just because you don't want to join a fleet doesn't mean you can't save the marks for one day that you might change your mind.

    But yeah, as the above poster said exchanging rep marks for other rep marks, or just making universal marks kills any incentive to explore new content in the form of adventure zones or STFs if people are only in it for story or item sets.

    If you can grind your way to success in a high yield zone like Nukara or Dyson what's the point of visiting NR or Defera which have much lower yields. Such a system would kill diversity of gameplay be rather self defeating in terms of why the reputation system had so many different storylines to follow. If you don't like the gameplay styles, just stick with an item set and rep powers of one you do like, or learn to adapt. Originally i didn't like Nukara for its grindiness or NR for its dull missions but i percivered because i wanted the items and to see the story unfold
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You know theres content people enjoy more and less...

    Personally I enjoy the old content more. Doing things on Romulus, doing Crystaline, ect.

    I hate to grind for Dyson and Undine Marks as I dont really enjoy that content.

    We had that Conversion of Marks System in the past for thoose people that dont enjoy some of the content but still want to be able to get the gear from it.

    Its not that you get it for free or something. You still have to farm marks... just from different content. In other words your logic is flawed.

    There is no such things like a headstart. Reputation Projects are time-based.

    it doesent matter were you get the marks from you still can do it only once a day... no biggie no harm to anyone.

    There is a difference between the old Mark Conversion system and what is being proposed. Certain items were unavailable through other means like the Covariant Mk X [Cap]x3 expect by using Marks of Honor. Marks of Honor didn't give better PvP equipments and Marks of Exploration didn't give better PvE equipment so there is no difference between Marks of Honor equipment and Marks of Exploration equipment while there is a huge difference between Reputation equipment. The shield was no different than any other regular purple shield in the game except for the stats. The Reputation equipment is specially designed by a specific group so it has its own unique look and stats. Therefore, only players that have obtained respect from a group would be able to purchase their unique items. People should work for the items they want so if they want the STF ground sets, then they have to do STFs.

    Certain Marks are far easier to obtain than others depending on a player's play style. Omega Marks are far easier to obtain than Nukara Marks and Romulan Marks if a player is really into Elite STFs. It makes no sense that killing Borg would cause the Romulans to respect you.

    The Headstart aspect is due to players not having to work for the items. So if I have 5,000 Omega Marks, then I can log in for 5 minutes each day to get the Nukara Marks without doing any effort and get all the items at each tier.
  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    It would at least tone down the grind and give us the decision to play the content we like.

    A win-win scenario for both parties devs and players.
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  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    jhpalyer0 wrote: »
    Again converting into Fleet Marks should be a new option along with Dilithium, we already get a small amount of fleet marks anyway in some STFs and adventure zones, just because you don't want to join a fleet doesn't mean you can't save the marks for one day that you might change your mind.

    But yeah, as the above poster said exchanging rep marks for other rep marks, or just making universal marks kills any incentive to explore new content in the form of adventure zones or STFs if people are only in it for story or item sets.

    If you can grind your way to success in a high yield zone like Nukara or Dyson what's the point of visiting NR or Defera which have much lower yields. Such a system would kill diversity of gameplay be rather self defeating in terms of why the reputation system had so many different storylines to follow. If you don't like the gameplay styles, just stick with an item set and rep powers of one you do like, or learn to adapt. Originally i didn't like Nukara for its grindiness or NR for its dull missions but i percivered because i wanted the items and to see the story unfold

    Something your not getting. there are people that DO NOT want to join a fleet. Those people should not have to be forced to take fleet marks when they have NO USE for them. There should be a flag behind the scenes telling you in a fleet or not to provide you with universal marks .
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited May 2014
    I agree with the op

    However another use could be this

    allow a new special project where you can spend marks to buy support ships from that faction to assist you in whatever content you choose

    or support ground troops/fortifications
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  • bendalekbendalek Member Posts: 1,781 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Biggest problem I see with this proposal?

    Players would be going crazy, breeding bunnies and selling them for Rom Rep Marks, then converting them to to other Reps without firing a single shot, or even really trying all that hard (letting your DoFF's do all the work)

    Once you get the routine going, you can easily get 800 to 1600 Rom Rep Marks a week ... for 'bout 10mins "work" each day ... Kinda defeats the purpose don't you think?
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  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    bendalek wrote: »
    Biggest problem I see with this proposal?

    Players would be going crazy, breeding bunnies and selling them for Rom Rep Marks, then converting them to to other Reps without firing a single shot, or even really trying all that hard (letting your DoFF's do all the work)

    Once you get the routine going, you can easily get 800 to 1600 Rom Rep Marks a week ... for 'bout 10mins "work" each day ... Kinda defeats the purpose don't you think?

    Remove Bunny breeding for marks would pretty much solve that.

    You wouldnt have to breed bunnys to have a viable source of Romulan Marks if you can trade in all others.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Players would choose the path of least resistance - since not all Marks require the same investment of effort to get. Thus, certain content would be abandoned - no point in doing it if you could get the Marks faster through some other means.

    It's along the lines of earning Omega Marks vs. Nukara Marks...then comparing getting Voth/Undine compared to Nukara. If you could earn Omega Marks as quickly as you can get Voth/Undine...outside of folks zipping through ISE every hour, would they bother touching any of the other Borg content? It takes a Hell of a lot longer to get 5 Omega Marks on Defera than it does to get 10 Dyson Marks in the Dyson Ground Battlezone. You can run an ISE every hour or run two Crystalline every hour.

    The Marks simply do not have equal value - do not have equal investment requirements...so trading one for the other just doesn't make sense.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,557 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Remove Bunny breeding for marks would pretty much solve that.

    You wouldnt have to breed bunnys to have a viable source of Romulan Marks if you can trade in all others.

    What kind of monster are you? Do you actually want to kill off the Romulan Republic? Epohhs are the Romulan Republic's main source of food. Removing Epohh Breeding will cause millions of Romulans and Remans to starve.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dragnridr wrote: »
    Something your not getting. there are people that DO NOT want to join a fleet. Those people should not have to be forced to take fleet marks when they have NO USE for them.
    But you DO have a use for them: Selling them to someone's fleet.
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  • dragnridrdragnridr Member Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    But you DO have a use for them: Selling them to someone's fleet.

    HOW!!!???? Last I checked, marks are not transferrable from one toon to another.
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  • admiralcarteradmiralcarter Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    starkaos wrote: »
    What kind of monster are you? Do you actually want to kill off the Romulan Republic? Epohhs are the Romulan Republic's main source of food. Removing Epohh Breeding will cause millions of Romulans and Remans to starve.

    Nah! Just make sure you keep the food replicators in the Staging Area up and running and all is good. :rolleyes:

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  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    dragnridr wrote: »
    HOW!!!???? Last I checked, marks are not transferrable from one toon to another.

    For fleet marks, say your selling flete marks, find out what the current selling rate is, find a fleet who needs marks, get the creds, donate the marks (could be flipped on those last two)

    I personally have never done this, but i do watch some channels, like NOP or The Trading Channel and see if come up once in awhile.
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