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Best space set for TE Retrofit (Defiant)?

mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
edited May 2014 in The Academy
So, I have a Tactical Escort Retrofit, and I'm currently cranking through Omega Reputation System... and I also got the Aegis space set.

Simple question: which is the best set for this class? Aegis, MACO, Adapted, Borg, other Reputation sets?
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  • edgecrysgeredgecrysger Member Posts: 2,740 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Its not about the ship class, its about what build do you want.

    Aegis is the weakest set of all of em. MACO is probably the best. Dyson is great too, but it is focused on specific weapon energy types. Nukara, is maybe the worst set, but its great for tetryon builds (but since tetryon energy type is the worst.. thats the reason it is the worst reputation system).

    Personally i love the Aegis and i use it, but only because i PLAY FOR HAVING FUN, not for having the best items available.
  • riccardo171riccardo171 Member Posts: 1,802 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Nothing. That ship is a shame wrapped in a box of feel.

    Just avoid using it and get something else, anything will nuke it no matter what you use. I've flown one for a lot of time before switching to way better options, I know what I'm talking about.

    For the set, well anything you like. Usually recommended as general purpose is Borg set 2 + elite shields.
  • dauntless89dauntless89 Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hello there mhall85,
    First you need to understand there is no "best" set in this game. All ships are similar in terms of stats but these slight differences between them are making them good at something or bad at something else.
    Speaking about TER (tactical escort retrofit) - the ship is quite capable of doing damage but is also quite capable at dying easily.

    The set you need for it must be in synergy with your weapon types:
    -If you are running beam boat (beams/torpedos) you would need more damage instead of defensive capabilities due to the ~60-65% defense (miss chance for enemies to hit you).
    -If you are running cannon build (DHC/turrets) you will definitely want more survivability coming from the sets instead pure damage traits due to the fact you will be sitting in 1 place and if being focused...you may get rly a lot of hits before run away.

    So - since you have started Omega reputation, I would advice you to go for the borg set. The set is not "best" in terms of stats BUT its set bonuses are some of the best.
    -Set bonus 1 will repair your hull, give you around 0-50 all damage reduction resistance and passively increases your hull repair rate during combat and out.
    -Set bonus 2 will repair your shields, reduce damage to shields by 50%, remove ANY hazard debuffs on you for 15 ses and increases your regeneration with all facings.

    Consider the fact that TER is very maneuverable ship with ~65 defense, meaning you wont be hit much if you move - so the weak regenerative borg shield will fit nicely, since its regenerating really fast and will always be on to diminish any torpedo on you with 75%.


    ofc this is a basic set combo. Most people would tell you to go with 2 peice borg set and elite shield but that is all about ship synergy and personal preferences. If you can achieve it, get it, test it if you dont like it switch in to something else. :)

    Ahh and if you are a torpedo boat or something like that - adapted maco engines/shield combo will give you rly strong bonus - Tactical Readiness (25% bonus torpedo damage, 70% crew death disable rating, slowly return missing crew, revie death crew, +8.8 auxiliry). :)

    PS: Your request was for simple answer but in STO most simple answers wont give you much help and if you trust people blindly, you will never undestand how to build a ship by your own :)
    (but since tetryon energy type is the worst.. thats the reason it is the worst reputation system).

    Tetryon energy type was never about damage. It is one of the best science weapon types in all its variations. But this is not the thread to explain you why. :)
  • mhall85mhall85 Member Posts: 2,852 Arc User1
    edited May 2014
    ... quite capable at dying easily.


    YES. :P Found that out the hard way... many times, lol. But, I love DS9, and I have the full Defiant get-up (Belfast bridge, Sao Paulo & Quad cannons, TERet & cloak).

    Thanks for the lengthy advice!! One of the last missions I ran with my TER was one of the True Way missions... killed me a Kelvin by doing some stealth & hit-and-run. And dying a lot. :P

    Given that I have the quad cannons, I will probably go for the Borg set idea. :) Thanks!!!
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  • shockwave85shockwave85 Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I used the Aegis Deflector and Engine with a MACO or Elite Fleet shield for a long time on escorts because of the bonuses to Defense. The Aegis stuff is super easy to get, and that will hold you over for a long time until you decide you want something else.
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  • neos472neos472 Member Posts: 580 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Nothing. That ship is a shame wrapped in a box of feel.

    i love my defiant tyvm and i do agree that borg 2 set and elite shields are a great combo but with the undine faction you might wanna inspect those items a bit due to their tendency for offensive power.
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    You have very few heals. Get the 2p borg set...

    If you like boosting your shield power, the 3p set is actually fairly decent. If you have access to fleet elite resiliant shields, I'd use that instead
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  • captainpirkocaptainpirko Member Posts: 270 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Nothing. That ship is a shame wrapped in a box of feel.

    Just avoid using it and get something else, anything will nuke it no matter what you use. I've flown one for a lot of time before switching to way better options, I know what I'm talking about.

    For the set, well anything you like. Usually recommended as general purpose is Borg set 2 + elite shields.

    anyone that knows what they're doing can stay alive in even the weakest of ships. its all about the shields.

    which is where borg or aegis comes in. they may not be as high in cap, but the regen/resists of the respective sets will keep you alive while your skills keep your shields up. defiant is one of the highest damage ships the feddies have, and with all those tactical slots, you can easily kill anything before it kills you. with the exception of a few STFs, which is all about teamwork anyway.
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  • chaosgod777chaosgod777 Member Posts: 237 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Hi OP, To get the most out of these sets sometimes you have to mix and match. I find certain items to be better with certain classes. The ship your talking about, I have piloted it for 4 years in this game before finally choosing other ships to play with but still use it as its one of my best! I use an AP build with the normally but switch to disruptors, plasmas, and polarons all the time. I find in terms of a space equipment set you can not overlook the Sollanie set. 3 piece gives structural integrety leach. Combine this with Elite Fleet Resilient shields and the right consoles you have a monster in the making. Maco is another tankey type set. Dyson is more about the proton procs then the tanking. Adapted is great for survivability, 2 piece bonus and what not. Romulan and Reman sets are more power to plasma weapons and more Attack focused over the survivability. Omega is all about harnassing the incoming damage to power up your manuvering and lowering their resistances, it bonus' to weapon accuracy and with the right equipment leaves them open to a nasty single volly kill. It is worth mentioning that as I have all the pieces available up to this point of the 8472 CC set as well that they might be worth your consideration. It focus' mainly on Phaser/Disruptor and Photon projectile damage.
  • tyriniussstyriniusss Member Posts: 317 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I've been flying the Tac Escort, and later the fleet version with cannons/torp for a long time before switching to a Beam FHEC. I've been very successful with the adapted Borg Deflector and Engine and MACO shield, later Resilient ResB Fleet Shield, using that combination still on my new ship. There is a reason that combination is still so popular. Rep revamp definitely made me much more squishy, but that's because I chose my traits to be full on offensive. You can probably get a lot from slotting defensive Rep traits. Also don't underestimate the defensive bonus from moving at high speed, which is one reason I switched to beam broadsiding.
    The complete Solanae set is imho THE set to go with until you can afford Omega/Fleet gear!
    And don't forget to slot two copies of EPtS, or one copy with Damage Control Engineers. That's pretty much mandatory.
  • artfulmerkageartfulmerkage Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Most of my builds utilise Borg two-piece. Hard to go wrong with it.

    With my Mogai I use the Romulan Covariant, and I use full KHG on my Mogh. I tend to go thematic if it works for the build. Fleet shields are a fine staple, of course.
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  • emperordeslokemperordeslok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The TER(and fleet version) prior to the release of the kumari were the shining example of kill or be killed, take proper advantage of that to crush things and scram before you can take significant fire and you'll be fine(APO3 EPTE Evasive maneuvers are all your friend in that regard) I've used both the standard maco and omega sets on it and found the omega was far better at keeping me out of a fight, but the maco beam's disable/knockback could make the difference between killing something, and having to come back for a second pass.

    Side note I love the quad phasers visually and for the sound but their actual damage capacity leaves something to be desired, ACC2DMG2 fleet dhc's are much better(bonus points if you have the PDS from the heavy escort for a little extra burst)
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