I have been thinking about this every since I 1st replayed the Borg Advance story missions earlier this week.
So it's my fault that Cooper was able to infiltrate :eek:
How in the name of Kahless am I going to get into Sto'Vo'Kor now

Thanks for that! No Really..... Thanks! :P
Comments
And for that matter, Cooper would have had high enough clearance to find out that Starfleet was in fact NOT behind the attacks on the Undine to begin with. So why would the Undine still believe that Fed and KDF forces were the ones attacking them?
[/SIGPIC]
8472 are powerfully psychic... but they can only sense thoughts, not vast plot holes. It's their only weakness.
The undine don't strike me as the type to say "Oops, muh bad." If anything, they're even more upset that we didn't invade - that proves we're weak and THE WEAK MUST PERISH. EXTERMINATE. EXTERMINATE.
Oh and also, could someone clarify this for me? Is Cooper supposed to have been replaced when his ship was attacked in fluidic space, or have we never actually seen the real Cooper?
I'm assuming that the rest of the Undine didn't believe any of them who reported back the truth? Or didn't care?
Maybe Cooper was just a bigot and decided not to report the truth.
Star Trek Battles member. Want to roll with a good group of people regardless of fleets and not have to worry about DPS while doing STFs? Come join the channel and join in the fun!
http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1145998/star-trek-battles-channel-got-canon/p1
Heh. You win the thread
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
he was civilian at that time working on the borg, why would he have clearance to starfleet deployments or anything classified about the undine? (excluding stuff that also relates to the borg)
also do we know when he was switched? on Kessik IV when he is left alone or in Fluidic Space?
for spoiler text use #1b1c1f
Which means, he was present in the middle of the mission discovering the Iconian duplicates as well as attacking the Borg. You'd think he'd report this back to Undine higher ups.
i mean if they infiltrated everyone like that, you would think they would be aware from the very beginning that the Feds, KDF or romulans weren't really attacking them, and realize that something was off, but apparently no one among the undine is capable of critical thinking, though its not really their fault cryptic left a huge plot-hole, i guess
In general, a large percentage of STO's plot relies on everybody involved being complete idiots and/or too xenophobic to give a ****.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Helpful Tools: Dictionary.com - Logical fallacies - Random generator - Word generator - Color tool - Extra Credits - List of common English language errors - New T6 Big booty tutorial
so was egg i think at this point they just don't care
or maybe the borg?
Not to mention the treats of the kazon from VOY in the delta quadrant. Undine does tie to that quadrant.
My character Tsin'xing
We are perceived as impure, and weak and must therefore be eradicated from existence. No different to the borg believe they are the only capable of obtaining perfection and must do so at the complete decimation of the galaxy.
A renewed dominion threat could be interesting, though they're not as united as they would need to be for that. Though I suspect the direction they are now taking is to a full face off with the Iconians after a bit more undine bashing I guess. Then there's if stopping the undine in the sphere will eliminate the voth stalemate, escalating that conflict again.
Then there is the question of what is cryptics plan for Q bar some annual comic relief. Will the continuum be involved in some way in the Iconian plot. Hell will the preservers even be dragged into this, or will the Iconians dust off some ancient servitor race they keep in storage for "special occasions".
it was explained that the iconians or someone impersonating them built fake ships and sent them into the fluidic space in order to rile up 8472 knowing full well how 8472 would react. they dont seem to understand what they dont wish to know, even if it is the truth ad they can see as a lie.
i see a cake, but someone else sees a pie instead.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Yeah it is the Undine fault....In the Voyager episode where they copied Star Fleet academy, they refused to believe that the United Federation of Planets was peaceful, even though they had every single detail copied, they were still going to go ahead and wipe them out, the Undine don't really care about the truth, why would they start now.
Frankly, I don't think it really mattered them attack us was faked. I think to them, it just served as the ultimate "Undine, Undine, rah-rah-rah!" moment. Knowing the Undine (or rather the leaders), it was just a simple excuse to have things happen.
Wouldn't be surprised if the Iconians that are helping the Romulan Star Empire aren't actually Iconians but Undine who are faking Iconian technology (but very good fakes). Which probably has pissed off the Iconians. And since we're using real Iconian tech, it probably has them even madder.
Because the Weak will perish.