What we need to do is form a GAMERS UNION. not just for this game, but please hear me out. We need to create a website and get as many people as possible to join. Then vote in a head commity to run the union (keep track of donations,gaming contracts and so on) Then hire a good lawyer and find a way to have congress pass it so that at the beginning of every onlline game ,(you know where you agree to their gaming terms and conditions) our Gaming unions contract will be attached. That way in the future when something like Season 9 in star trek happens. We can orgainize a 'STRIKE" (you know where people walk up and down in front of a business with picket signs but we'll come up with some equibalant for online use) Then the game IP has to be put on hold until issues are settled and BOTH sides come to a agreement. Look this was just a idea that poped into my head but i think it may have potential even if it seems unrealistic now it may be possible to impliment something like this in the future. Alot of us just bite our tounge when something bad happens to us, but when it happens to your child or parent or brother or sister you get 10x as mad. What if, you kid was playing a game they had spent their allowances on and told you that the company that owned the game they was playing did to them what S9 sto did to us. With the gamers union we could help this from ever happening to the ppl we care about and it would cause developers to think 2x before TRIBBLE over their players.
THE GAMERS UNION, Fighting for fair and just online entertainment for Gamers everywhere.
Video games are created, owned, and run by businesses. Gamers are consumers. We "get what we pay for."
Get over yourself.
My Old Blog about things that could and should have been added when I wrote it. Not sure what I want to do with it now. I'll just keep it available now that most of it is outdated.
What a great idea! I want to be in charge of the dues....
You can't actually support this mentality? IRL, fail to show up for work, you get fired, not a raise, at least where I live (my state does not allow workers to bully businesses, they have the right to quit anytime they feel their pay is inadequate).
In game, what you gonna do, refuse to play? Shut down the game if you don't get what you want? Now that's a solution; if you dislike something, destroy it?!
What a great idea! I want to be in charge of the dues....
I work at a bank. I'm good with money. I should be in charge of the dues.
In game, what you gonna do, refuse to play? Shut down the game if you don't get what you want? Now that's a solution; if you dislike something, destroy it?!
If he got 5000 to agree with him there'd still be 500,000 who have no idea who he is and would go right on spending.
...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
What if, you kid was playing a game they had spent their allowances on and told you that the company that owned the game they was playing did to them what S9 sto did to us.
I'd be like: wow they made customized kits that people have been asking for, balanced out the reputation power creep, gave the Federation a proper starbase, removed one of the pay for respec tokens and made it free to do, and added an awesome story mission that wraps up one of the lingering plot threads with both Tim Russ and Michael Dorn showing up. Can I play?
My Romulan Liberated Borg character made it to Level 30 and beat the (old) Defense of New Romulus with the skill point bug.
To the OP: Can I have some of what you're smoking? I need a really good break from reality from time to time.
You want to affect an online game you don't like? STOP playing and paying for it. When they see the bottom line profit drop drastically, the owners will either:
A) Do something to change the game to bring paying players back (and get them spending money.)
or
Sunset the game.
We here who post a lot on the STO boards are a small (but often vocal) minority of the existing STO playerbase. Some of us are passionate enough to make suggestions that the game developers find useful in continuing/expanding the game; but the OTHER feedback (which I think most game developers put an overabundance of reliance on) is data-mining info from the server to see how the majority of the playerbase plays the content; and what they spend cash on <--- And the Devs use that to drive expansion plans and decide what items/promotions to sell in the cash shop.
In the end though, it's a business, and profit in the bottom line; so your best method to effect change is to stop paying/playing (even if you acquire Zen via in game means, the Zen you got was payed for with real cash by someone at some point; so getting it and spending it in game is still putting money in Cryptic/PWE's pocket and maintaining demand,giving the players who pay real cash for Zen an incentive to continue.) If you pay/play, you are basically saying you like the game overall, enough to support it financially (whether the real cash comes out of your pocket directly or not.)
Formerly known as Armsman from June 2008 to June 20, 2012 PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
i hope this is an attempt at humor. surely someone cant be serious with this idea? the overblown sense of entitlement, the lack of any legal understanding, confusing personal opinion with some kind of personal damage? please tell me its a joke.
This is a great idea. Get your lawyer to contact mine. We can add this into the lawsuit I am compiling against cryptic for repercussions for everything owed to the gamers in this game.
NERF CANNONS - THEY NEED A 50% NERF
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
Imagine podcasts where Gecko gets asked difficult questions, as opposed to being invited to say how wonderful everything is.
Now that might work.....
This is actually why I stopped bothering with podcasts and really paying attention to articles or ask Cryptic. These are usually cherry picked in advance and avoid any sort of controversial questioning. Its all the same fluff that usually gets put out. The dev blogs are usually all we need.
As far as the OP goes I find the idea not only laughable but inescapably na
What we need to do is form a GAMERS UNION. not just for this game, but please hear me out. We need to create a website and get as many people as possible to join. Then vote in a head commity to run the union (keep track of donations,gaming contracts and so on) Then hire a good lawyer and find a way to have congress pass it so that at the beginning of every onlline game ,(you know where you agree to their gaming terms and conditions) our Gaming unions contract will be attached. That way in the future when something like Season 9 in star trek happens. We can orgainize a 'STRIKE" (you know where people walk up and down in front of a business with picket signs but we'll come up with some equibalant for online use) Then the game IP has to be put on hold until issues are settled and BOTH sides come to a agreement. Look this was just a idea that poped into my head but i think it may have potential even if it seems unrealistic now it may be possible to impliment something like this in the future. Alot of us just bite our tounge when something bad happens to us, but when it happens to your child or parent or brother or sister you get 10x as mad. What if, you kid was playing a game they had spent their allowances on and told you that the company that owned the game they was playing did to them what S9 sto did to us. With the gamers union we could help this from ever happening to the ppl we care about and it would cause developers to think 2x before TRIBBLE over their players.
THE GAMERS UNION, Fighting for fair and just online entertainment for Gamers everywhere.
What we need to do is form a GAMERS UNION. not just for this game, but please hear me out. We need to create a website and get as many people as possible to join. Then vote in a head commity to run the union (keep track of donations,gaming contracts and so on) Then hire a good lawyer and find a way to have congress pass it so that at the beginning of every onlline game ,(you know where you agree to their gaming terms and conditions) our Gaming unions contract will be attached. That way in the future when something like Season 9 in star trek happens. We can orgainize a 'STRIKE" (you know where people walk up and down in front of a business with picket signs but we'll come up with some equibalant for online use) Then the game IP has to be put on hold until issues are settled and BOTH sides come to a agreement. Look this was just a idea that poped into my head but i think it may have potential even if it seems unrealistic now it may be possible to impliment something like this in the future. Alot of us just bite our tounge when something bad happens to us, but when it happens to your child or parent or brother or sister you get 10x as mad. What if, you kid was playing a game they had spent their allowances on and told you that the company that owned the game they was playing did to them what S9 sto did to us. With the gamers union we could help this from ever happening to the ppl we care about and it would cause developers to think 2x before TRIBBLE over their players.
THE GAMERS UNION, Fighting for fair and just online entertainment for Gamers everywhere.
Sorry, OP. But I prefer the old fashioned methods of making my dissatisfaction, as a consumer, known if I am unhappy with a product or feature. That would be:
1. Feedback/customer complaints
2. "Voting" with my wallet.
The idea of a gamer's union is kinda out there, not to mention silly. And in any case, I don't have the necessary requirements to make a good union member. In other words, I'm not a thug or extortionist. Nor do I have an inflated sense of self worth. :P
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Video games are created, owned, and run by businesses. Gamers are consumers. We "get what we pay for."
Get over yourself.
You can't actually support this mentality? IRL, fail to show up for work, you get fired, not a raise, at least where I live (my state does not allow workers to bully businesses, they have the right to quit anytime they feel their pay is inadequate).
In game, what you gonna do, refuse to play? Shut down the game if you don't get what you want? Now that's a solution; if you dislike something, destroy it?!
If you want to impact the game then do it with your wallet. Give or don't give, that is the only thing you as a CONSUMER can have an impact.
If he got 5000 to agree with him there'd still be 500,000 who have no idea who he is and would go right on spending.
Every season. Every damn season... :rolleyes:
Terrible idea.
Gamer fifth estate that actually works?
Imagine podcasts where Gecko gets asked difficult questions, as opposed to being invited to say how wonderful everything is.
Now that might work.....
I'd be like: wow they made customized kits that people have been asking for, balanced out the reputation power creep, gave the Federation a proper starbase, removed one of the pay for respec tokens and made it free to do, and added an awesome story mission that wraps up one of the lingering plot threads with both Tim Russ and Michael Dorn showing up. Can I play?
My character Tsin'xing
You want to affect an online game you don't like? STOP playing and paying for it. When they see the bottom line profit drop drastically, the owners will either:
A) Do something to change the game to bring paying players back (and get them spending money.)
or
We here who post a lot on the STO boards are a small (but often vocal) minority of the existing STO playerbase. Some of us are passionate enough to make suggestions that the game developers find useful in continuing/expanding the game; but the OTHER feedback (which I think most game developers put an overabundance of reliance on) is data-mining info from the server to see how the majority of the playerbase plays the content; and what they spend cash on <--- And the Devs use that to drive expansion plans and decide what items/promotions to sell in the cash shop.
In the end though, it's a business, and profit in the bottom line; so your best method to effect change is to stop paying/playing (even if you acquire Zen via in game means, the Zen you got was payed for with real cash by someone at some point; so getting it and spending it in game is still putting money in Cryptic/PWE's pocket and maintaining demand,giving the players who pay real cash for Zen an incentive to continue.) If you pay/play, you are basically saying you like the game overall, enough to support it financially (whether the real cash comes out of your pocket directly or not.)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
If enough customers complain about something, the company will change.
I found the reply about "employees bullying companies" to be hilarious.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10052253
Why are you not rejoicing?
LOL this is great! Thanks, I needed a good laugh and this troll-o-rama satire delivered.
Oh wait, you're serious? Thanks again, that makes the laughter even better!
We need a Union in STO asap! The CARDASSIAN UNION!!!
Bravo. *clap. clap. clap.*
My character Tsin'xing
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
This is the third or fourth time this topic has been brought up in the last year or two actually.
CRUISERS NEED A 206% HULL BUFF
This is actually why I stopped bothering with podcasts and really paying attention to articles or ask Cryptic. These are usually cherry picked in advance and avoid any sort of controversial questioning. Its all the same fluff that usually gets put out. The dev blogs are usually all we need.
As far as the OP goes I find the idea not only laughable but inescapably na
Oh god this made my day XD XD dude you got some good jokes
Sorry, OP. But I prefer the old fashioned methods of making my dissatisfaction, as a consumer, known if I am unhappy with a product or feature. That would be:
1. Feedback/customer complaints
2. "Voting" with my wallet.
The idea of a gamer's union is kinda out there, not to mention silly. And in any case, I don't have the necessary requirements to make a good union member. In other words, I'm not a thug or extortionist. Nor do I have an inflated sense of self worth. :P
Sod that there is now a pizza cake, that is now the king of the food stuffs. :eek:
My character Tsin'xing