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Kill Captain Shon - bring on Data

nakedcrooknakedcrook Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2014 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Seriously...how many people want some blue guy in command of The Enterprise?

It is generally assumed that The Enterprise E was lost or decommissioned before the commissioning of The Enterprise F, but it is also believed that Data is still alive as of 2409. So here is my question - if Data is still alive...why is Shon in command of The Enterprise F? Wouldn;t Data be the obvious choice?
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Data is alive but using him would require cryptic to pay brent spiner for his likeness usage. Shon is free. I'd rather see money wasted on new content then on over-priced actors.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    1. Enterprise E was not lost, in fact they did return from a mission.
    2. Enterprise E was likely decommissioned shortly before the events of 2409
    3. Data would had been promoted following his extended mission,
    4. You're racist
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Didn't Data and the E disappear? Hard to make him the Captain of the F when still MIA.
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Didn't Data and the E disappear? Hard to make him the Captain of the F when still MIA.
    Nope. Data brought the E home.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    Nope. Data brought the E home.

    Where is that said? I must have missed that.
  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited April 2014
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Where is that said? I must have missed that.
    I think there's a whole short about him bringing the E back in the Star Trek magazine. It was written as part of the cross promotion between the magazine, cbs, and cryptic.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    From the path to 2409, year 2391:

    Responding to the possibility of Species 8472 appearing in Federation space, Starfleet Command assigns a task force to investigate any possible appearances of the race. A skilled team of scientists, diplomats and security experts will be looking into any signs that the species is in the Alpha Quadrant and formulating possible plans of action. As a start to their research, the team is conducting extensive interviews of the crew of the Enterprise-E, which found the anomalies in the McAllister C-5 Nebula, and former crew members of Voyager, which is the only Starfleet ship known to have definitive contact with the mysterious aliens.
  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Didn't Data and the E disappear? Hard to make him the Captain of the F when still MIA.
    stf65 wrote: »
    Nope. Data brought the E home.
    dracounguis wrote: »
    Where is that said? I must have missed that.

    Cryptic's Christine Thompson penned a semi-canonical short story published in the Star Trek magazine, titled An Unexpected Honor, about Shon meeting Data on Earth, after the former was offered captaincy of the Ent-F.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    From the path to 2409, year 2391:

    Responding to the possibility of Species 8472 appearing in Federation space, Starfleet Command assigns a task force to investigate any possible appearances of the race. A skilled team of scientists, diplomats and security experts will be looking into any signs that the species is in the Alpha Quadrant and formulating possible plans of action. As a start to their research, the team is conducting extensive interviews of the crew of the Enterprise-E, which found the anomalies in the McAllister C-5 Nebula, and former crew members of Voyager, which is the only Starfleet ship known to have definitive contact with the mysterious aliens.
    The enterprise E goes on the investigative mission in 2408.
    According to the short story "Unexpected Honor" by Christine Thompson, featured in Star Trek Magazine #40, the Enterprise-E has, in fact, been destroyed by Undine forces while investigating Starbase 236. Though the ship itself was lost, most of the crew, including Captain Data, survived.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    stf65 wrote: »
    I think there's a whole short about him bringing the E back in the Star Trek magazine. It was written as part of the cross promotion between the magazine, cbs, and cryptic.

    Ah, ok. Kinda remember something about a story in a magazine. Just had no desire to buy a magazine to read a couple pages of story. If anyone can give a synopsis of it, I'd appreciate it. Where did the E go? How long was it missing? Etc. Or did they leave that intentionally vague?
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Ah yes, Data was offered command and turned it down
  • vhiranikosvhiranikos Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    whine whine whine

    shon isn't that bad.

    you'll just have people whining that data is stealing their thunder instead.


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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    It's not the whining that bothers me, it's the racist comment he made
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Seriously...how many people want some blue guy in command of The Enterprise?
    That's racist! D=

    I'd think fans of Star Trek of all people would appreciate some diversity. Guess having a pale colorless android as the flagship captain is more comfortable then.
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  • nakedcrooknakedcrook Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Data is way better. I would rather see money spent on Brent Spiner than other trash like "Season" 9.

    If they can afford Tuvok and Worf...they can afford Data. It would feel more like Trek if we had scenes...like this!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_w3-tKVtI
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    It's not the whining that bothers me, it's the racist comment he made
    People make racist comments even in the future. Spock had to deal with them, Data had to deal with them, Worf had to deal with them. It's fits the abruptness of an andorian, pink skin. :)
  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Seriously...how many people want some blue guy in command of The Enterprise?

    Your point is valid...but I'd love to see what CPT Archer would say :P
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    guest stars need a break
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Data is way better. I would rather see money spent on Brent Spiner than other trash like "Season" 9.

    If they can afford Tuvok and Worf...they can afford Data. It would feel more like Trek if we had scenes...like this!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_w3-tKVtI
    I think dan stahl once said something like spiner wanted $200k. It was some ungodly 6 figure amount.
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    calling me a pinkskin, meh...

    saying I shouldn't be commanding the flagship of my alliance of which my species was a founder and a key player in the alliance, because i am alien? not of the same colour as the others?

    that's racist... and very... crude
  • bladewolf5bladewolf5 Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I bet people don't want a blue guy?? They want sexy blue girl...haha...:D
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bladewolf5 wrote: »
    I bet people don't want a blue guy?? They want sexy blue girl...haha...:D

    Bingo! Sexy > Racist :D
  • nakedcrooknakedcrook Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    That's racist! D=

    I'd think fans of Star Trek of all people would appreciate some diversity. Guess having a pale colorless android as the flagship captain is more comfortable then.

    Calling some guy a blue guy is not racist. I just think he sucks as a character. He is boring and uninteresting.

    There is nothing wrong with diversity...but seriously...there were better choices. Data was the most obvious choice and the better choice. He is established and he would give STO a wee bit more credibility when it comes to convincing people that this is Trek.
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  • potasssiumpotasssium Member Posts: 1,226 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bladewolf5 wrote: »
    I bet people don't want a blue guy?? They want sexy blue girl...haha...:D

    I did notice for the first time today that both the Klingon & Romulan flagships have female captains.
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  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Calling some guy a blue guy is not racist. I just think he sucks as a character. He is boring and uninteresting.

    There is nothing wrong with diversity...but seriously...there were better choices. Data was the most obvious choice and the better choice. He is established and he would give STO a wee bit more credibility when it comes to convincing people that this is Trek.
    If Data is the swivel point then those people don't need to be playing sto. They'd just muck it up with their whining about everyting else but Data. We have enough cheeze and whine on the forum already. :)
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Calling some guy a blue guy is not racist. I just think he sucks as a character. He is boring and uninteresting.

    There is nothing wrong with diversity...but seriously...there were better choices. Data was the most obvious choice and the better choice. He is established and he would give STO a wee bit more credibility when it comes to convincing people that this is Trek.


    no, saying that some blue guy shouldn't command the enterprise is racist...
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    nakedcrook wrote: »
    Calling some guy a blue guy is not racist. I just think he sucks as a character. He is boring and uninteresting.

    There is nothing wrong with diversity...but seriously...there were better choices. Data was the most obvious choice and the better choice. He is established and he would give STO a wee bit more credibility when it comes to convincing people that this is Trek.
    Problem with that is, getting Brent Spinner would cost too much for too little gain (and no, the player's delight is not enough to offset that)

    Besides, they've already released the story, and Shon is established; that's not gonna change. Nothing will change it, end of story

    And frankly, your comment IS racist; saying that someone isn't allowed to do this/that simply because they annoy you
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    is it sad we're accusing someone in real life of being racist toward a species that exists only in a fantasy world?
  • stf65stf65 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    is it sad we're accusing someone in real life of being racist toward a species that exists only in a fantasy world?
    Not really, since racism is generally the dislike of something for superficial reasons. Imaginary characters can be just as superficial as real ones. :)
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