Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
The new apperal is restricted to locations and my Rep system is broken! It was broken when they made it a massive grind to begin with but this is just unacceptable. I've been a part of this commuity for 4 years now. I paid monthly for 3yrs and have only been a lifetime for 1yr. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. Trust me...how many $50 packs have I bought...plus the legacy of romulus pack to boot!
I'm tired. I work all day. To come into the game to work some more is just getting to be too much for me. Keeping my fleet going is work, keeping my characters even marginally going is too much work.
I'm sorry but I have a life and as a paying member for so long this is inexcusable.
I didnt get on tribble because I didnt want to be disappointed. I guess I should have done that first so I wasnt so excited for it today.
You have failed me Dev team. I've stood up for you. I have not bashed you in these forums ever. As a matter of fact I have pointed out the stuff Atari and PW have had an impact on.
I'm tired of throwing money at you for stupid TRIBBLE that is useless when I've given you an absurd amount to begin with. WHY AM I PAYING TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At Least when I work I get PAID! YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME FOR THIS GARBAGE! THE REWARDS ARE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!!!
You slip up one more time and I am done. I will bash this game. I will make sure no one joins it. I dont want my friends or family giving you the time of day. I woudlnt let my DOG give you the time of day and he greets everyone!
I hope your read this I really do. I've been so supportive over the years. I just cant take it anymore. The lies and stupidity have just pushed me over the edge.
Oh and enjoy my money cause you are not getting another cent from me until things change. I hope there are other players who pay into the system that join me on this.
I am not buying another key ever! I am not buying another ship EVER!
Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
The new apperal is restricted to locations and my Rep system is broken! It was broken when they made it a massive grind to begin with but this is just unacceptable. I've been a part of this commuity for 4 years now. I paid monthly for 3yrs and have only been a lifetime for 1yr. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. Trust me...how many $50 packs have I bought...plus the legacy of romulus pack to boot!
I'm tired. I work all day. To come into the game to work some more is just getting to be too much for me. Keeping my fleet going is work, keeping my characters even marginally going is too much work.
I'm sorry but I have a life and as a paying member for so long this is inexcusable.
I didnt get on tribble because I didnt want to be disappointed. I guess I should have done that first so I wasnt so excited for it today.
You have failed me Dev team. I've stood up for you. I have not bashed you in these forums ever. As a matter of fact I have pointed out the stuff Atari and PW have had an impact on.
I'm tired of throwing money at you for stupid TRIBBLE that is useless when I've given you an absurd amount to begin with. WHY AM I PAYING TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At Least when I work I get PAID! YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME FOR THIS GARBAGE! THE REWARDS ARE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!!!
You slip up one more time and I am done. I will bash this game. I will make sure no one joins it. I dont want my friends or family giving you the time of day. I woudlnt let my DOG give you the time of day and he greets everyone!
I hope your read this I really do. I've been so supportive over the years. I just cant take it anymore. The lies and stupidity have just pushed me over the edge.
Oh and enjoy my money cause you are not getting another cent from me until things change. I hope there are other players who pay into the system that join me on this.
I am not buying another key ever! I am not buying another ship EVER!
Okay, I'm sorry Cryptic didn't get your approval on any of the changes they've made to the game. I guess they should have made special consideration just for you to be involved with the changes. Poor you. Really, words can't even express the hilarity of your post, so I won't even try.
Yes, I agree with some of your points. How does the undine rep fit into the big picture of STO? Is it just the continuation of some storyline or does it actually expand exploration? I don't see many new features here either in terms of functionality as you put it other than some new shinies and a new adventure zone.
However, the adventure zones are improving even if they don't seem to have any real connection to the rest of the game than through the rep system and the storyline. I liked the new voth battlezone ground gameplay, and I have to admit it that it made ground fighting exciting again.
I think you need to just take a few deep breaths and sit this one out for a while if it makes you that upset. There's no point in getting upset at a development team that is content with the status quo-1 new adventure zone, reputation, and FE every season.
Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
The new apperal is restricted to locations and my Rep system is broken! It was broken when they made it a massive grind to begin with but this is just unacceptable. I've been a part of this commuity for 4 years now. I paid monthly for 3yrs and have only been a lifetime for 1yr. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. Trust me...how many $50 packs have I bought...plus the legacy of romulus pack to boot!
I'm tired. I work all day. To come into the game to work some more is just getting to be too much for me. Keeping my fleet going is work, keeping my characters even marginally going is too much work.
I'm sorry but I have a life and as a paying member for so long this is inexcusable.
I didnt get on tribble because I didnt want to be disappointed. I guess I should have done that first so I wasnt so excited for it today.
You have failed me Dev team. I've stood up for you. I have not bashed you in these forums ever. As a matter of fact I have pointed out the stuff Atari and PW have had an impact on.
I'm tired of throwing money at you for stupid TRIBBLE that is useless when I've given you an absurd amount to begin with. WHY AM I PAYING TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At Least when I work I get PAID! YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME FOR THIS GARBAGE! THE REWARDS ARE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!!!
You slip up one more time and I am done. I will bash this game. I will make sure no one joins it. I dont want my friends or family giving you the time of day. I woudlnt let my DOG give you the time of day and he greets everyone!
I hope your read this I really do. I've been so supportive over the years. I just cant take it anymore. The lies and stupidity have just pushed me over the edge.
Oh and enjoy my money cause you are not getting another cent from me until things change. I hope there are other players who pay into the system that join me on this.
I am not buying another key ever! I am not buying another ship EVER!
Doesn't matter if you pay $10,000, the devs are not required to cater to you. If you think the money you've paid is some kind of investment, I'm afraid you were bound to be disappointed at some point.
You are well within your rights to stop paying and stop playing because you disagree with the direction of the game. You are welcome to voice your opinions. Please do not go around actively ruining the fun for those of us who still like the game, and for those new players who may like the game.
I only can say, at least you learned the lesson at some point. Better later than never, i guess. But cryptic is doing this since ages ago, i dont understand the complains now.. or finally people is going into reason?
And btw, its your fault to waste so much money in this game, seriously.. cryptic is not forcing you to do it. And they are not "rewarding" the players since well, almost years ago. I will NEVER waste real money on this game. With the exception of my first 2-3 months playing, after that, i realized how things were going and of course i didnt want to give cryptic more money. Its stupid.
Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
The new apperal is restricted to locations and my Rep system is broken! It was broken when they made it a massive grind to begin with but this is just unacceptable. I've been a part of this commuity for 4 years now. I paid monthly for 3yrs and have only been a lifetime for 1yr. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. Trust me...how many $50 packs have I bought...plus the legacy of romulus pack to boot!
I'm tired. I work all day. To come into the game to work some more is just getting to be too much for me. Keeping my fleet going is work, keeping my characters even marginally going is too much work.
I'm sorry but I have a life and as a paying member for so long this is inexcusable.
I didnt get on tribble because I didnt want to be disappointed. I guess I should have done that first so I wasnt so excited for it today.
You have failed me Dev team. I've stood up for you. I have not bashed you in these forums ever. As a matter of fact I have pointed out the stuff Atari and PW have had an impact on.
I'm tired of throwing money at you for stupid TRIBBLE that is useless when I've given you an absurd amount to begin with. WHY AM I PAYING TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At Least when I work I get PAID! YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME FOR THIS GARBAGE! THE REWARDS ARE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!!!
You slip up one more time and I am done. I will bash this game. I will make sure no one joins it. I dont want my friends or family giving you the time of day. I woudlnt let my DOG give you the time of day and he greets everyone!
I hope your read this I really do. I've been so supportive over the years. I just cant take it anymore. The lies and stupidity have just pushed me over the edge.
Oh and enjoy my money cause you are not getting another cent from me until things change. I hope there are other players who pay into the system that join me on this.
I am not buying another key ever! I am not buying another ship EVER!
Do you feel better now that it's out of your system?
I think eradicator is the only person to say anything that really meant anything here. I myself was just seriously disappointed. I did need to vent.
However to me my points are still valid and I know a lot of other players that feel the same. Most players who are upset or just disappointed just dont say anything. I just chose to do so this time.
It does feel a lot like work. You cant deny that. However the best part of this game is my fleet mates. They are some of the most loyal and best friends a guy could ask for!
They are what have kept me going. Kept me keeping it sane all this time. I do enjoy myself when I am with them or any of my friends I've made here over the years.
It does sadden me when I see them play less and less every time an update comes out. All for the same reasons I've stated about the excessive grinding.
The bold promises that never really were fulfilled.(i.e. making fleet bases easier for small fleets) Now we are not a small fleet but we aren't any where near max either. Even we struggled for so long.
I've played with the rep system with the 3hrs that I can be on for in between managing base assets and holdings. They never really addressed them the way they promised. They just bandaided them.
Another reason I keep playing is that I love Star Trek and I love my ships and I put so much time and effort into it that it would be a waste to throw all this away.
Now I've defended the lock boxes, the Dil Grinding, even the Rep system for the most part.
However they made the anniversary a grind now. There is not one thing in the game anymore that is a thankyou for our support for keeping the game alive.
I'm sorry if you think that " I want them to cater to me". For that is not what I want. I just want the game to be more fun for people. We keep asking for a ground revamp and what we got was crossfire which all it added was a shooter mode. Which was okay but not what we wanted. I know I've been around that long. Still I gave them the benefit of the doubt on it.
I put this thread up to give people something to think about. I'd like to see featured episodes like we used to every season. 4 to 5 new missions that came with it. Not 1 and then a bunch of grinding content.
I not once said I hate change. As a matter of fact I LIKE CHANGE. Change brings progress. Change brings hope! If they do something with this new ESD look that is a functional asset to game play then I am all for it. I'd even say the look is great for a tourist who is between ESD and Earth. It doesnt feel like a starfleet facility. It looks like somewhere a diplomat would go to see the space dock. It doesnt feel like a place a starship captain let alone their crew should be.
Look maybe I'm wrong. I guess maybe if I was in space a long time that would be a good place to go and relax. The lounge is small compared to Club 47 and I know that will be addressed in a future update.
I will conclude with I just needed to get this out of my system. However my feelings stand as they are. I am a human being who has the right to voice their opinion without subjugation by anyone else. Kinda the fun of Star Trek to begin with.
I just want to thank Eradicator again for the most profound and yet simple solution. I've had time to sleep and relax since last night. I do appreciate everyone commenting too. As all points of view are valid expressions of everyone here.
I know some people troll looking for stuff like this. I'm may not be smart enough to not say anything but then again change rarely happens if you are silent.
Wish you all the best and maybe get a chance to chat with me sometime in game. I might just surprise you.
And the new graphics rock. I can push the settings on max, and it both looks better and runs faster.
Oh, were you upset about something in particular? I couldn't manage to find a point while I was sifting thru that post.
Seriously??? graphics are worst 1000 times than before. All the definition of the ships is lost, unless you deactivate the postprocessing and then, the colors and illumination sucks. This is another terrible mistake cryptic did, and i cant believe you think the graphics are better now lol. :eek:
I will agree with the Kit revamp and the Trait system revamp as well. These were by far the best things for this season and the story of the featured episode was not bad at all. It was well written and I think Tim Russ did a spectacular job!
A lot of work went into this episode and the new system changes. I do give them props on that.
Patch for season 9 then Graphics glitch, new patch this morning supposedly to correct that issue well folks hasn't helped one bit I'm in ESD and i load, it makes it to ESD than it stops working Completely.
have they just not fixed Mac Client yet?
I think eradicator is the only person to say anything that really meant anything here. I myself was just seriously disappointed. I did need to vent.
However to me my points are still valid and I know a lot of other players that feel the same. Most players who are upset or just disappointed just dont say anything. I just chose to do so this time.
It does feel a lot like work. You cant deny that. However the best part of this game is my fleet mates. They are some of the most loyal and best friends a guy could ask for!
They are what have kept me going. Kept me keeping it sane all this time. I do enjoy myself when I am with them or any of my friends I've made here over the years.
It does sadden me when I see them play less and less every time an update comes out. All for the same reasons I've stated about the excessive grinding.
The bold promises that never really were fulfilled.(i.e. making fleet bases easier for small fleets) Now we are not a small fleet but we aren't any where near max either. Even we struggled for so long.
I've played with the rep system with the 3hrs that I can be on for in between managing base assets and holdings. They never really addressed them the way they promised. They just bandaided them.
Another reason I keep playing is that I love Star Trek and I love my ships and I put so much time and effort into it that it would be a waste to throw all this away.
Now I've defended the lock boxes, the Dil Grinding, even the Rep system for the most part.
However they made the anniversary a grind now. There is not one thing in the game anymore that is a thankyou for our support for keeping the game alive.
I'm sorry if you think that " I want them to cater to me". For that is not what I want. I just want the game to be more fun for people. We keep asking for a ground revamp and what we got was crossfire which all it added was a shooter mode. Which was okay but not what we wanted. I know I've been around that long. Still I gave them the benefit of the doubt on it.
I put this thread up to give people something to think about. I'd like to see featured episodes like we used to every season. 4 to 5 new missions that came with it. Not 1 and then a bunch of grinding content.
I not once said I hate change. As a matter of fact I LIKE CHANGE. Change brings progress. Change brings hope! If they do something with this new ESD look that is a functional asset to game play then I am all for it. I'd even say the look is great for a tourist who is between ESD and Earth. It doesnt feel like a starfleet facility. It looks like somewhere a diplomat would go to see the space dock. It doesnt feel like a place a starship captain let alone their crew should be.
Look maybe I'm wrong. I guess maybe if I was in space a long time that would be a good place to go and relax. The lounge is small compared to Club 47 and I know that will be addressed in a future update.
I will conclude with I just needed to get this out of my system. However my feelings stand as they are. I am a human being who has the right to voice their opinion without subjugation by anyone else. Kinda the fun of Star Trek to begin with.
I just want to thank Eradicator again for the most profound and yet simple solution. I've had time to sleep and relax since last night. I do appreciate everyone commenting too. As all points of view are valid expressions of everyone here.
I know some people troll looking for stuff like this. I'm may not be smart enough to not say anything but then again change rarely happens if you are silent.
Wish you all the best and maybe get a chance to chat with me sometime in game. I might just surprise you.
Club 47 that's your tipping point? Club 47 was the 2nd most useless space in ESD ( next too the upper mezzanine level.) Seriously if your this worked up over the loss of Club 47... put a dance floor in your Starbase, close your eyes and relive those disco days.
Seriously??? graphics are worst 1000 times than before. All the definition of the ships is lost, unless you deactivate the postprocessing and then, the colors and illumination sucks. This is another terrible mistake cryptic did, and i cant believe you think the graphics are better now lol. :eek:
some people are suffering graphic glitches, including one that crashes to desktop (getting fixed tomorrow), and yet not everyone is affected by all this
where have you been?
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
The new apperal is restricted to locations and my Rep system is broken! It was broken when they made it a massive grind to begin with but this is just unacceptable. I've been a part of this commuity for 4 years now. I paid monthly for 3yrs and have only been a lifetime for 1yr. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. Trust me...how many $50 packs have I bought...plus the legacy of romulus pack to boot!
I'm tired. I work all day. To come into the game to work some more is just getting to be too much for me. Keeping my fleet going is work, keeping my characters even marginally going is too much work.
I'm sorry but I have a life and as a paying member for so long this is inexcusable.
I didnt get on tribble because I didnt want to be disappointed. I guess I should have done that first so I wasnt so excited for it today.
You have failed me Dev team. I've stood up for you. I have not bashed you in these forums ever. As a matter of fact I have pointed out the stuff Atari and PW have had an impact on.
I'm tired of throwing money at you for stupid TRIBBLE that is useless when I've given you an absurd amount to begin with. WHY AM I PAYING TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At Least when I work I get PAID! YOU ARE NOT PAYING ME FOR THIS GARBAGE! THE REWARDS ARE NOT WORTH THE EFFORT!!!
You slip up one more time and I am done. I will bash this game. I will make sure no one joins it. I dont want my friends or family giving you the time of day. I woudlnt let my DOG give you the time of day and he greets everyone!
I hope your read this I really do. I've been so supportive over the years. I just cant take it anymore. The lies and stupidity have just pushed me over the edge.
Oh and enjoy my money cause you are not getting another cent from me until things change. I hope there are other players who pay into the system that join me on this.
I am not buying another key ever! I am not buying another ship EVER!
Okay seriously I love the new base!!! Love the new standard npc uniforms!! Its the same one I have been wearing for a while now!!
I've been a part of this game from day one! I have paid a recurring 6 months sub for 1100 plus days and only been free once I found out no more vet rewards. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. "20 uniform slots, 28 Bo slots on just one toon! Galaxy X, Oddy X3 and just about every other ship, interior "including the TOS and Defient", every fed uniform, & bank slots! Trust me... I did my bid for king and country!
I work my own business of 13 years! Wife just got her PT degree. I work over 60 hours a week and with facebook/social media I am never closed! 3 kids and a sore knee! I get on this game because I enjoy it!! Would I like to see some changes! I would like to see more content on the bridge. I would like to see more featured episodes. I would like to see more seasonal fun fun!! I want them to kill sector space. I WANT ROCKPORT SANDALS!!! for my toon.
That all said I love this game. I am happy with what they have done.
I agree with the OP. There are too many pointless changes being made. I wanna see game expanding mechanics...not Starbase shopping malls. The old ESD was functional and effective.
I am fine with bug fixes. I am fine with story content. I am fine with new PVE. However...pointless apace shopping malls do nothing to improve the game. It was a waste of time.
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I agree with the OP. There are too many pointless changes being made. I wanna see game expanding mechanics...not Starbase shopping malls. The old ESD was functional and effective.
I am fine with bug fixes. I am fine with story content. I am fine with new PVE. However...pointless apace shopping malls do nothing to improve the game. It was a waste of time.
You're kidding, right? The change to ESD was a breath of fresh air. So what if it looks like a mall? Do you realize how tedious it was to run from one side of the dock to the next just so I can drop off a few Borg parts? Or to swap ships?
This new one is more compact, easier to find things and a lot more eye pleasing than the old one.
Okay seriously. ITS A SHOPPING MALL! Yeah it looks pretty but WHERE IS THE FUNCTIONALITY! Its supposed to be harbor not a tourist way station! I'm tired of useless content here too.
Everything's relative:
Shopping mall owner: "Damnit, Jim, you made our mall look like ESD!" :P
Seriously, though, it's beautiful, and eminently more functional than the old one.
As for allegedly 'useless' content, it's called 'ambiance,' and I love it! i want pretty bridges, pretty space stations, my own quarters one day (maybe?), pretty clothes, pretty ships, etc. And then there's ppl like you, who only care about stats. And to that I can only say: it's a good thing this game isn't run by you.
I agree with the OP. There are too many pointless changes being made. I wanna see game expanding mechanics...not Starbase shopping malls. The old ESD was functional and effective.
I am fine with bug fixes. I am fine with story content. I am fine with new PVE. However...pointless apace shopping malls do nothing to improve the game. It was a waste of time.
It may be pointless to you, but to other players, it's not pointless at all...
The old ESD wasn't functional nor was it effective. The new one is basically just one room with everything inside it. The old ESD had several rooms including one that was its one instance. That doesn't make it effective or functional.
im un happy with reputation changes ty it we wont have any reason to play reputation anymore they turned all our play time to waste and for what to make few ppl and their alts happy?
Club 47 was not a big angle to me. I did point out ground combat in the last post and other functions as well in the previous post.
There is more in those posts. I know. I read them again and again just make sure they werent complete lunacy. Though I will admit that I was ranting more than pointing things out.
Now once again about ESD. I think it is a pretty thing. But most things are not much closer or any easier to get to. If you understood the original design you shoot straight through the center and get to any point just as fast as any other point.
The shipyard is the only exception to the rule. However if you were here for launch the ship yard was not a separate map. It actually was just a set of opening doors that led into the room that was the ship yard. The change to a separate map came in season 3 I believe.
Once again though it just doesnt FEEL like a starbase for a military facility. I know Starfleet isnt supposed to be a true military but they have rules and regulations that mimick one OH SO CLOSE.
All I'm saying is there was a better way to fix it than making it look like a mall and the shipyard looking like a bunch of use car salesman or a bunch of flight attendants waiting to get your tickets.
You could have put them at separate stations making it look like they were "guiding" ships into the dock. Much more reasonable and adds to the ambiance of what a starbase should be. You know...almost like Quo'nos has.
Just some ideas. I mean the game is supposed to FEEL like we are in Starfleet right? Not some intergalactic shopping mall?
Now this isnt a compete rant on that. But all the other things that have needed fixed or were promised to be fixed(i.e. starbase projects for small fleets, Rep system, and ground combat) got overlooked again. In order to make things easier on smaller fleets they added another holding. so if you want to be easier you still have to work just as hard and as much?
Yep the math plays out for the most part. If you complete the Dil mine you save a few mil Dil and about 200mil I believe in EC with the Embassy provisions store. from the T4 and T5 projects and upgrades. So it does help a little. Being vague as how helpful things are is just setting people up for disappointment instead of letting them prepare. Once again it was a small relief to small fleets, a fair amount for medium fleets(like mine who were at T4 when they launched the mine. So we're not seeing any benefit from the mine except lower vendor costs which we knew would be the case so not mad), and an even easier time for Large fleets.
I have nothing against large fleets. Most of them have been around since launch and have supported this game and I give them great kudos for all their work and effort. Its just that the small fleets did not get what was promised them.
I could go on with more but I'm just trying to give you the opportunity to understand my point of view.
Honestly though ground combat has been my biggest hang up for the last 4 yrs. Just never said anything about it because the other parts kept be entertained.
And if you can juggle family, business, and the game...I am seriously happy for you. If there is some secret to what you do please share it cause I'd like to know. I would like to see them put in services that I can spend zen on to make my Reputation grind easier. Like bonus cordical nodes or Marks or Dilithium or any other rep thing needed. I'd throw money at that stuff if it helped me get back into the game a little quicker.
Also a lot of you keep saying stuff that makes the me sound like I want them to cater to me and I dont but I wish we as the playing community sometimes had more input into these things though. Like when they did the contest for the odyssey. The community got a lot of input. Now they just dont care about us and some of you have just out right gone into insulting me when I have not done any such thing to you. "Mercy is the mark of a great man." Well to be fair maybe I'm just alright. Just remember that sniping at me doesn't help validate your points.
To those of you understanding where I am going thank you. I know you don't agree with me but at least you understand. Understanding is the first step towards cooperation.
Once again though. Was that not the message of Star Trek to begin with. Moving towards understanding and cooperation even though people dont agree.
I do thank all of you for posting your points of view.
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*Signed an Open Beta LTS 'Veteren', who still is not negatively affected by this game, at all
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
However, the adventure zones are improving even if they don't seem to have any real connection to the rest of the game than through the rep system and the storyline. I liked the new voth battlezone ground gameplay, and I have to admit it that it made ground fighting exciting again.
I think you need to just take a few deep breaths and sit this one out for a while if it makes you that upset. There's no point in getting upset at a development team that is content with the status quo-1 new adventure zone, reputation, and FE every season.
Doesn't matter if you pay $10,000, the devs are not required to cater to you. If you think the money you've paid is some kind of investment, I'm afraid you were bound to be disappointed at some point.
You are well within your rights to stop paying and stop playing because you disagree with the direction of the game. You are welcome to voice your opinions. Please do not go around actively ruining the fun for those of us who still like the game, and for those new players who may like the game.
And btw, its your fault to waste so much money in this game, seriously.. cryptic is not forcing you to do it. And they are not "rewarding" the players since well, almost years ago. I will NEVER waste real money on this game. With the exception of my first 2-3 months playing, after that, i realized how things were going and of course i didnt want to give cryptic more money. Its stupid.
Do you feel better now that it's out of your system?
Thank god. Hope is on the horizon.
A very good question; if you aren't enjoying yourself, why don't you just stop playing?
Good as really.
R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy
I was too distracted by running the revamped Borg-Undine arc.
Impressive!
And the new graphics rock. I can push the settings on max, and it both looks better and runs faster.
Oh, were you upset about something in particular? I couldn't manage to find a point while I was sifting thru that post.
Fleet Admiral Space Orphidian Possiblities Wizard
Sometimes the posts right after a season release are more entertaining than the game could ever hope to be.
That isn't an insult to Cryptic.
That's a compliment to the forum posters ability to make me lol.
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However to me my points are still valid and I know a lot of other players that feel the same. Most players who are upset or just disappointed just dont say anything. I just chose to do so this time.
It does feel a lot like work. You cant deny that. However the best part of this game is my fleet mates. They are some of the most loyal and best friends a guy could ask for!
They are what have kept me going. Kept me keeping it sane all this time. I do enjoy myself when I am with them or any of my friends I've made here over the years.
It does sadden me when I see them play less and less every time an update comes out. All for the same reasons I've stated about the excessive grinding.
The bold promises that never really were fulfilled.(i.e. making fleet bases easier for small fleets) Now we are not a small fleet but we aren't any where near max either. Even we struggled for so long.
I've played with the rep system with the 3hrs that I can be on for in between managing base assets and holdings. They never really addressed them the way they promised. They just bandaided them.
Another reason I keep playing is that I love Star Trek and I love my ships and I put so much time and effort into it that it would be a waste to throw all this away.
Now I've defended the lock boxes, the Dil Grinding, even the Rep system for the most part.
However they made the anniversary a grind now. There is not one thing in the game anymore that is a thankyou for our support for keeping the game alive.
I'm sorry if you think that " I want them to cater to me". For that is not what I want. I just want the game to be more fun for people. We keep asking for a ground revamp and what we got was crossfire which all it added was a shooter mode. Which was okay but not what we wanted. I know I've been around that long. Still I gave them the benefit of the doubt on it.
I put this thread up to give people something to think about. I'd like to see featured episodes like we used to every season. 4 to 5 new missions that came with it. Not 1 and then a bunch of grinding content.
I not once said I hate change. As a matter of fact I LIKE CHANGE. Change brings progress. Change brings hope! If they do something with this new ESD look that is a functional asset to game play then I am all for it. I'd even say the look is great for a tourist who is between ESD and Earth. It doesnt feel like a starfleet facility. It looks like somewhere a diplomat would go to see the space dock. It doesnt feel like a place a starship captain let alone their crew should be.
Look maybe I'm wrong. I guess maybe if I was in space a long time that would be a good place to go and relax. The lounge is small compared to Club 47 and I know that will be addressed in a future update.
I will conclude with I just needed to get this out of my system. However my feelings stand as they are. I am a human being who has the right to voice their opinion without subjugation by anyone else. Kinda the fun of Star Trek to begin with.
I just want to thank Eradicator again for the most profound and yet simple solution. I've had time to sleep and relax since last night. I do appreciate everyone commenting too. As all points of view are valid expressions of everyone here.
I know some people troll looking for stuff like this. I'm may not be smart enough to not say anything but then again change rarely happens if you are silent.
Wish you all the best and maybe get a chance to chat with me sometime in game. I might just surprise you.
Seriously??? graphics are worst 1000 times than before. All the definition of the ships is lost, unless you deactivate the postprocessing and then, the colors and illumination sucks. This is another terrible mistake cryptic did, and i cant believe you think the graphics are better now lol. :eek:
The kit revamp, I feel, is nicely done and I look forward to seeing it expand.
However, there are also one or two things I find frustrating and one thing (those wretched bioships in lockboxes) that has me spitting feathers.
So, in other words, par for the course.
I seriously doubt that few can honestly say that they love everything in a given new season.
And, if people are honest, in every season there will usually be something we like.
There will be things we personally appreciate and things we personally find incomprehensible.
While, of course, I wish cryptic would just run these things by me before making silly decisions, I do recognise the impracticalities of things.
A lot of work went into this episode and the new system changes. I do give them props on that.
have they just not fixed Mac Client yet?
Club 47 that's your tipping point? Club 47 was the 2nd most useless space in ESD ( next too the upper mezzanine level.) Seriously if your this worked up over the loss of Club 47... put a dance floor in your Starbase, close your eyes and relive those disco days.
where have you been?
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Okay seriously I love the new base!!! Love the new standard npc uniforms!! Its the same one I have been wearing for a while now!!
I've been a part of this game from day one! I have paid a recurring 6 months sub for 1100 plus days and only been free once I found out no more vet rewards. Not to mention all the cash I have plugged into the Cstore/zen store over the years. "20 uniform slots, 28 Bo slots on just one toon! Galaxy X, Oddy X3 and just about every other ship, interior "including the TOS and Defient", every fed uniform, & bank slots! Trust me... I did my bid for king and country!
I work my own business of 13 years! Wife just got her PT degree. I work over 60 hours a week and with facebook/social media I am never closed! 3 kids and a sore knee! I get on this game because I enjoy it!! Would I like to see some changes! I would like to see more content on the bridge. I would like to see more featured episodes. I would like to see more seasonal fun fun!! I want them to kill sector space. I WANT ROCKPORT SANDALS!!! for my toon.
That all said I love this game. I am happy with what they have done.
I am fine with bug fixes. I am fine with story content. I am fine with new PVE. However...pointless apace shopping malls do nothing to improve the game. It was a waste of time.
You're kidding, right? The change to ESD was a breath of fresh air. So what if it looks like a mall? Do you realize how tedious it was to run from one side of the dock to the next just so I can drop off a few Borg parts? Or to swap ships?
This new one is more compact, easier to find things and a lot more eye pleasing than the old one.
Everything's relative:
Shopping mall owner: "Damnit, Jim, you made our mall look like ESD!" :P
Seriously, though, it's beautiful, and eminently more functional than the old one.
As for allegedly 'useless' content, it's called 'ambiance,' and I love it!
The old ESD wasn't functional nor was it effective. The new one is basically just one room with everything inside it. The old ESD had several rooms including one that was its one instance. That doesn't make it effective or functional.
There is more in those posts. I know. I read them again and again just make sure they werent complete lunacy. Though I will admit that I was ranting more than pointing things out.
Now once again about ESD. I think it is a pretty thing. But most things are not much closer or any easier to get to. If you understood the original design you shoot straight through the center and get to any point just as fast as any other point.
The shipyard is the only exception to the rule. However if you were here for launch the ship yard was not a separate map. It actually was just a set of opening doors that led into the room that was the ship yard. The change to a separate map came in season 3 I believe.
Once again though it just doesnt FEEL like a starbase for a military facility. I know Starfleet isnt supposed to be a true military but they have rules and regulations that mimick one OH SO CLOSE.
All I'm saying is there was a better way to fix it than making it look like a mall and the shipyard looking like a bunch of use car salesman or a bunch of flight attendants waiting to get your tickets.
You could have put them at separate stations making it look like they were "guiding" ships into the dock. Much more reasonable and adds to the ambiance of what a starbase should be. You know...almost like Quo'nos has.
Just some ideas. I mean the game is supposed to FEEL like we are in Starfleet right? Not some intergalactic shopping mall?
Now this isnt a compete rant on that. But all the other things that have needed fixed or were promised to be fixed(i.e. starbase projects for small fleets, Rep system, and ground combat) got overlooked again. In order to make things easier on smaller fleets they added another holding. so if you want to be easier you still have to work just as hard and as much?
Yep the math plays out for the most part. If you complete the Dil mine you save a few mil Dil and about 200mil I believe in EC with the Embassy provisions store. from the T4 and T5 projects and upgrades. So it does help a little. Being vague as how helpful things are is just setting people up for disappointment instead of letting them prepare. Once again it was a small relief to small fleets, a fair amount for medium fleets(like mine who were at T4 when they launched the mine. So we're not seeing any benefit from the mine except lower vendor costs which we knew would be the case so not mad), and an even easier time for Large fleets.
I have nothing against large fleets. Most of them have been around since launch and have supported this game and I give them great kudos for all their work and effort. Its just that the small fleets did not get what was promised them.
I could go on with more but I'm just trying to give you the opportunity to understand my point of view.
Honestly though ground combat has been my biggest hang up for the last 4 yrs. Just never said anything about it because the other parts kept be entertained.
And if you can juggle family, business, and the game...I am seriously happy for you. If there is some secret to what you do please share it cause I'd like to know. I would like to see them put in services that I can spend zen on to make my Reputation grind easier. Like bonus cordical nodes or Marks or Dilithium or any other rep thing needed. I'd throw money at that stuff if it helped me get back into the game a little quicker.
Also a lot of you keep saying stuff that makes the me sound like I want them to cater to me and I dont but I wish we as the playing community sometimes had more input into these things though. Like when they did the contest for the odyssey. The community got a lot of input. Now they just dont care about us and some of you have just out right gone into insulting me when I have not done any such thing to you. "Mercy is the mark of a great man." Well to be fair maybe I'm just alright. Just remember that sniping at me doesn't help validate your points.
To those of you understanding where I am going thank you. I know you don't agree with me but at least you understand. Understanding is the first step towards cooperation.
Once again though. Was that not the message of Star Trek to begin with. Moving towards understanding and cooperation even though people dont agree.
I do thank all of you for posting your points of view.