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deokkent
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What do you guys think? Success? Failure? Death of pvp as we know it lol. :P
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You can tell this after a few hours? You tried queuing with a full team and it didn't pop? For how long?
I sure hope the premades aren't all so cowardly that they no longer queue at all for fear of facing another premade. That would be really sad. Then again, maybe people are just working on the new rep grind.
I'll see how it goes later tonight when I log on.
@DevolvedOne
Has nothing to do with folks...oh...I don't know...doing other stuff - kind of like what happens to the queues at the start of every season?
I thought all you guys would q as teams for the challenge. Now you all have your chance against other teams.
Gee maybe it wasn't really about the challenge after all and more about pug stomping.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
well look like ur a pug stomper
i did premade all the day with my KDF fleet and it was realy fun ! finaly we have it after 2 year of waiting !!!
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@DevolvedOne
Also I know my build kinda, probably blows.. and I'm at the impasse of "I don't know if I can make a good build any more"..
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
It wasn't really "Balanced" in more that it still felt like a Pugmade rofflestomp.
I don't try to build a perfect build, the builds I try to make are usually ones I try to have fun with, but lately I'm not even sure I could hazard traveling back into my Carrier builds that are sitting in moth balls. And I used to love my Carrier (I mean the ORIGNAL Carrier, the Vor'quv, not the Lockbox stuffs, or other things that pretend to be called a carrier)
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I said this would happen. Some teams or fleets are going to do what ever it takes to win. This is one of the reason I said solo queuing would not fix PvP. PvP need a lot more attention than making a new queue. Leaver and afk penalties. There are other things also like penalties for logging out. Even the dilithium grinder kill me and never respawn. People wanted to stop pug stomping. This did not fix it. Premades/fleetmades form to prevent this type of play from happening on there team.
I hope Sheldon's experience is the exception, but cowards are cowards, and you should be able to beat such cowards in a 5v4 or 4v3 or w/e it was since you have your own team instead of random pugs. I mean seriously, how bad do you have to suck to have to have to cheat and fight an imbalanced match? I'm thinking really really bad! But hopefully it was not intentionally set up like that and that dude just randomly ran into his own fleet in the queue and was a pu$$y about it and didn't want to fight them.
@DevolvedOne
I think this change will only help to start a match quickly...
It will not improve pvp neither promote pvp. The actual idea of pvp implemented in sto is too limited since it's only a challenge between 2 teams of 5 players and moreover without nice rewards (except dilithium if you have the daily missions).
I think also that a lot of fed pug will stop playing pvp since my experience as pug player (both kdf and fed) teach me that the averrage kdf pug is much better than the averrage fed pug.
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
For example, you see Minimax, you know he's Vape/Alpha strike build.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
seems to be some issues with team restriction though, or lack there of. right now, the duo que is only enforced by the honor system lol
other then that, you still cant cross faction team, the team ques will never reach their potential without this. maybe they need to make a new type of teaming, a 'pvp teaming', that can only access pvp content, and locks all pve content to anyone in the team. cross faction teams in any pve story missions and half the qued pve would probably break things, there needs to be a workaround like this.
Yeah they were definitely the same group. It was a very specific kind of fleet. Still, not a terrible match. If my team had been just a little stronger we would have won. Maybe even not just a man down.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
Also is it my imagination or does it seem like there's less spam being used? Makes me wonder how many premades were built specifically for it.
Yes well, lets be honest, the main reason a lot of premades were even doing PvP was to stomp pugs for fun. The idea they'll actually have a challenge must send a chill down their spine.
Unless there's an incredibly unlucky match up, no more 2 Recluses, 2 Wells and a JHAS... Unlike prior to the queue change where almost every other match had a pug pitted against that sort of team.
No wonder the queues are so much more fun now.
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ahah no really, until now i have seen good matches and the pop was more frequent than usual
There is no 1vs1 or 2vs2 queue.