just a though now the door has been blown off on the dyson sphere by the undine surely now the borg would know of its exsistance and would now launch a invasion i mean they have transwarp hubs everywhere and with the door open they would pick up omega signals
No offense to your idea but I'm sick of borg. If I never see another borg in this game it'll be too soon. There's plenty of other races to deal with in the game. I'm content to deal with the undine for a bit, then move on to the dominion or something else. I'm borged out.
Yeah, the Bog unfortunately were overused in STO pretty much from the start. I'm still fine with blowing up their ships, but I hate ground combat against them. Remodulation is annoying !
Could happen, but I imagine at this point everyone is just sick of the damn Borg. Maybe if they revamp Borg space combat to make them more formidable, then maybe...
The things the Borg could do with a Dyson Sphere; it's frightening. Needless to say, it does make you wonder just how the Borg are not aware of such a structure if both the Voth and Undine are.
No doubt the Borg would have assimilated Federation, Klingon or Romulan members since 2409 too, and thus would have knowledge of the Spheres.
We need to fight the True Enemy of this game already, The Bajorans :cool:
Actually, it is the Tribbles. Tribbles use mind control in their plans to take over the galaxy. This is the reason why Klingons try to kill Tribbles wherever they are. Klingons are resistant to the effects of the Tribble's mind control and feel that such an attack is a cowardly tactic.
We need to fight the True Enemy of this game already, The Bajorans :cool:
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Could it be possible that with the amount of resources the Borg have sent against the Alpha and Beta quadrants, and presumably fighting the Undine/other species in the Delta quadrant, that they are a little tapped out at the moment, and may have to focus their efforts on assimilating weak species, and rebuilding?
No offense to your idea but I'm sick of borg. If I never see another borg in this game it'll be too soon. There's plenty of other races to deal with in the game. I'm content to deal with the undine for a bit, then move on to the dominion or something else. I'm borged out.
We need to fight the True Enemy of this game already, The Bajorans :cool:
Good idea...
Mhm I don't like the thought the idea of Borg in the Sphere.
By any logic... if the Borg assimilate the Dyson tech.... game is over. While "we" would take probably a century or more to really understand the technology there, the borg would instantly be able to utilize and re build anything there. They would instantly become far to powerful for it to be logical that we even have a hint of a chance against them.
just a though now the door has been blown off on the dyson sphere by the undine surely now the borg would know of its exsistance and would now launch a invasion i mean they have transwarp hubs everywhere and with the door open they would pick up omega signals
what do you guys think
The Borg have long overstayed their welcome, both as a civilization and as a game enemy. I would be perfectly happy if Cryptic declared that before the Undine hit the Jenolan sphere, they polished off what was left of the Collective in the Delta Quadrant as they had previously attempted.
We need to fight the True Enemy of this game already, The Bajorans :cool:
I'd say "TRIBBLE you, Dukat", but I don't want to catch anything. /in-character
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I find it difficult:
A) To avoid the fact that the borg must know about the spheres by now and thus would be involved one way or another.
and To avoid the fact that expanding into the delta quadrant (aka) the borgs doorstep would no doubt increase encounters one way or another.
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Going against the majority here... I love kicking the Borg on the ground especially.. give me more to smack.. or at least re-vamp Defera to something as awesome as ground Voth Battlezone, for my daily Borg smack... <.< >.>
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Also keep in mind that the Voth have survived in the Delta Quadrant up against the Borg for hundreds of thousands of years at minimum, and the Undine hand the Borg their asses every time they fight. It is entirely possible that the Borg just aren't getting close enough to matter.
Realistically, the Borg are the perfect enemy for Cryptic and STO, because with all the problems concerning pleasing CBS with the IP Canon, really they could create endless possibilities for new aliens/encounters because the Borg have undoubtedly assimilated many species that we've never seen in the game, or in the Star Trek shows/movies. I know people say they are sick of them, but it's really only because we have been fighting the same borg scenarios for several years now, and anything gets old after that much repitition.
I find it difficult:
A) To avoid the fact that the borg must know about the spheres by now and thus would be involved one way or another.
and To avoid the fact that expanding into the delta quadrant (aka) the borgs doorstep would no doubt increase encounters one way or another.
Wasn't there a thread a while back speculating about that big hole in the ground in the Voth space zone?
Seem to remember the consensus was that it was the wreckage of a Borg assault force taken down by the Voth.
Well, the Borg are after the Omega particles, too, aren't they? Maybe that's the next season - the Borg making an entrace in the Dyson Sphere?
I really like the Borg in theory. It#s not simply they are overused- i t's that they seem so weak.
It takes what - 10 seconds or so to for a Tier 5 Escort to kill a cube?
I really would have no problem if it would take 10 seconds to kill a Borg "Battleship". But that "Battleship" should not look like a cube, it should be a sphere or a probe or something like that. I can believe that the ALpha Quadrant races, after the advances of the Dominion War and the looming Borg threat, can deal with a cube or a tactical cube with a small fleet of ships. I have a problem with a single ship being able to handle a cube.
As long as Cryptic is not willing to fix this, the Borg will just not feel satisfying.
Story-Wise, if the Borg are supposed to feel like a menace, it's necessary to give them an actual victory. Have them assimilate the Jenolean Dyson Sphere, for example. Have them assimilate Undine on a large scale. Let them master the OMega technology.
Maybe there can then be a "counter-victory" - at high cost. We teleport another Dyson SPhere (maybe with Iconian help) full of Omega Particles in their main hub and blow it up, destroying subspace in a large part of Delta Quadrant, standing the Borg (and innocent races) there.
The majority of the collective would now be stuck at sublight speeds for the next centuries (or until they adapt), but there are still some "survivors" - enhanced by Omege Particles, much more powerful than ever before (A Borg "frigate" equivalent would now be an assimilated shuttle, a regular cruiser level enemy would be a probe, a battleship level enemy a sphere, a dreadnought level enemy a Cube, and a Tactical Cube or Diamond would be worthy of a fleet action, and the V'Ger type ships would require a battle zone).
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Reminds me of an idea I had:
A dyson shell. But with no star inside. Instead, it's interior contains the writings of an ancient culture. Build as an eternal archive.
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Could it be possible that with the amount of resources the Borg have sent against the Alpha and Beta quadrants, and presumably fighting the Undine/other species in the Delta quadrant, that they are a little tapped out at the moment, and may have to focus their efforts on assimilating weak species, and rebuilding?
Something like this...plus look at the facts...the Undine...their nemesis...well besides humanity that is are there. Plus you have the Voth, a very advanced species which we have little to no info about interactions between the two.
In the Sphere you have just about every advanced/menacing species to the Borg...might very well be easier for them to avoid the slaughter, not to mention it would be more beneficial to let all of their powerful opponents to duke it out and thin each others ranks.
With the help of voyager the Borg know how to destroy 8472/undine and with so many planets in the delta quadrent to assimulate the borg would build there number up quite easy so to say they are in weak state at this time is a mistake
Wouldn't the Borg just attack Earth or wherever anyway? Its not like they have ever needed to use them before to get at the Alpha Quadrant since they have a transwarp network.
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No doubt the Borg would have assimilated Federation, Klingon or Romulan members since 2409 too, and thus would have knowledge of the Spheres.
Actually, it is the Tribbles. Tribbles use mind control in their plans to take over the galaxy. This is the reason why Klingons try to kill Tribbles wherever they are. Klingons are resistant to the effects of the Tribble's mind control and feel that such an attack is a cowardly tactic.
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Deffinitly...
Good idea...
Mhm I don't like the thought the idea of Borg in the Sphere.
By any logic... if the Borg assimilate the Dyson tech.... game is over. While "we" would take probably a century or more to really understand the technology there, the borg would instantly be able to utilize and re build anything there. They would instantly become far to powerful for it to be logical that we even have a hint of a chance against them.
The Borg have long overstayed their welcome, both as a civilization and as a game enemy. I would be perfectly happy if Cryptic declared that before the Undine hit the Jenolan sphere, they polished off what was left of the Collective in the Delta Quadrant as they had previously attempted.
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A) To avoid the fact that the borg must know about the spheres by now and thus would be involved one way or another.
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In fact, the deeper we get into the Delta Quadrant, bigger are the chances to find more and more borgs. Since we are getting closer to their home..
I thought WoW's forums had angry elitist snobs, but I never could have imagined the level STO forums has.
Wasn't there a thread a while back speculating about that big hole in the ground in the Voth space zone?
Seem to remember the consensus was that it was the wreckage of a Borg assault force taken down by the Voth.
I really like the Borg in theory. It#s not simply they are overused- i t's that they seem so weak.
It takes what - 10 seconds or so to for a Tier 5 Escort to kill a cube?
I really would have no problem if it would take 10 seconds to kill a Borg "Battleship". But that "Battleship" should not look like a cube, it should be a sphere or a probe or something like that. I can believe that the ALpha Quadrant races, after the advances of the Dominion War and the looming Borg threat, can deal with a cube or a tactical cube with a small fleet of ships. I have a problem with a single ship being able to handle a cube.
As long as Cryptic is not willing to fix this, the Borg will just not feel satisfying.
Story-Wise, if the Borg are supposed to feel like a menace, it's necessary to give them an actual victory. Have them assimilate the Jenolean Dyson Sphere, for example. Have them assimilate Undine on a large scale. Let them master the OMega technology.
Maybe there can then be a "counter-victory" - at high cost. We teleport another Dyson SPhere (maybe with Iconian help) full of Omega Particles in their main hub and blow it up, destroying subspace in a large part of Delta Quadrant, standing the Borg (and innocent races) there.
The majority of the collective would now be stuck at sublight speeds for the next centuries (or until they adapt), but there are still some "survivors" - enhanced by Omege Particles, much more powerful than ever before (A Borg "frigate" equivalent would now be an assimilated shuttle, a regular cruiser level enemy would be a probe, a battleship level enemy a sphere, a dreadnought level enemy a Cube, and a Tactical Cube or Diamond would be worthy of a fleet action, and the V'Ger type ships would require a battle zone).
Reminds me of an idea I had:
A dyson shell. But with no star inside. Instead, it's interior contains the writings of an ancient culture. Build as an eternal archive.
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Something like this...plus look at the facts...the Undine...their nemesis...well besides humanity that is are there. Plus you have the Voth, a very advanced species which we have little to no info about interactions between the two.
In the Sphere you have just about every advanced/menacing species to the Borg...might very well be easier for them to avoid the slaughter, not to mention it would be more beneficial to let all of their powerful opponents to duke it out and thin each others ranks.
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