As I'm reading this "
upcoming content" page on the STO Wiki, I notice the following:
"Talaxians, Ocampa (FED) and Kazon (KDF) as new playable races."
Terrible idea. Read about the
Kazon (originally "Gazon"). It is about the crew essentially admitting that they did a poor job and failed at creating an interesting species. It is a shame because the name sounds powerful and they could have done a better job.
"The series' co-creators originally conceived of the Kazon as contemporary Los Angeles street gangs."
"Ultimately, Jeri Taylor decided to abandon development of the Kazon after the second season."
Going with the Klingon Empire theme, the new playable Delta quadrant species should be the
Hirogen. If you read about them, the article mentions and essentially implies that these were meant to be the Kazon they really wanted.
Suggestion: Hirogen.
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Maybe some visionary Hirogen, which want to build a new society and stop the endless hunt, want to join up with the Republic.
I think they fit together nicely.
And give the Feds Talaxians. They deserve them every bit.
1- That wiki entry isn't founded in the current reality of what's actually being done by the team. So that's all kind of a maybe. May or may not happen. Probably won't.
2- Don't diss the Kazon. Some of us (me) WANT to fly a Kazon ship. I mean the rest of you get your Elachi, Voth, Breen, Jem'Hadar and Ferengi ships. You get your Romulan Adapted JJ-Tech Narada style ships. You even get your Suliban Cell Ships for crying out loud. Let me have my dream of a Kazon Battle Cruiser dammit!
That is all.
Isn't it a battle carrier? Couldn't it launch a those shuttles?
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
But that never was played out or had any significant impact, if any at all..
Plus they looked like ******* that didn't even know how to use a shower...
On the other hand... looked.... I mean their version of a prison was a line drawn on the ground and hoping nobody steps over it... so may be we should replace that "looked" part in previous sentence "were"....
But before Voyager-bashing starts I want to remind people that TNG actually tried to portray the ferengie as a militarily threatening enemy in early TNG and failed a lot harder then even the dump Kazon...
But as a matter of fact, I wound want any of those races see even again.
Talaxians were.... just painful to watch.
Ocampa have to be extinct at that point by pretty much every possible logic.
And Kazon.... well... We half already half baked Klingons... as a faction. We don't need them as a playable race.
I'll take either.
And you know who would fly it for me?
Pakled captain! Hell yeah, this is a dream I want to happen!
You know in keeping with Trek lore you would have to get worked over by any tier 4 ship though. Janeway was able to handle 3 or so in her Intrepid class. Kazon inferior technology, huh!! :P
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Hey -- they get kudos for being able to reproduce with Cardassians. But then, so do Bajorans.
Okay, yeah. Kazon isn't gonna work.
I'd like to know why the sudden focus on Voyager. VOY didn't have a lot of well-developed alien species. And when they did, it was usually accompanied by reckless and irresponsible actions by the CPT and crew. VOY at its core is the very antithesis of Trek. Don't believe me? Look at the Voth battle zone. With ****ING DINOSAURS.
Sorry, but I'm okay with a few mentions of VOY stuff in game (like slipstream). But as plot points? HELLno.
Yes yes I know the borders have shifted some since the 2370s but to that doesn't give any excuse to have Delta Quadrant species showing up. The exception at the Borg only because they have shown they have the tech (transwarp) necessary to do what they damn well please, even if it is be highly inefficient about assimilating Sector 001. But that is a thread for another time.
As for Ocampa, they exist 70 years away and are a biological dead end and that is canon. So them in Star Fleet makes 0 sense.
As for Kazon. In a weird way I can see them fitting into the KDF. They seem to be a very warrior centric culture that takes honor and tradition seriously. On a switch of the general scene used as evidence for the Kazon's utter lack of brains, the "prison" ie line in the floor they are told not to cross could be that maybe the Kazon are honorable. Honorable enough that when caught they don't need a physical cell to hold them because their honor won't allow them to escape. Alternatively they might just be dumber than the Pakleds.
Only problem is they live 60 or so years away. Maybe 50. How can a race that doesn't even have their own ship technology (all their tech is stolen in their uprising against the Trabe) get to the Alpha Quadrant. It's not like they are nomads like the Hirogen who you could argue wandered en masse to the Beta Quadrant.
Please note that any reference to years means light years and assumes straight line travel and max warp.
It's 2409. The Kazon, and much of the Delta quadrant, have been on the rise technologically to deal with life after the events of Voyager.
I think they did a survey or something and it turned out most people wanted more Delta Quadrant stuff. Since Voyager is the only canon source of Delta Quadrant information...
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Uh, the Dyson Sphere storyline pretty much gives us carte blanche to pop into the DQ (dairy queen AND delta quadrant) whenever we feel.
But as we've seen with the Worf Episode, the Tuvok episode (and are about to see with the next installment with the Season 9 Undine episode) ... the Spires and Dyson jibba jabba have opened up pretty much any place they want. Including much of the Delta Quadrant.
Cardassian - clearly the next best 'cool', infact I would go so far as saying 'super cool'. So many opportunities. Cryptic this is my wallet. Take my money.
Hirogen - Next 'interesting opportunity', perhaps having access to an ancient starbase somewherein the Delta Quadrant, having been built by the same race as the communications arrays.
Borg (Hugh-like breakaway group) - Hard to justify as an 'aligned group' given we're fighting borg daily and the borg are returning. But hey, we have Voth bridge officers.
Dominion - Play as a Vorta, Free Jem'Hadar or even a Founder.
Actual TNG Borg are primarily interested in assimilating technology not Races. So.... they would be even less interested. They ignore everything that isn't a threat.
Well Iconian gateways!
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The Kazon have literally been on the "upcoming content" list for years now, don't waste your time on it.;)
I guess that makes sense.
What pisses me off is that there isn't much in the Delta Quadrant. Yeah, there was the new-alien-of-the-week. And the WAY late, potentially compelling story of the rights of photonic lifeforms (which, I might add, was an obvious rehash of Measure of A Man). I guess the love story between a Klingon Maquis and a Human Starfleet reject-turned-reformed officer could be used in game. Except that there is NO romance in STO. Uhm...there's the Borg, but VOY pussified them. Then there was Species 8472, but they were pussified later on, too. There was the antagonism and back and forth between Neelix and Tuvok (though I didn't notice it until that one episode where numbnuts confronts pointy).
Aside from a few cosmetic species and some technology, VOY doesn't have much to offer STO.
Unless you wanna do a mission where the CPT devolves and has alien babies that are spontaneously forgotten about...yeah, good luck with that one.
Kazon ships shoved into a lockbox someday: Eh, sure. They're kind of neat looking.
Hey, now.
Picardo. Picardo and Ryan carried that show.
They are like the Inbred trailer park trash of the Star Trek universe.
I don't know if I am horrified, or amused about this.
That particular love story plays a key part in early STO missions, specifically the Klingon arc and Miral Paris herself.
By then a very large quotient of Roman influence is that of Judaism.
The Kazon likewise overthrew their oppressors and conquered their established lands and technology before beginning tribal warfare among the stars.
Ummmm.... it's been a while since I've seen Voyager... don't they only live 7 years?
Assuming Starfleet Academy is like college / university, wouldn't it take 4 years to graduate? Or 3 years for JJ's version of Kirk?
Assuming the Ocampa are mature enough to attend SFA on their 1st birthday, they would graduate on their 5th birthday. Thus leaving only 2 years left on their natural lifespan.
I dunno about you guys, but I think it is a waste of time and resources to train for 4 years only to serve for 2 years.