Something that had been bothering me since "A Step Between Stars" is that, if the Solanae and Jenolan Dyson Spheres have such similar capabilities (creating Omega molecules to teleport themselves across space), why do they look so different?
Today I realized a very plausible answer: The Jenolan sphere was built by the
Tkon Empire.
Some details about the Tkon:
- They had a population numbering in the trillions. Such a population could easily fit inside a Dyson Sphere.
- They could transport entire star systems across space. Sound familiar?
- Their empire collapsed after their homeworld's sun went supernova. Such an advanced race would probably be able to recover from such a loss ... unless the vast majority of their population was concentrated in that one system.
My theory is that the Jenolan Sphere was a Tkon outpost that was abandoned due to the instability of its sun, and forgotten following the destruction of their homeworld 600,000 years ago. 400,000 years later, the Solanae found it. They couldn't use the sphere due to the unstable star, but they studied it and learned how to build their own, complete with the Omega-generation and jump technology.
This would explain the similarities and differences the two spheres have.
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We have? I must have missed it.
I think that's a joke.
Not sure what you mean by "bad pickle", but whatever.
(Does the title sound too braggy? If so, I'll change it.)
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the theory about the Jenolan Sphere being built by the Tkon Empire has existed before STO did. :P
Oh.
Wow, this is awkward.
Um ... bye!
*runs away from thread*
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Get back here, we haven't finished mocking you.
I'd love for the Tkon to be part of the Iconion storyline.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
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*sighs* Fine. Make it quick.
Likewise. It does make sense, doesn't it?
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Now you may go :cool:.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Easy, easy...one man's "duuur, that's obvious" is another's flash of genius.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
So why was it you wrote this thread ?
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I had what seemed like a brilliant idea at the time, and felt an overpowering urge to share it with the world. How was I supposed to know it was already common knowledge?
You mean there's a novel about it too? Jeez, I'm never going to live this down ...
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Not everyone has seen that episode of TNG. :P
It's alright, the party is still open no matter how late you are.
As far as I recall in the Q Trilogy, the Tkon Empire did not have a Dyson Sphere for their homeworld. Their sun was dying so the were using advanced teleporter technology to replace their dying sun with a healthy sun. However, right when they were teleporting the sun, 0 in a **** move destroyed their homeworld because he doesn't like losing. Q might like to mess with mortals, but at least he plays fair and I think he is actually amused when he loses to mortals.
That is disgusting, even by my standards..